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Originally Posted by Monty3038
I seriously doubt global warming at this point.
That is in response to WillburForce's question.
In all honesty, I haven't seen anything proven yet that can't be discounted in some way. Granted, it is a big risk, but in all reality, I'm worried about many other things.
I do find it odd that so many scientists are supposedly on the global warming bus, yet so many are disputing it. If the issue is so obvious, why aren't more scientists on board? Why is there such a heated discussion?
Plus, the negative PR that people receive because of GW is amazing. For GW to be taken seriously, you have got to get better spokespeople. Al Gore, Michael Moore, and others only bring disgrace to the cause.
Watch the youtube videos by greenman I posted. His channel is exclusively devoted to debunking anti-global warming myths by using scientific data and consensus.
And anthropogenic global warming (AGW) is not something that can be denied. Not. One. Bit. At the very fundamental of AGW is pure and simple, established chemistry and physics. We know that humans are emitting masses of CO2, we know that CO2 is a greenhouse gas (GHG), we know that CO2 levels are well above pre-industrial levels, we know that CO2 level increases correlates with human emissions, we know that this all correlates with the documented warming, and we have exactly ZERO other explanations for something other than human emissions that could be causing this. AGW is 100% undeniable simply based on the chemistry, physics, and raw data.
What you are referring to are people lying, the uneducated public bandwagoning along like normal, and in some ways a very tiny minority of unqualified scientists saying that 'the jury is still undecided'.
An example of people lying is sun spots. All AGW deniers are gung ho about how 'omg agw culd be caused by solar activity omg'. Except that this has been studied, and the data shows that indeed sun spots are not responsible for the GW trend from pre-industry. But the liars don't care, they just keep at it. Exactly how creationists have been lying for decades about the same garbage over and over
Then the uneducated public (the majority of public) clings to these lies because they don't like change and think they're perfect and want to feel all hunky dory before they die and go to heaven to be with their invisible sky daddy.
And the super tiny minority of scientists who doubt AGW can be found in just about every field. They always exist, but their existence isn't without many significant factors that show them to be wrong. They're never actual scientists who are currently heavily active in the particular field, they often have conflicts of interest, and what they say disagrees with the vast majority of scientists. Now, let's say your kid is sick and you go to the doctor, and the doctor says he need antibiotics, but you're skeptical so you go to another doctor, same diagnosis, another doctor, same diagnosis, then you go to a witchdoctor and he says that your kid doesn't need antibiotics because he's not sick. In fact, your kid has an evil spirit inside him that can only be expunged via holy water. Who you gonna listen to, the medical profession with the science to back them up, or the quack fringe dumbfuck who seems like he's making shit up?
Take evolution for example. Did you know that there exists a biologist who disagrees with evolution? This man's name is Michael Behe, and he's Intelligent Design's best man, when they need to present their best evidence for ID, they go to Behe.
Now, did you know that evolution is 100% fact? Did you know that we actually understand more about evolution than we do gravity? Since this is true, then how can Behe be a biologist who disagrees with evolution? Well, here's how, 1) he hasn't published a scientific paper in a decade or so (this means he is not an active scientist working in the relevant field despite the fact that he got a biology degree at one point, and thus his opinion is completely moot), 2) his assertions about ID and evolution have been proven 100% false over and over and over by simply using data and even in a court room in Pennsylvania, and 3) even Behe himself admits that he agrees with common descent, yet he neglects to acknowledge that common descent IS evolution. He is simply espousing that oft used but little known logical fallacy called cognitive dissonance
AGW is exactly like the 'evolution debate'. 100% AGW and evolution are true, but don't tell that to dumbfucks who try to skew it for whatever reason.
Also, you say that a lot of scientists are disputing AGW. They're not. You've been lied to. When examining these lists of scientists that deniers tout, you'll actually see that the majority of these scientists have claimed to be misread and have asked to be taken off the list but haven't been taken off because liars lie, many of them are not actually climatologists, instead they're like economists or social scientists, and their opinion carries exactly zero relevance, some on the list have massive conflicts of interest i.e. they work for oil companies or something, and the rest of the super small minority have been ostracized due to bad science or something.
You are being lied to. AGW is as much a fact as thermodynamics. Don't fall prey to misinformation just because it's easy
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