Why libertarianism is so dangerous.

[a500lbgorilla]

My points about Economics were their own. I almost made the point earlier that your contention that 3rd world countries seem fine while following the NA principle was akin to my point about NJ/PA w.r.t the minimum wage - sniffing around the edges but missing the central push. But when I argue against Economics and argue against the understanding of the consequences of raising the minimum wage, I know how, where, and why I'm full of shit. Economic theory gets the main thrust, but it misses the details. But you don't have this same appreciation. The world won't follow first principles and the NA principle is a first principle.

edit: The world won't follow first principles... or maybe it will. But I'll bet against anyone's guess at them every time.

[Renton]

My points about Economics were their own. I almost made the point earlier that your contention that 3rd world countries seem fine while following the NA principle was akin to my point about NJ/PA w.r.t the minimum wage - sniffing around the edges but missing the central push.

I think my point about 3rd world countries can seem cherrypicky but I wasn't intending to definitively state that those countries were better off. Only that the crime has a lot more to do with the incentives for committing crime than for the justice system that punishes the crime. For example, the third world countries that make all the heroin (afghanistan, burma, etc) are pretty fucked up. The fact that Afghanistan and Burma are not developed countries has less to do with this than the fact that they are vital to black markets.

[a500lbgorilla]

I think my point about 3rd world countries can seem cherrypicky but I wasn't intending to definitively state that those countries were better off. Only that the crime has a lot more to do with the incentives for committing them than for the justice system that punishes them. For example, the third world countries that make all the heroin (afghanistan, burma, etc) are pretty fucked up. The fact that Afghanistan and Burma are not developed countries has less to do with this than the fact that they are vital to black markets.

Yeah, "seem fine"

edit alright, now I'm just being a douche. Sorry.