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    Default New setup/signup

    The old signup thread was getting cluttered.

    This is the setup that I have in mind.

    http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Double_Day_Unlimited

    - It's for 9 players, can be extended to 14 if more people want to play.

    - Each day there are 2 lynches before night occurs, one after the other.

    - Players can vote for multiple people at the same time.

    lynch ong
    lynch wuf
    lynch baudib


    Puts a vote on each of the above, voting thresholds stay the same.

    - Mafia get one kill each night.

    Thoughts?
    Last edited by MadMojoMonkey; 07-27-2015 at 11:25 PM.
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    elaborate on the voting scheme. Max votes allowed?
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    elaborate on the voting scheme. Max votes allowed?
    You can vote for as many people as you want at any given time. No rescinding of votes required unless you want to.

    So for example someone votes like so.

    lynch rilla
    lynch Gator


    This gives them one vote each. Voting for them again doesn't effect anything.

    If the same player then posted this.

    lynch rilla
    rescind Gator
    lynch wuf

    the totals would be rilla (1), wuf (1).
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    This looks like a great format, but unless I'm an early kill in my game... I wont be in. I will definitely rail this game, though.

    Jibbers, I hope someone's opening post is lynch everyone but me.
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    Are both lynches at eod?
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    I could IN if it started on the 3rd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luco View Post
    Are both lynches at eod?
    I was thinking of doing 1 midway through the day, then the 2nd at EOD.

    What does everyone think about allowing 'no lynch' to be an option?
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    I think no lynch should be an option, but in reality, I've only ever done it in 1 game.
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    I like no Lynch, and I like lynches only at deadline or some other set point
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    Only 2 in so far, is everyone busy/not interested?
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    In the MU game, Village lynched a wolf on D1, but I was NK on N1. I was VV, so Village has an excellent start on the game.

    Also, there's a role called the Hider which is an interestingly nerfed Seer.

    Town Hider
    Welcome, [Player Name], you are a Town Hider.

    Abilities:
    Each night, you can choose to Hide behind a player in the game, which will protect you in the event you'd ordinarily be targeted for a nightkill.
    If you Hide behind a player who is to be nightkilled, you'll die along with them.
    If you Hide behind a Mafia member or a Serial Killer, you'll also die.
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    Bad timing for me, sorry.
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    I ninja'd your link in the OP, Hoopy. It was misdirecting. It's fixed now.
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    I'm torn on the 'no lynch' rule.

    A) It's almost always bad for the village to not use their best tool to gain concrete information.
    B) Being forced to vote for the 2nd kill before you have the info from the 1st kill is brutal to the village.
    C) If the village is allowed a 'no lynch' and uses it every day, then it's just a standard vanilla game w/ 9 players and no specials.

    I guess C) would dominate my decision if I was the mod for this game.

    As a player, I'd ask that the kills be spread out as much as possible. I.e. 1 at half-day and 1 and EOD.
    Except it basically means the game is vanilla, except the wolves only get to attack every other night.
    That's not ideal from a mod's POV, either.

    I guess I'd want some compromise. Make the 1st kill two hours before deadline - just long enough to get village shenanigans at a peak.
    Except we play with a worldwide community and timing is a problem. Adjusting the "two hours" to fit everyone's schedule could be a problem.

    IDK, Hoopz.
    I don't envy you the decision. I will respect whatever you decide.

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    1 midway and then 2 at EOD?
    This is a 9-player setup. With 3 lynches and 1 NK each day... this game is decided at or before EOD on D2.
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    After MMM's considerations, I like both kills happening at the same time. Then the village can finally do the "lynch BOTH lead wagons!" thing
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    I accidentally assumed there would be no maj lynch, and that the kills would happen on a timeline.
    (That's how the MU game is running.)

