on a massive bad beat run

[pokerroomace]

the past week or so i've been getting bad beat over and over again. i'm nearly always getting my money in with the best hand i just keep on getting drawn out on again and again and again.

for example, one hand today:
allin on turn with a player i know to be very loose.
the board is AKJ5r. i've been the aggressor on all streets and have AJ. he has 77. we're allin on the turn (i had a full stack pf and he had more than that). the river is a 7. and he wins a $100 pot that he had less than a 2% chance of winning.

this seems to be constantly happening to me in the past 2 weeks or so and it's really stressing me out. the good thing though is that i'm not tilting and i keep on getting my money in with the best hands.
obviously, i'm not playing perfect poker but i am playing winning poker and my profit is being cut down a lot by bad beats.

i still made a profit today and i'm about even over the last week or so.

but i should be up a few hundred dollars and my time-to-profit ratio is really annoying me. every day i'm constantly being bad beat.

i don't know why i'm posting this. i know it'll blow over soon. all advice is greatly appreciated though.

[martypalin]

Well it probably is a downswing so no biggie there personally I'm a rock and play JJ upwards because so many bad beats happen online. You at least minimize the risk.

In an 8hr day I usually play about 50 hands but I sure have fun in the meantime watching what saome people move in with!

All I see it as is that doubling up twice or so everyday is more than enough for me, so I just sit and wait for that nut flush or full house. I know you aren't throwing top two pair away but it was just bad luck. But you cant complain can you or people tell you to stop moaning!

[holdin2]

In an 8hr day I usually play about 50 hands

I'd kill myself from boredom. Please tell me you're only playing one table atleast?

[givememyleg]

50 hands in 8 hours?????????

[benny999]

i just had a similar run last month - beats like crazy. then these two days, i won every freakin hand, and ended up ~16 buyins for the month.

my advice is use it as motivation to improve your game, and just keep playing solid and be patient.

and lol at playing 50 hands in 8 hours. i hope u pushed all in and got callers each time.

[biondino]

I'm a rock and play JJ upwards because just as many bad beats happen online as in live games

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[martypalin]

In an 8hr day I usually play about 50 hands

I'd kill myself from boredom. Please tell me you're only playing one table atleast?

I play 2 cash games and the hourly guarenteed tourney at TonyG poker so that excludes the tourney obv. Anyway lol I'v got my radio on in the background lol the time flies by!

I'm a rock and play JJ upwards because just as many bad beats happen online as in live games

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It's the thought that counts I suppose mate, mind you I'm still waiting to see AA KK QQ and the rest all dealt together at my local casino in the same hand, mind you they dont profit from the rake so what they hey why would they want action.

[pokerroomace]

I'm a rock and play JJ upwards because just as many bad beats happen online as in live games

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i agree.

but there is some truth to what he says. if the level of play offline is better than the level of play online then you will get bad beat more often because you will be putting your money in with the best hand more often.

better players get bad beat more because they are nearly always putting in there money when they're ahead of their opponent.

also, in 8 hrs at a FR table. you should be playing about 400 hands. playing only 50 hands is playing 1 in 8 hands. which is about 12.5% of hands.
you should play try multitabling. things will go faster for you. don't have to wait as long.

also, JJ isn't such a good hand. you wouldn't want to stack off with it.
also, you can afford to play pocket pairs. limp pocket 2s. if you hit your set you can try stack your opponent - and if you don't it's a very easy fold.

also, bad beats shouldn't affect your play. you should be happy every time you get bad beat because in actual fact you are making a profit (theoretically) on the hand.
if you have a large enough BR bad beats shouldn't affect you.

[pokerroomace]

In an 8hr day I usually play about 50 hands

I'd kill myself from boredom. Please tell me you're only playing one table atleast?

I play 2 cash games and the hourly guarenteed tourney at TonyG poker so that excludes the tourney obv. Anyway lol I'v got my radio on in the background lol the time flies by!

I'm a rock and play JJ upwards because just as many bad beats happen online as in live games

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It's the thought that counts I suppose mate, mind you I'm still waiting to see AA KK QQ and the rest all dealt together at my local casino in the same hand, mind you they dont profit from the rake so what they hey why would they want action.

if you're playing 3 tables at once then you are playing over 150 hands per hour. at your local casino you probably play about 30 hands an hour. you'll see loads more weird things happen online than offline because of this.
you play approx. 1200 hands a day online (8hrs). that's 40 hrs of casino time - probably a few weeks worth of you going to the casino - you play online in one day! so of course weird stuff will happen online.

i can't remember seeing AA, KK and QQ all being dealt in the same hand online. i've seen AA vs AA vs KK and stuff like that a few times tho.
i saw hand like that offline though. i saw AK vs QQ vs JJ vs A9s all go allin preflop offline. (not such a weird hand tho)

the same things happen offline as they do online.

