Finally something we can agree on.
06-02-2018 04:05 AM
#2551
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Finally something we can agree on. | |
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06-02-2018 08:08 AM
#2552
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I'd be the CEO of whichever company gave me the most generous severance package. Then I'd go about getting myself fired, or whatever happens to a CEO. Vote of No Confidence? Whatever. Pension please. | |
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06-04-2018 02:41 AM
#2553
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Banana, I can't reply to that. | |
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06-04-2018 09:29 AM
#2554
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I don't believe I asked you to read my mind. I'll recap the open questions. |
06-04-2018 08:54 PM
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The physics and chemistry are real. The measurements are probably solid. It's the complex climate models and economic models that have so far had no predictive power. |
06-04-2018 10:13 PM
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06-05-2018 09:06 AM
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More importantly, it doesn't matter what it means. Imagine Al Gore's wet dream came true and all the science proved beyond any doubt that car exhaust and plastic bottles were solely to blame for the earth warming. And since we're still in Al Gore's dream, let's also assume that congress would unanimously pass legislation that would completely eliminate America's contribution to climate change. |
06-05-2018 10:22 AM
#2558
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Banana, just keep it to one point. I don't get a lot out of talking to you. This is too much. | |
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06-05-2018 10:26 AM
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Last edited by oskar; 06-05-2018 at 01:34 PM.
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06-05-2018 10:28 AM
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Last edited by oskar; 06-05-2018 at 10:33 AM.
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06-05-2018 11:39 AM
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Fine. It all boils down to one single question that I have asked twice, and still haven't gotten an answer. I'll ask a third time now... |
06-05-2018 01:30 PM
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06-05-2018 02:20 PM
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06-05-2018 03:09 PM
#2564
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This feels like one of those situations where someone has made claims that are either patently false, or easily debunked on the basis of incompleteness or misunderstanding. And rather than contend with those realities, this person is just going to invoke the "banana is an ass hole" defense and use it to invalidate everything I say. That is such a weak-sauce cop out. It's fascinatingly disappointing to see someone purport to be participating in an intellectual discussion, and then use such an intellectually cowardly tactic to avoid defending his own statements. |
06-05-2018 08:43 PM
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Last edited by wufwugy; 06-05-2018 at 08:45 PM. | |
06-05-2018 08:50 PM
#2566
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Obama's years long spying on a political opponent is the biggest political scandal in US history? Yes or no? |
06-05-2018 09:08 PM
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06-05-2018 09:35 PM
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06-05-2018 09:43 PM
#2569
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06-05-2018 09:59 PM
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06-05-2018 10:20 PM
#2571
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I didn't say what kind of contest. | |
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06-05-2018 10:21 PM
#2572
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But I did assume it was for the guinness book of fucking retards. | |
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06-05-2018 10:22 PM
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06-05-2018 11:11 PM
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06-05-2018 11:36 PM
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06-06-2018 06:12 AM
#2576
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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...95292191248385 | |
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06-06-2018 06:17 AM
#2577
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*later he claimed that particular tweet was a joke | |
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06-06-2018 06:22 AM
#2578
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I love this one though | |
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06-06-2018 06:26 AM
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Kind of important for the Environmental Protection Agency to, you know, protect the environment right? | |
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06-06-2018 08:45 AM
#2580
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Yes, but protecting the environment requires having and enforcing regulations, and that would be bad for business, and ergo bad for stock market, and ergo bad for the common man. Just because e.g., Flint doesn't have clean drinking water doesn't mean the common man isn't benefiting; you have to see the big picture. Like with the tax cuts that help the wealthy, removing regulations makes life better for everyone. | |
06-06-2018 08:47 AM
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Also, lolz | |
06-06-2018 10:41 AM
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06-06-2018 09:37 PM
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Do you think Trump thinks the physics is a hoax? Do you think he thinks the data are a hoax? Do you think he thinks the models are a hoax? Do you think he thinks the political agenda is a hoax? |
06-06-2018 09:38 PM
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06-06-2018 09:40 PM
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06-07-2018 08:02 AM
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06-07-2018 08:05 AM
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Isn't there an equally obvious truth that discounting global warming as a hoax is a money-making industry? | |
06-07-2018 11:13 AM
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06-07-2018 12:29 PM
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06-07-2018 12:51 PM
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http://www.newsweek.com/pruitt-trump...s-trump-962703 | |
Last edited by oskar; 06-07-2018 at 12:54 PM.
