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  1. #1

    Default I Hate Shorties 600NL

    Dude is 17/15/6 with 12% raise UTG. C-bets 68/33/40, fold to flop raise 4/15 and turn 3/3. Call pre is kinda questionable but there's a huge fish in the BB. Call turn and river, fold turn, shove turn, or call and fold? $140 left after he bets.


    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $6.00 BB (8 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    saw flop

    Button ($965.35)
    SB ($600)
    BB ($737.40)
    UTG ($240)
    UTG+1 ($734.45)
    MP1 ($621.95)
    MP2 ($679.80)
    Hero (CO) ($757.80)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with Q, J
    UTG bets $18, 3 folds, Hero calls $18, 3 folds

    Flop: ($45) Q, 2, 7 (2 players)
    UTG bets $28.65, Hero calls $28.65

    Turn: ($102.30) 5 (2 players)
    UTG bets $54, Hero
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    Is it kinda obvious to say fold pre?

    As played the only hand youre beating is AKs hearts or clubs such a tiny fraction of his range IMO
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    C-bets 68/33/40
    he doesnt Open enough weaker Qx UTG, doesnt barrel TT, and i dont think barrels draws enough on the turn to justify continuing.
    becomes tougher when he barrels like 70-50-60 which a lot of shorties do, always get lost in these turn spots vs them given SPR
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    If we jam now we need him to fold 23% to b/e if his b/c range is QQ+,AcKc,AhKh,AQs,AcJc,AhJh,AcTc,AhTh,KQs,AQo.
    It really depends on what you think he's barreling this spot with and how often he'll fold to a jam and how he views your flatting range cause if he thinks you're the type to flat QQ+ here then it's a pretty easy fold.
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    i dont think we can jam, he has 1 psb left so he isnt going anywhere and jamming w/o FE is bad here. also we cant call and fold river and the only river we'd kinda like is Q/J w/o hearts/clubs so i think the best is fold turn.
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    I don't think calling a shorties (reg?) raise from utg with queen high because there is a donk in the BB is enough justification.

    As played, flop is a call and turn is a fold.
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    i think you can pretty comfortably call and fold the river here, for the odds he's giving you
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