    I think you have to get rid of maj vote.
    There will be 2 maj votes going on simultaneously.
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    4 IN!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey View Post
    I ninja'd your link in the OP, Hoopy. It was misdirecting. It's fixed now.
    Thanks MMM, how'd you find the MU game?
    Quote Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey View Post
    I accidentally assumed there would be no maj lynch, and that the kills would happen on a timeline.
    (That's how the MU game is running.)

    I think you have to get rid of maj vote.
    There will be 2 maj votes going on simultaneously.
    I was thinking of splitting the day in 2, and having 1 lynch midway and the other at the end of day. I'm open to ideas though.

    Having 2 lynches at the end of the day seems to favor the village since they can play it safe more, where as one in the middle forces people to reevaluate their opinions midway through the day.
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    Voting to no lynch is nearly always stupid for the village. Nearly. The only time it is actually a good thing is when it's 3 vs 1. In such a scenario, there are three potential mislynches, meaning the wolf has a better chance of winning than if it was 2 vs 1. Thus, it's in the village's interest to vote to no lynch when it's 3 vs 1. So far in my ww carreer, that's the only viable strategic use of a no lynch I've seen.

    Of course, if the village can no lynch, then the wolf should be able to no nom. Therefore, where such a scenario is possible, the mod needs to call a draw or force the issue somehow if both the village refuse to lynch and the wolf refuses to nom.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoopy View Post
    Thanks MMM, how'd you find the MU game?
    I clicked the link to the URL.
    yuk yuk

    The specific game:
    It was a solid D1 and we bagged a wolf. I played my no-frills villager style and got nommed on N1.
    Lol, they don't know my history of blowing up late-game. *sigh*
    It was a fun time while it lasted.

    The game's format:
    I liked the no maj lynch rule. I'm not sure I'd like it all the time, but it was a different mechanic than I was used to.
    The JK9++ format is excellent. I would def. play it again.

    The modding:
    There weren't any modding errors or mod-kills.
    Someone requested to be subbed and it was promptly taken care of.
    VC's were put up throughout the day.

    The site:
    The ability to see all the posts from a single player in isolation of the thread is AMAZING. Just click an ISO button and you get to see all of my posts. It's so freaking useful that I am going to seriously miss it ever more.
    They have an EOD timer that stays updated / counts down. So when the mod posts the VC and it says, day ends in XXd YYh ZZm, it's always correct for the current time.
    Also, they have some other interesting functionality which streamlines voting a bit.

    ***
    All in all, I'd say I have no complaints whatsoever, and plenty of compliments.

    Also. Thingyman is a beast. It was a real pleasure to play with him.
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    Ong is correct, the 3-1 scenario is the only time it's really viable to no lynch. In fact, at 3-1 it should be default for the village because it's such a better scenario for the wolf than 2-1.
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    I'm sure there's rare circumstances which involve specials where no lynch is viable, although I'm struggling to think of an actual example.

    The strange thing about a 3 vs 1 no lynch is essentially the wolf has two noms the night before final day, and it's to his detriment.
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    you shouldn't talk about ongoing games

    it's like a rule everywhere
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    It's a neutral comment.

    Like, "the game is fun".
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    Baudib's right, BID. You're alive and still involved.

    Even my own sentence in my above post was toeing the line.
    I was already dead, and didn't reveal anything the mod hadn't revealed in thread.

    If I had posted even, "we bagged a wolf," while I was still alive in that game, though...
    That's BAD.

    Don't be bad, BID.

    EDIT: "The game is fun." is far more neutral than, "I'm kicking ass."
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    like, not talking about ongoing games means you shouldn't talk about them. it's not ambiguous in any way shape or form.
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    i'm half-tempted to report BID to the game mod there but whatever, i'm too lazy.

    I would instamodkill you for this.

    anyone in that game from FTR can and will read these comments, and can read the clues about your role from them.
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    Fair enough.

