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Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey
This all depends on a large number of factors, mainly the specific villain's range and bet size. The single most important skill for you to have at a poker game is the ability to put villains on ranges. This should be your primary focus. The way you play your own cards is a function of villains' ranges and pot odds.
We're not being rude or difficult when we fail to answer your questions here. The problem is that you're looking to generalize aspects of the game that simply can not be generalized. Without knowledge of odds and ranges, we cannot tell you how to play any hand "properly". We can only tell you that you're probably too loose or too tight or too passive or too aggressive. We simply can not give you more specific advice without more specific information.
I mean if you said:
Villain 3-bets A% of hands, will continue with B% of hands, and will fold (A-B)/A = C% of hands. Hero is facing a call of D into a pot of E.
At what % of folds, F, does Hero become exploitable against these pot odds? What is the range of value hands, G, that Hero should continue with? With what range of hands, H, should Hero be happy to fold such that H/(H + G) = F?
You see how much the ranges and odds matter there? This doesn't even consider a 4-bet, or post flop play.
Please read this:
spoonitnow's Mathematics of EV Thread
I do, thank you and I think I understand where I went wrong. let me try again
ok so villain 3 bets 99+,AQs+ 3.3%
our UTG opening range is 44+,ATs+,KTs+,QTs+,J9s+,T9s,98s,87s,76s,65s,AJo+,K Qo
now say in this situation we DO NOT have a 4bet hand.( 4bet range is QQ+,AQs+,AKo
so our range is actually
JJ-44,AJs-ATs,KTs+,QTs+,J9s+,T9s,98s,87s,76s,65s,AQo-AJo,KQo
what portion of our range should we be folding, and what portion should we be calling?
I think this example will net a much better result. hopefully..
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