[biondino]

Last time I played live the table was 7-handed and all six of the other players went all-in. Can't rememebr that ever happening online.

Marty, if you think online poker is rigged then a) you're wrong and b) you'll always have it as an excuse for your own bad play. Which means you'll not fix the ACTUAL leaks that are harming your game. Your choice.

[martypalin]

Marty, if you think online poker is rigged then a) you're wrong and b) you'll always have it as an excuse for your own bad play. Which means you'll not fix the ACTUAL leaks that are harming your game. Your choice.

Please quote a post when I typed that online poker was rigged? I dont say it because I don't believe it.

Also bring up a bad beat I've posted, hmm I dont because I don't complain about them, I just move on.

As for having an excuse for my own bad play I'm thrilled you've watched me play for so long you can attribute this to to me being paranoid about online poker being fixed.

I don't multitable because I like to chat and watch the play and its frankly impossible over 6-8 tables. But this post isnt about me so lets leave it there.

[biondino]

lease quote a post when I typed that online poker was rigged?

It's the thought that counts I suppose mate, mind you I'm still waiting to see AA KK QQ and the rest all dealt together at my local casino in the same hand, mind you they dont profit from the rake so what they hey why would they want action.

There you go. Or were we supposed to draw some other inference from your implication that online sites manipulate pots to increase rake?

[biondino]

As for having an excuse for my own bad play I'm thrilled you've watched me play for so long you can attribute this to to me being paranoid about online poker being fixed.

Only players who are unwilling to accept that nothing more than a combination of their own competence, the competence of others and the influence of probability will affect their results accuse the sites of manipulating hands. QED.

[pokerroomace]

lease quote a post when I typed that online poker was rigged?

It's the thought that counts I suppose mate, mind you I'm still waiting to see AA KK QQ and the rest all dealt together at my local casino in the same hand, mind you they dont profit from the rake so what they hey why would they want action.

There you go. Or were we supposed to draw some other inference from your implication that online sites manipulate pots to increase rake?

I agree with blondino. In the above post you imply that online casinos are rigged.
And in an earlier post you also implied that online casinos are rigged:

Well it probably is a downswing so no biggie there personally I'm a rock and play JJ upwards because so many bad beats happen online. You at least minimize the risk.

More bad beats happen online. Therefore online rooms are rigged. That's what you have said above.

Also, on a side note, maybe you are minimizing the risk by only playing the best hands at low stakes. But you're losing out on a lot of potential winnings by playing this way.
Also, to at higher stakes you'll be losing money by not taking "risks". It is in fact a risk not to take risks.
There is no way you can beat the game and move up the stakes playing like a rock. Players will see that you aren't playing any hands and they will only play big pots against you when they have a better hand. Meanwhile you're going to be blinding away. And losing out on a lot of money.

[Miffed22001]

Well it probably is a downswing so no biggie there personally I'm a rock and play JJ upwards because so many bad beats happen online. You at least minimize the risk.

In an 8hr day I usually play about 50 hands but I sure have fun in the meantime watching what saome people move in with!

All I see it as is that doubling up twice or so everyday is more than enough for me, so I just sit and wait for that nut flush or full house. I know you aren't throwing top two pair away but it was just bad luck. But you cant complain can you or people tell you to stop moaning!

i loled for 5minutes at least.

[nutsinho]

lol at marty, i make more money off your type than any other sane opponent

[martypalin]

[quote="pokerroomace"]

lease quote a post when I typed that online poker was rigged?

It's the thought that counts I suppose mate, mind you I'm still waiting to see AA KK QQ and the rest all dealt together at my local casino in the same hand, mind you they dont profit from the rake so what they hey why would they want action.

There you go. Or were we supposed to draw some other inference from your implication that online sites manipulate pots to increase rake?

I agree with blondino. In the above post you imply that online casinos are rigged.
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No I'm saying more premium hands get dealt online. It's not an implication it is rigged because I didnt say 'Oh look my aces got cracjed for the fifth time this hour', I'm more likely to say 'look i got aces for the fifth time this hour'

Read the posts

[martypalin]

lol at marty, i make more money off your type than any other sane opponent

Great I'm happy for you, but you don't make money off me so it's all good

[pokerroomace]

[quote="martypalin"][quote="pokerroomace"]

lease quote a post when I typed that online poker was rigged?