    I had no idea the rules were this tight.
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    They're very tight about ongoing game discussion at mafiascum. People are regularly getting tempbans for what they consider to be innocent references to ongoing games. There's just been too many game compromised thanks to sloppy talk, and that ends up being a huge waste of everyone's time, especially the mod who puts a lot of work into the game for nothing.

    Even I've done it by accident. I picked up a warning via pm, and basically only avoided ban because I reported it myself and asked for it to be mod removed if it was a problem.

    baudib should probably avoid flagging it though, it might turn a minor incident into a major one. I dunno if drew is owning it as wolf or villager. There may be an ulterior motive for his posts in here, there may not be. I have no interest in figuring that out. I think the bollocking drew is getting here should be enough for him to thinks "oops" and pay more attention to this rule in future.
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    Here's the standard list posted in the OP of games on POG


    • As long as the game is ongoing, you may talk about the game only inside the game thread
    • You may post in the game thread only when it is DAY
    • You may post only when you are alive
    • If you have a role which allows you to communicate outside the game thread, then you may do so only when allowed by your role, and only with individuals specified by your role
    • You may not edit or delete posts in the game thread for any reason at any time
    • You may not post screenshots of, or directly quote your role PM, seer peeks, or any other game-related communication that originated outside of the game thread
    • You are expected to participate
    • You are expected to be familiar with the rules, and you are expected to abide by them even if you think they are incorrect
    • You are expected to behave civilly
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    I want in...
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    Quote Originally Posted by baudib View Post
    You are expected to behave civilly
    Might as well ask me to cure cancer!
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    Cancer is probably already curable, but it''s big business, right? No hurry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoopy View Post
    You can vote for as many people as you want at any given time. No rescinding of votes required unless you want to.

    So for example someone votes like so.

    lynch rilla
    lynch Gator


    This gives them one vote each. Voting for them again doesn't effect anything.

    If the same player then posted this.

    lynch rilla
    rescind Gator
    lynch wuf

    the totals would be rilla (1), wuf (1).

    What the Hell!!!! Why am I always the wolf? Oh yeah, it's because I always roll wolf. Carry on.
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    Oh, and in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClaudePri889 View Post
    I want in...
    Have you ever played before?
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    Still drumming up the interest, I might post in the commune to get more players.
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    cmon people FTR needs to play some werewolf!!!
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    i dont think i'll be able to play again for kinda ever. im taking the 1/p exam in six weeks, and if i pass that it means i did little but study between now and then. then the plan will be to pass the 2/fm exam twelve weeks later. from there on i would just get busier.
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    Yeah I'm in a similar boat as wuf. I may never play again.

    I started donating blood once every few months, the new call of duty comes out in november, and i may take up spanish lessons from my smartphone.
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    I have ethical obligations to not lie or misrepresent facts, so I just can never play wolf again.
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    According to the gov't, there's no such thing as werewolves, so I will never vote for a wolf again.
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    Does anyone know what I came upstairs for?
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    Anyone know how to get to Walmart?
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    Junction 252 or 252a on Interstate 85.

    Take the right down Bellemeade Avenue, then right on Howell Mill road, and it's on the right.
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    It's quite a complicated junction, there should be signs. It's behind the mill.
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    In case it's not obvious, I'm back from holiday now. I have a weekend away coming up but that's two days, I don't give a fuck about that.

    So...

    in
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    lock thread/ban OP
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    Quote Originally Posted by baudib View Post
    lock thread/ban OP
    Your mom says hi!

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    3 more needed!
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    in ffs
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    We've got 9 players!

    Luco
    BID
    gabe
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    MMM
    Ong
    JKDS
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    baudib

    I'll get things setup.
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    drew I need you to clear out some space in your PM inbox.
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    I was supposed to lynch everybody hours ago.
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    How do you know I don't need to empty out my inbox?

    I think you should roll those dice again.
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    its like stepping into a time machine, everything is as i left it. Including my being late for ww sign up.
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    yo can somebody send me the dead thread link in pm please
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    done
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    thx
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