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OESFD against LAG - whats your standard?

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    Default OESFD against LAG - whats your standard?

    Vil is 31/22 12% 3bet over 300~ hands. Quite aggro postflop and likes to barrel a lot. Do you guys usually like to push your equity while it's at its highest and get it in on this flop against this guy or peel the turn and let him barrel and shove over any turn?


    CO: $140.35
    BTN: $205.75
    SB: $264.65
    BB: $241.41
    Hero (UTG): $219.50

    Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is UTG with T 9
    Hero raises to $7.00, 2 folds, SB raises to $23.00, 1 fold, Hero calls $16

    Flop: ($48.00) J 4 Q (2 players)
    SB bets $33.00, Hero...
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    Yes, i would push the flop in a 3bet pot. Both your fold- and potequity are better now.
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    I would fold pre and shove flop all day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by griffey24 View Post
    I would fold pre
    Could you elaborate on this? Would you rather flat with hands that flop good top pairs such as KJ against this guy instead?
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    Quote Originally Posted by nitcracker View Post
    Could you elaborate on this? Would you rather flat with hands that flop good top pairs such as KJ against this guy instead?
    in b4 people put hero on a tight UTG opening range
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    fwiw it's 5handed and I'm playing somewhere around 25/20
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    Quote Originally Posted by surviva316 View Post
    in b4 people put hero on a tight UTG opening range
    Regardless of whether hero has a tight range, I can't imagine a good scenario here where we win a big pot unless we luckbox some flop. But can imaging quite a few spots losing a large-ish pot. Also even a super aggro villain 3betting 12% recognizes position, and will often have a much tighter range here, or at least a very polarized range vs which we will prob make quite a few mistakes (folding the best too often, calling the worst too often).

    I could just be a nit, but I prefer a fold here. Usually just fight back by 4betting bluffing pre in this spot.
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    I gave the other grip, I lost a flip for five stacks
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    cr flop mostly
    I got more flava than fruitstripe gum
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    Quote Originally Posted by griffey24 View Post
    I would fold pre and shove flop all day.
    this
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    raise and get it in
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    Definitely shove the flop in this spot all day long.
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    Cant call turn. Gotta jam. You are usually around a 52% favorite on flop unless he is counterfeiting your SD or FD. This hand is only valuable if you have fold equity because if you blank on turn you go down to 26% and if you hit you might not get paid.
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    I'd make it 71 total and shove any turn obv. I'm a bit torn on preflop. I think optimally we should be calling bigger cards rather than SCs oop versus this type of player but I dunno I feel like I peel here some % of the time as well, bleh.
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    if we fold here pre, what are we playing? T9s seems like an ideal hand to be part of your calling range
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukie View Post
    if we fold here pre, what are we playing? T9s seems like an ideal hand to be part of your calling range
    Given these aggro types are super polarized here, I'd rather add AA/KK to more of my calling range.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jay-Z
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    I gave the other grip, I lost a flip for five stacks

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