It's the thought that counts I suppose mate, mind you I'm still waiting to see AA KK QQ and the rest all dealt together at my local casino in the same hand, mind you they dont profit from the rake so what they hey why would they want action.

There you go. Or were we supposed to draw some other inference from your implication that online sites manipulate pots to increase rake?

I agree with blondino. In the above post you imply that online casinos are rigged.

No I'm saying more premium hands get dealt online. It's not an implication it is rigged because I didnt say 'Oh look my aces got cracjed for the fifth time this hour', I'm more likely to say 'look i got aces for the fifth time this hour'

Read the posts

no offence. but you are an idiot.

by saying you get dealt AA more often online than you offline is saying that the online rooms are rigged or that the casinos you play at are rigged.

btw, i was playing a cash game with a few friends a week ago. there were 4 of us. we played for about 2 hrs. that's less than 100 hands.
big pairs got dealt so many times. i think AA was dealt about 4 times. players were constantly hitting sets it seemed.
the reason was probably because the person shuffling couldn't shuffle. i cba to do anything about it because i was probably gunna win against these guys anyway and they weren't cheating (they weren't dealing AA to themselves - it was spread out).

i'm not replying to this anymore coz ure ignorant

[Pleasebanonlinepoker]

Best advice is to play live. Online poker is a joke. There is a reason your always getting outdrawed. These sites need these donks playing and playing consistently. If they let the good players run over them all the time they number of players would decrease as would the profits. I find it funny that I can get all my money in with a hand that should win 7 times out of 10 yet only win once out of 10 then get told well you are seeing more hands than you would live. That makes no sense and would only serve to drive the point home that much further. If you want to win online play rags and call all ins with A7 and KJ a lot. You will win everytime.

[mrhappy333]

o boy not him again...

[givememyleg]

No I'm saying more premium hands get dealt online. It's not an implication it is rigged because I didnt say 'Oh look my aces got cracjed for the fifth time this hour', I'm more likely to say 'look i got aces for the fifth time this hour'

Read the posts

Online play is much, much faster paced versus live. Live you may only get in 20 or less hands per hour while online 100 or more isn't rare. (And with the new fast tables on poker stars 150+ is becomming quite common). I think this is something many people fail to realize. When playing with my friends live, I may never see TT+ in a 5 hour night. However, if you play a couple hour session online you're almost guaranteed to see AA - even single tabling.

[holdin2]

LOL @ PBOP

It's like on that old Nick show "You can't say that on television". Only instead of getting a pail of goo dropped on you everytime you say 'bad beat', you get PBOP jumping on his lecturn for another round of the same drivel.

[Pleasebanonlinepoker]

Drivel my ass, pokerstars is so obviously rigged. I have lost the last 10 overpair hands I got my money all in with. Just got flushed out of a tourney with KK against JJ. I should win that hand at least 60% of the time no? How am I losing it 90 % of the time? It isn't possible. The site favors the weak player. So they can stay the most popular site and collect that rake and entry fees.

[givememyleg]

Drivel my ass, pokerstars is so obviously rigged. I have lost the last 10 overpair hands I got my money all in with. Just got flushed out of a tourney with KK against JJ. I should win that hand at least 60% of the time no? How am I losing it 90 % of the time? It isn't possible. The site favors the weak player. So they can stay the most popular site and collect that rake and entry fees.

Please back this information up with stats and graphs.

Thanks.

[Pleasebanonlinepoker]

Please back this information up with stats and graphs.

Thanks.

Yea thats what I am going to do waste my time writing all that crap here. I just got busted out on the first hand of a MTT. I had KK and called a donk that went all in with JJ. Of course I lose since the J hits. That's 11 st8 over pairs of mine to go down. I guess I should just fold KK every time I get it right pegleg?

[Renton]

lol at massive bad beat run. Play 100k hands a month, and you will know the meaning of massive.

[Renton]

Please back this information up with stats and graphs.

Thanks.

Yea thats what I am going to do waste my time writing all that crap here. I just got busted out on the first hand of a MTT. I had KK and called a donk that went all in with JJ. Of course I lose since the J hits. That's 11 st8 over pairs of mine to go down. I guess I should just fold KK every time I get it right pegleg?

then QUIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!

QUIT FUCKING PLAYING ONLINE POKER, ITS FUCKING RIGGED SO DON'T FUCKING PLAY.

[Dislexsik]

ignore the troll

[Vi-Zer0Skill]

marty and PBOP

[nero5150]

online poker is rigged. everyone online telling stories about why they think it's rigged are the EXACT SAME STORIES I HAVE. ITS FUCKIN RIGGED!!!!