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    Default 100NL, AK oop facing flop raise

    villain is 17.7/5/3.3 over 80 hands. Any commitment plan when facing his flop raise?
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    UTG ($100)
    Hero ($128.65)
    MP2 ($104.50)
    CO ($88.50)
    Button ($104.90)
    SB ($126.50)
    BB ($133.80)

    Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K, A.
    1 fold, Hero raises to $4, CO calls $4, 3 folds.

    Flop: ($9.50) K, 8, 6 (3 players)
    Hero bets $6.5, CO raises to $16.5, Hero ?
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    Insta-fold.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miffed22001
    Insta-fold.
    What? No I don't think so.

    I would make a committing a 3-bet and get it allin. It is a small sample of stats and his stack tells me he is a donk.
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    really?? are you so nitty that you fear he raised with set? i just meant that we are definitely not committed if we decide to flat call his bet.
    Quote Originally Posted by Miffed22001
    Insta-fold.
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    put him on a range.

    is he raising the flop with QJdiamonds??

    I dont think so.
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    Let's put villain on hands:
    AdKx
    AQdd
    KQ
    T9dd
    97dd
    KK
    88
    66

    Can someone run pokerstove with these ranges as I don't have it here?

    This might indeed be a fold as only 1 hand we are crushing, but we are being crushed by some ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deanglow
    Quote Originally Posted by Miffed22001
    Insta-fold.
    What? No I don't think so.

    I would make a committing a 3-bet and get it allin. It is a small sample of stats and his stack tells me he is a donk.
    I agree 100%.

    Quote Originally Posted by Miffed22001
    put him on a range.

    is he raising the flop with QJdiamonds??

    I dont think so.
    Yes, he is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spoonitnow
    Quote Originally Posted by Deanglow
    Quote Originally Posted by Miffed22001
    Insta-fold.
    What? No I don't think so.

    I would make a committing a 3-bet and get it allin. It is a small sample of stats and his stack tells me he is a donk.
    I agree 100%.

    Quote Originally Posted by Miffed22001
    put him on a range.

    is he raising the flop with QJdiamonds??

    I dont think so.
    Yes, he is.
    im gald you think so, i havent seen it yet
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    a set is possible here obviously and as for QJ of diamonds I think a raise with that hand is totally possible. I raise a lot of my draws on the flop. The issue here is with a set you are totally eating it but with any draws you are doing pretty well unless he has some wicked combo draw like 79d. I would say three-bet, a set or aces will shove here but a draw will most likely only call and then you can decide on the turn. Also a 17/5 probably calls a fair amount of suited connectors in position so I wouldn't put so little weight on that.
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    I see two options which are equally good in the long run.

    1. Raise to $35 with the intention of folding to a shove. If he flat calls and the turn is a non-diamond, you shove.

    2. Raise to at least $50 and call a shove (maybe just shove yourself, it really doens't matter). If he flat calls, shove all turns.
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    Oh, and to answer jimmy44's question:

    23,760 games 0.005 secs 4,752,000 games/sec

    Board: Kh 8d 6d
    Dead:

    equity win tie pots won pots tied
    Hand 0: 50.888% 38.72% 12.17% 9199 2892.00 { AhKd }
    Hand 1: 49.112% 36.94% 12.17% 8777 2892.00 { KcKs, 88, 66, AKs, AdQd, KQs, Td9d, 9d7d, AKo, KQo }
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    Are you guys feeling comfortable NOW?
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    UTG ($100)
    Hero ($128.65)
    MP2 ($104.50)
    CO ($88.50)
    Button ($104.90)
    SB ($126.50)
    BB ($133.80)

    Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K, A.
    1 fold, Hero raises to $4, CO calls $4, 3 folds.

    Flop: ($9.50) K, 8, 6 (3 players)
    Hero bets $6.5, CO raises to $16.5, Hero calls $10.

    Turn: ($42.50) 9 (3 players)
    Hero checks, CO checks.

    River: ($42.50) 3 (3 players)
    Hero ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexMorris
    Oh, and to answer jimmy44's question:

    23,760 games 0.005 secs 4,752,000 games/sec

    Board: Kh 8d 6d
    Dead:

    equity win tie pots won pots tied
    Hand 0: 50.888% 38.72% 12.17% 9199 2892.00 { AhKd }
    Hand 1: 49.112% 36.94% 12.17% 8777 2892.00 { KcKs, 88, 66, AKs, AdQd, KQs, Td9d, 9d7d, AKo, KQo }
    Thanks!
    Didn't thought is was 50/50.
    Ops I forgot the hands AA & QQ-TT. So this should even more favorable. We need to 3bet to around $40 and call a shove ...

    Quote Originally Posted by pokerfan
    Are you guys feeling comfortable NOW?
    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (7 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    UTG ($100)
    Hero ($128.65)
    MP2 ($104.50)
    CO ($88.50)
    Button ($104.90)
    SB ($126.50)
    BB ($133.80)

    Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K, A.
    1 fold, Hero raises to $4, CO calls $4, 3 folds.

    Flop: ($9.50) K, 8, 6 (3 players)
    Hero bets $6.5, CO raises to $16.5, Hero calls $10.

    Turn: ($42.50) 9 (3 players)
    Hero checks, CO checks.

    River: ($42.50) 3 (3 players)
    Hero ?
    The guy has AK (with the A of diamonds)
    Bet 1/2 pot and fold to a push.
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    c/c something small, otherwise fold.

    i think 3betting is spew and calling is worse.
    Your opponent isnt even raising a diamond draw 25% of the time here which weighs his had heavily toward splitting with tptk/and being fked versus sets and combo draws.

    I think the opponents range is generous on the stove calculation

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