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Originally Posted by BananaStand
Are we unhealthy now? You keep talking about how great thing are in other countries, but that's definitive bullshit. 52 of the top 100, and 8 of the top 10 hospitals in the world are American. Socialized medicine is fucking great if you have a simple problem like a broken leg. But if you get a serious disease that require a complex treatment plan, you had better hope to fucking god you're not currently in Europe.
Which street are you talking about? People aren't dying in the streets. you made that up
Drones do the bulk of the fighting now. Fat guys can drive drones
I liked the system we had. Work, earn, buy insurance. That worked fine for me. And for those that can't earn...tehre's medicare.
If that's insufficient, it's because medicare wastes too much money. 60% of their spending goes to treat condition that end up killing people anyway. My own grandfather got 7-bypass heart surgery and medicare paid. Doctors gave him 10 years to live after that. That was in the early 90's, more than 20 years ago. He's still alive.
Yet for those 20 years, he didn't exercise, eat right, or take care of himself anywhere close to as well as he should have. And three years ago, he needed surgery again. Medicare put up six figures to help this guy squeeze out a few more years.
To me, that's bullshit. He already got one bite at the apple. Medicare should have let him die.
There's other things that can be done. 87% of illegal immigrant households are using medicaid, that's not awesome.
Jimmy - you still havent' answered savy's question. Why should people pay for your healthcare. A better question, is why can't you pay for it yourself.
Nothing youve posted demonstrates a shred of personal responsibility. You don't see a problem with that?
Everyone should have access to healthcare and not face financial ruin. You shouldn't have to decide between financial ruin, and dying because it's cheaper.
What does that say about you, when you seem to think, that people should die, simply because they can't personally afford healthcare? That's very inhumane. Before the ACA we had homeless robbing banks for $1, because they're guaranteed healthcare in the prison system. Is that the system you want to go back to? You need end of life care, rob a bank?
I already told you my work history, not ONE SINGLE JOB I HELD, in my prime working years, did I have money, to purchase health insurance, when I was done. When you're making $2.13 an hour at a restaurant, you get the health care costs down enough, that someone making $2.13 an hour can afford healthcare, and I'll do just as you said, buy healthcare with my own money. Do you understand that over half the workforce in this country, is at, near or below poverty? If a single low level traffic ticket, can wipe out 6 weeks of disposable income at my highest paying steadiest job, how do you expect me to purchase my own healthcare?
Medicare is for old people, because if we unleashed their healthcare on the private market, only the wealthiest of old people could afford it.
This is the modern day equivalent of "Let them eat cake" pretty much.
I tell you what, I'll go looking for a job, I probably won't hold it, because I have NEVER woken up on time, since I was 4 year old, with any consistency, without my parents or my brother waking me up first. I never have, never will, but I'll get that 9-5 job, I will probably lose it as I have lost most jobs, but I bet you, that when I get my first pay stub, it's NOT going to be able to finance healthcare and living expenses all at the same time.
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