Werewolf - Collapse of Civilization

[OngBonga]

I tell you what, my vote stays, but gator is most definitely on a different level to the rest of us. Now I see why he saved wuf on night two... so when he fake outs as the medium after he gets looked up, he can say he knew wuf was a villager, and maybe get s to lynch the real medium, saving his team a nom. It's not just because it's so obviously wolfy a wolf wouldn't do it.

The man is five moves ahead of the rest. If the fucker is a wolf, I take my hat off to him.

Lynch him already.

[lolzzz_321]

Because it gives him info. No one would look you up. It increases his odds of getting another wolf. Mostly unharassed. Ot also gives him a uniqe spin on the info you spit out.

No, no, no, hell no.

No one has looked me up because I'm the medium.

How does this increase his odds of getting another wolf when he knows there is only 1 left?

Would he risk getting randomly nommed just to find the last wolf? Why would I out myself so early in the game if I wasn't the medium?

[lolzzz_321]

Ok, went thru some of the thread to see if I could find your hints. Looks like you did a great job of doing your homework. Hears the thing, maybe you can clear it up. If you talked to wilbur, who died on night one, and who was the other person besides bigred you could have contacted that night (important point kids), and who told you wuf was a villager, then why did you jump on wufs band wagon toward the end, almost putting the nail in his coffin?

Just fucking arrooo already.

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[OngBonga]

That's a big number. It's so big that google can't tell me its reciprocal.

[TLR]

TLR, you seem kinda smart, why did gator not out himself when I outted myself as the medium like 8,000 days ago? The village would have had a huge advantage with lookups and the angel still protecting him.

I think Gator should be the one to answer this; I can think of a few reasons. I also think that him not coming out as a medium is more sensible then you coming out as a medium at the time you did

[lolzzz_321]

That's cool TLR. Why did Gator try to put a nail in wuf's coffin when he "knew" he was a villager?

[lolzzz_321]

Also, riddle me this - How does Philly not look up me, the guy started his bandwagon, THE GUY WHO IS CLAIMING TO BE THE MEDIUM, but he's like omg fuck it I'm gonna look up Shotglass cuz she is a pretty little girl.

LMFAO (-Shufflin)

[lolzzz_321]

Also, riddle me this - How does Philly not look up me, the guy started his bandwagon, THE GUY WHO IS CLAIMING TO BE THE MEDIUM, but he's like omg fuck it I'm gonna look up Shotglass cuz she is a pretty little girl.

LMFAO (-Shufflin)

gator claimed he tapped philly who looked up shotlgass last night fyi, sry if that wasn't clear

gator = wolf
bikes = villager

[lolzzz_321]

i know black dudes like white girls ('specially thick ones) but makes no sense for philly to look up shotty imo

[GatorJH]

Replying on my phone so pls excuse small typo errors and such.

Wilbur wasn't available for a reachout on night one as I didn't know he was dead until day two. Look at my view of wuf between day two and day three.

At lolzzz - imo a wolf I can follow for days is much more valuable than a dead one. It may have been a mistake, but was one I was willing to make.

[Hoopy]

I think TLR has the right idea for today.

lynch supa

[lolzzz_321]

I guess I could be down with a lynch supa or TLR? I don't see why we don't lynch gator today tho and just get that 7 - 1 advantage tom.

[lolzzz_321]

QUESTIONS FOR WOLF MAN GATOR

1.) Why did you nearly put the nails in Wuf's coffin when you knew he was a villager?
2.) Why do you think philly looked up shotglass instead of me, the dude who was claiming to be the medium but, the guy who got him killed?

[lolzzz_321]

bikes , can I get a gator vote?

[GatorJH]

Already answered #1

Didn't Gget to have a beer and chat so you will have to ask him that question later.

[TLR]

Why is lolzzz going so hard for Gator right now ? I think the most logical explanation is that supa and him are the two wolves

[lolzzz_321]

uh because I got the lookup info that he is a wolf and am sticking by it, obv philly is not retarded enough to not look me up

yes, lynch me find out im the medium then lose a villager at night orrrrr we can just lynch gator?

