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3b Pot Nitty Indecision

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  1. #1

    Default 3b Pot Nitty Indecision

    Both villain are on the laggier side of 28/20/7 pre, no close reads post.


    Is wondering about this a waste of time?

    ***** Hand History for Game 2445836855 ***** (PKR)
    $100.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Friday, October 25, 09:17:21 ET 2013
    Table Fortasse (Real Money)
    Seat 4 is the button
    Seat 1: Bobesz122 ( $135.00 USD )
    Seat 2: Genitruc ( $135.01 USD )
    Seat 3: caspran ( $173.96 USD )
    Seat 4: DuffBeer4Me ( $176.05 USD )
    Seat 5: DOUHAVEADOLLAR ( $100.50 USD )
    Seat 6: Sinology ( $100.00 USD )
    DOUHAVEADOLLAR posts small blind [$0.50 USD].
    Sinology posts big blind [$1.00 USD].
    Dealt to Genitruc
    Bobesz122 folds
    Genitruc raises [$3.00 USD]
    caspran calls [$3.00 USD]
    DuffBeer4Me raises [$12.00 USD]
    DOUHAVEADOLLAR folds
    Sinology folds
    Genitruc calls [$9.00 USD]
    caspran calls [$9.00 USD]
    ** Dealing Flop **
    Genitruc checks
    caspran checks
    DuffBeer4Me checks
    ** Dealing Turn **
    Genitruc bets [$28.12 USD]
    caspran calls [$28.12 USD]
    DuffBeer4Me folds
    ** Dealing River **
    Genitruc
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
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    He's pretty slow play heavy here and has no reason to pay you off light on this board at all. I'd check and call a small bet. Pre seems marginal.


  3. #3
    I don't get it? Seems like an easy bet re-evaluate and fold to a jam.
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    Quote Originally Posted by griffey24 View Post
    I don't get it? Seems like an easy bet re-evaluate and fold to a jam.
    What exactly are you calling that huge turn bet with, not closing action even?


  5. #5
    Since when is 3/4 pot huge exactly?

    Caspran closed the action pre, so his range is the widest of everyone's. Given flop checked through, he's probably calling all KQ (12)/KJ (12)/KT (2 - suited)/9T (2 - suited) that we beat and if he's a lagg who knows what other nonsense pairs JT or stuff is not even impossible. He's calling 99 (3)/TT (3) that we don't, but if he's so laggy he could even raise turn. He could be calling his QJ (4) or raising some. He's probably raising flushes given he beats QJ.

    On the river we beat 28 combos, and lose to 10 combos (feel like the times he raises some of the 99/TT/QJ cancels out the times he flats worse flushes on turn). Even if he folds 60% of this non set/straight/flush hands it's still a trivially easy bet. Especially if we bet half pot or something not huge.

    Nitty indecision is right imo
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  6. #6
    I think you should bet like 1/5th pot and fold to a raise honestly. This is 100nl though and people could be stupid but to call this bet with all the plausible one pairs in his range seems like god awful stationing. It also seems very implausible with any hand that would be two pair here that he'd play it that way. Versus a good aggressive player id check but vs 100nl reg id def bet because you're winning so often.
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    I think pre is a really bad call and I'd small bet fold as well.
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    i call pre if the guy behind me is a fish.,7% is tight enough 3bet that i probably call that guy anyway

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