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06-07-2018 09:00 PM
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Last edited by wufwugy; 06-07-2018 at 09:19 PM. | |
06-07-2018 09:13 PM
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Thanks for the reply. |
Last edited by wufwugy; 06-08-2018 at 12:52 AM. | |
06-07-2018 09:13 PM
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06-07-2018 09:15 PM
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06-07-2018 09:18 PM
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Fair assessment. |
Last edited by wufwugy; 06-08-2018 at 12:50 AM. | |
06-08-2018 05:22 AM
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People talk about climate change deniers like they are on the same intellectual level as flat earthers. | |
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06-08-2018 05:24 AM
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"beyond any doubt whatsoever" | |
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06-08-2018 10:06 AM
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If they're in denial of climate change, then they are on the same intellectual level as flat Earthers. | |
06-08-2018 10:26 AM
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^Agreed. It might well be that the warming is caused by something entirely different, like dark energy interacting with human male genitalia. It is also true that everything we know about anything points to greenhouse gas emissions being the culprit, and the models are fitting the data perfectly. I'm not quite sure what the failing models are. Obviously there are different projections since we don't have all the variables, some predictions are bound to be less accurate than others. | |
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06-08-2018 10:14 PM
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This has a lot to do with measurement problems. "True" growth (since a better term doesn't exist) per capita has been very big over this time. |
06-08-2018 10:17 PM
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I heard that a lot of the data are proprietary, meaning that they're not truly peer reviewed. |
06-08-2018 11:19 PM
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I am confused. Do you think asbestos is "100% safe" and that the fight to eradicate it was a "mob-run conspiracy," or have you never read 1984? | |
Last edited by oskar; 06-09-2018 at 12:31 PM.
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06-09-2018 12:12 AM
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There's nothing hidden or proprietary about data leading to the 2 conclusions I mention. | |
06-09-2018 12:17 AM
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Global warming isn't going to kill people. Well, not a significant %-age of people. It's going to move climate zones, change coastlines, if it goes as the current trend indicates, there will be extinctions of non-humans. | |
06-09-2018 12:48 AM
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06-09-2018 04:34 AM
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The data to prove the world is warming is not nearly as compelling as the data that proves the world is spherical. | |
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06-09-2018 04:39 AM
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oskar, as much as I like the fluffy animals, extinctions are part of nature. If you were given a choice... 1) live for 50 more years and koalas become extinct, or 2) die and save the koalas, what are you choosing? | |
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06-09-2018 05:28 AM
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The evidence regarding the shape of the Earth is irrelevant - not sure why you keep bringing it up. | |
06-09-2018 05:31 AM
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06-09-2018 06:08 AM
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06-09-2018 06:26 AM
#2611
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I'd genocide koalas, no false dilemma required. They are a vile and disgusting species. | |
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06-09-2018 06:50 AM
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We're a vile and disgusting species. Only, there's a danger we might one day escape the limits of our Solar System and infiltrate other regions of the universe. I'd genocide the planet, humans, koalas and all. | |
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06-09-2018 07:06 AM
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That's a great story. | |
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06-09-2018 07:39 AM
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It's certainly a lot more viable than alternative theories. | |
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06-09-2018 07:39 AM
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06-09-2018 07:45 AM
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06-09-2018 07:55 AM
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Meanwhile, Trump is meeting with America's barely-still-friends to see if his new friend can join them. | |
06-09-2018 08:07 AM
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Thermometers. Nice. I do actually have one of those, and I can see global warming happening right now. I took it outside, and it said 17 degrees. I came back in the house, and just ten minutes later it's 22 degrees. Fuck me, in an hour or two I'll be dead.. | |
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06-09-2018 08:58 AM
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Your house and the space around it today are not a representative sample of the Earth's climate over the past 150 years or so. | |
06-09-2018 10:36 AM
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06-09-2018 11:39 AM
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I cannot know what trump thinks at any point in time whatsoever, I can only go by what he publicly claims. | |
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06-09-2018 12:06 PM
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Trump's superpower: making his opponents think ridiculous things. |
06-09-2018 12:07 PM
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About the global warming = hoax comment: |
Last edited by wufwugy; 06-09-2018 at 12:34 PM. | |
06-09-2018 12:10 PM
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The measurements of climate change are probably good. The probability that they are not is >0 and probably >10%. The certainty demonstrated by some on the measurements in the face of the uncertainty could be emotion speaking. |
06-10-2018 12:09 PM
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Simply spectacular |