[lolzzz_321]

Why is lolzzz going so hard for Gator right now ? I think the most logical explanation is that supa and him are the two wolves

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lol yes UC I HAD THIS GRAND STRATEGY TO OUT MYSELF AS THE MEDIUM ONE MILLION DAYS AGO BUT U C IM REALLY A WOLF AND SUPA AND I ME, WE NIGGAS WE GONNA PWN U ALL

[OngBonga]

This is why we need to sort this shit out today. If we lynch supa and the wolves leave the medium alive, we've got another day of this crap.

One of them has to die.

[lolzzz_321]

Can we all agree that philly not looking me up is like < 15%?

[Shotglass]

i know black dudes like white girls ('specially thick ones) but makes no sense for philly to look up shotty imo

if he already knew you were a wolf he mighta thought that we'd figure it out and decided to scan me "because I've been acting wolfy" (quote from Ongie).

rescind lolzzz
lynch supa

[lolzzz_321]

yep, like ong said

I think the wolves think they have a better chance if gator and me stay alive so there is always that "unknown" who is the medium factor.

Let us not fear the unkown, let us crush it, let us hang Gator like we hanged the Jim Crow laws that hanged Philly (my bad, bro). I'm asking you my brothers, let's hang gator!

[lolzzz_321]

There is no way philly "knew" I was a wolf. Philly would want the village to see who I really was since I, who has the powers of the medium, started a bandwagon on his ass.

Gator is just offering a lame cop out "i didn't sit down and have a 40oz malt liquor with him" cuz he knows that it can't be explained. Philly would want to reveal to the village who i really was if I wasn't the medium.

Unfortunately, I AM THE FKN MEDIUM SO I AM THE ONE WHO TAPPED PHILLY AND PHILLY SAID GATOR IS A WOLF. In related news, bikes is a villager.

[GatorJH]

Onga, I don't get how you can't see that the wolves HAVE to nom me (the medium) tonight.

I have to head to a work function and won't be able to check in again until after the deadline and since I know I will die either today or tonight I will sign off with a .....good luck village!!!

[lolzzz_321]

Onga, I don't get how you can't see that the wolves HAVE to nom me (the medium) tonight.

I have to head to a work function and won't be able to check in again until after the deadline and since I know I will die either today or tonight I will sign off with a .....good luck village!!!

cliff notes: my shit im saying doesn't make sense, i better stop, im a wolf

[lolzzz_321]

guys, I have never posted this much in a werewolf game before because I hardly care, until now, when the village has to hang gator (also bikes is a villager) and they are counting on my info to stop them from hanging someone else. I AM THE MEDIUM and I am here for you. Lynch GATOR!!!!

[OngBonga]

Onga, I don't get how you can't see that the wolves HAVE to nom me (the medium) tonight.

I have to head to a work function and won't be able to check in again until after the deadline and since I know I will die either today or tonight I will sign off with a .....good luck village!!!

I think it depends who the wolves are. If the wolves are you and shotty, then you have very little left... you will leave lolz alone because that's the best chance you guys have of victory. If the wolves are not gator and shotty, well then I'd expect the medium to get nommed.

This is why I feel we have to lynch either lolz or gator.

Each villager should vote for the person they think is a wolf out of these two.

[lolzzz_321]

i think gator is a wolf fyi

[OngBonga]

Also, shotty flipping to supa was massively predictable. It's worth noting that this drunk thread where shotglass' gender was exposed, benny has been involved in this thread. Why then would he refer to shotty as a "he" several times in one post? Looks very much to me like he's trying to pretend he doesn't know she's a she, you know, like he hasn't been communicating with her in the den etc.

[Ragnar4]

So its 4 for supa and 4 for gator??? How the fuck???

