$1.50 9-Max SNG Early, Flop 333AA Full House

[BigSlickBaby]

This is an all day shove vs the biggest fish I've seen today and tonight in the SNG's, right? Top three in the money, it's the first few hands of the SNG (hand 6) and I of course see the two aces on board. Still, I'm jamming vs a fish who I know will call, right?


Winning Poker Network (Yatahay) - 15/30 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG+1: 51 BB (VPIP: 23.53, PFR: 5.88, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 18)
MP: 65 BB (VPIP: 60.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
MP+1: 57.83 BB (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 40.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
MP+2: 48.33 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
CO: 44 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
BTN: 48.83 BB (VPIP: 23.43, PFR: 17.18, 3Bet Preflop: 2.17, Hands: 254)
SB: 38.33 BB (VPIP: 18.99, PFR: 9.33, 3Bet Preflop: 2.63, Hands: 161)
Hero (BB): 50 BB
UTG: 46.67 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 3 3

UTG calls 1 BB, fold, fold, fold, MP+2 calls 1 BB, fold, fold, SB calls 0.5 BB, Hero checks

Flop: (4 BB, 4 players) A 3 A
SB bets 3 BB, Hero raises to 49 BB and is all-in, fold, fold, SB calls 34.33 BB and is all-in

[Savy]

What other options are you considering & why?

[BigSlickBaby]

What other options are you considering & why?

I guess none, you know? lol...I can't fold that hand but I suppose I could see that the two Aces on the board is dangerous enough and that roughly 80% equity on the hand (since it seems obvious fish is holding ace rag) isn't enough to put the whole buyin on that early in the SNG considering that I could easily outplay most at the table later on.

Still, I shoved because I knew it would ISO him and the guy was calling off hands at DON's and 9-Max SNG's that made him clearly the whale of the day on WPN.

[PJfan10]

I like your move. Ace rag will limp and probably call a flop like that not thinking you have big blind special AKA "The Nuts".

[BigSlickBaby]

I like your move. Ace rag will limp and probably call a flop like that not thinking you have big blind special AKA "The Nuts".

I pushed specifically looking for a call with Ax. I got it...

Winning Poker Network (Yatahay) - 15/30 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG+1: 51 BB (VPIP: 23.53, PFR: 5.88, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 18)
MP: 65 BB (VPIP: 60.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
MP+1: 57.83 BB (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 40.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
MP+2: 48.33 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
CO: 44 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
BTN: 48.83 BB (VPIP: 23.43, PFR: 17.18, 3Bet Preflop: 2.17, Hands: 254)
SB: 38.33 BB (VPIP: 18.99, PFR: 9.33, 3Bet Preflop: 2.63, Hands: 161)
Hero (BB): 50 BB
UTG: 46.67 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 3 3

UTG calls 1 BB, fold, fold, fold, MP+2 calls 1 BB, fold, fold, SB calls 0.5 BB, Hero checks

Flop: (4 BB, 4 players) A 3 A
SB bets 3 BB, Hero raises to 49 BB and is all-in, fold, fold, SB calls 34.33 BB and is all-in

Turn: (78.67 BB, 2 players) A

River: (78.67 BB, 2 players) 6

SB shows J A (Four of a Kind, Aces)
(Pre 47%, Flop 23%, Turn 100%)
Hero shows 3 3 (Full House, Aces full of Threes)
(Pre 53%, Flop 77%, Turn 0%)
SB wins 78.67 BB

I had stacked this guy several times already today so ...he's tagged and noted as the whale he has become.

[Savy]

I guess none, you know? lol...I can't fold that hand but I suppose I could see that the two Aces on the board is dangerous enough and that roughly 80% equity on the hand (since it seems obvious fish is holding ace rag) isn't enough to put the whole buyin on that early in the SNG considering that I could easily outplay most at the table later on.

So you think you should never get AA all-in preflop vs people early in SNGs?

This thread is essentially you crying because you lost the hand. There are some arguments to suggest flatting allows more people to put money in the pot chasing draws which you already have dead, you should have no trouble getting all the money in and you allow people the option to bluff. But shoving against a fish is going to be easily very +EV.

[BigSlickBaby]

So you think you should never get AA all-in preflop vs people early in SNGs?

This thread is essentially you crying because you lost the hand. There are some arguments to suggest flatting allows more people to put money in the pot chasing draws which you already have dead, you should have no trouble getting all the money in and you allow people the option to bluff. But shoving against a fish is going to be easily very +EV.

I can assure you that I wasn't crying when I made the thread or at any other time. Not in the least. I was legitimately curious as to if the play was a profitable one that early in an SNG and the fact of the matter was that I wasn't holding AA...I was holding 33.

Thanks for the input though...I really appreciate it.

edit: Still, I see your point. I understand that if I can double up with equity that strong, that early, I go for it. I guess the fact that I wasn't exactly holding AA isn't the main thing here. It's that when you clearly have the nuts, get the money in. I understand.

[bjsaust]

Get all the chips in with a huge advantage against a big fish and double up early.

Sounds like a solid plan. Don't be results oriented.

I mean, against an unknown, sure take a few streets to get that money in, but if you had a read on him, do it.

[matiusaa]

I think it great because its pretty obvious he has an A and it looks pretty obvious you don't have an A with a high kicker, so he will likely call you push

[Eric]

Yeah, gotta shove. Shouldn't over think this one.

[BigSlickBaby]

Get all the chips in with a huge advantage against a big fish and double up early.

Sounds like a solid plan. Don't be results oriented.

I mean, against an unknown, sure take a few streets to get that money in, but if you had a read on him, do it.

I have played so many hands since this that I wouldn't even make the thread today. Of course you get the money in on this one. Although I wasn't making the thread just to cry about a bad beat - I guess I can see why a more experienced player would think that. Wtf is the point in the end? OFC the money goes in here.