[wufwugy]

like i said, im not really paying much attention so i should just keep quiet but i get the feeling that gator is obv the wolf and its possible the wolves are not planning on noming the medium. they could have decided that the medium percentage might be low enough that they could take certain risks (like gator saving me). while i agree with tlr that theres a better lynch today than gator or lolz, i kinda dont care

gator plus supa or shotty as wolves makes most sense. gator plus tlr would be crazy but for other reasons ive had tlr on my short list of wolves but i also dont feel like he should die early, especially if gator goes. im lost on ragnar. i also dont wanna wagon supa or shotty personally because they were integral on delynching me. push come to shove in later days ill make a decision, but im a super nice guy who doesnt wanna turn around an accidentally lynch a villager who helped me out

[wufwugy]

actually right now i want to hop off gator and gat ragnar, but its tied up and i dont wanna be a cinch vote since im not paying much attention

but rag is posting too much vs posting so little before. i do think rilla gave him the coinflip because hes a wolf trying to do nothing

[OngBonga]

Rag, do you want this medium thing sorted out today? Flip to gator. If he's the medium, it's not great, but we'll have a 5-1 advantage once we lynch lolz and lose who we're gonna lose. Better still, gator is a wolf and we're at 7-1. If we leave them both, it remains messy if the wolves don't nom the medium, which they don't have to do because there is no guarantee that the medium will get good info.

If supa picks up more votes, I'm happy to flip to lolz if the others on the gator wagon are willing to follow suit.

[OngBonga]

Wuf, didn't I make myself clear earlier? Fuck ragnar, he's a villager 90% of the time and a day one lynch every game I play with him in the future the other 10%.

[supa]

Already answered #1

No you didn't.

[lolzzz_321]

No you didn't.

"Wilbur wasn't available for a reachout on night one as I didn't know he was dead until day two. Look at my view of wuf between day two and day three."

[lolzzz_321]

we need bikes or someone to flip to gator, i also wanna see rilla flip the coin live on skype if it ends up that way

[supa]

"Wilbur wasn't available for a reachout on night one as I didn't know he was dead until day two. Look at my view of wuf between day two and day three."

I realize that and I was wrong there, but that wasn't the question. The question was why did Gator get on wufs wagon when 5 people were already on there and he knew wuf was a villager?

[supa]

QUESTIONS FOR WOLF MAN GATOR

1.) Why did you nearly put the nails in Wuf's coffin when you knew he was a villager?
2.) Why do you think philly looked up shotglass instead of me, the dude who was claiming to be the medium but, the guy who got him killed?

He said he answered #1 but never did. Because there can be no logical explanation for it.

[a500lbgorilla]

4 votes for GatorJH (lolzzz, OB, supa, wufwugy)
4 votes for supa (gator, hoopy, shotglass, TLR)
1 votes for lolzzz_321 (Ragnar)

6 votes for a lynch.

[lolzzz_321]

ok, i see now... ok guys, gator, who is claiming to be the seer, banwaggoned on wuf who he supposedly knew was a villager

can we get two peeps to switch or bikes to chime in?

[bikes]

lynch gator

was irl and then sleeping sorry guys

[wufwugy]

rescind gator lynch supa

[wufwugy]

goddamnit i was gonna do a super awesome joke but forgot to bold that so it doesnt coutn and i cant make the joke cuz i cant edit post

lame

[wufwugy]

neeways bi bi gator wasnt nice knowin ur lyin lyin pants on fyin ass

[Shotglass]

I disagree. Lolzzz early outing was terribad... It caused several other early outings. Gator is good for the village if hes the seer, and dead tomorrow if hes not. Lynching lolz or gator really has a zero sum outcome because if we get it right and lynch the wolf... The other dies tonight.

Also. Gators list becomes huge in this game last time i ran with him and i fake drunk outted to win. That was his idea... He also provided the idea to "balance" my list by providing a wolf among the sheep so to speak. Since a villager was hanged to test the list. It gave the others this partial immunity for a while. Im too lazy to look back and see whose on the list right now. But imo gators outing as the medium with a deluge of info is the perfect way to win as the medium and the perfect way to cost the wolves a win.

Lolzzz has mishandled his medium duties all along. Should he be the medium its been badbadbad. My last lynch was 100 based on his reccomendation. Youll excuse me if im a tad gunshy to listen to the shit hes churning again.

If you truly believe this then flip to supa and let rilla toss a coin

[Shotglass]

Unfortunately, I AM THE FKN MEDIUM SO I AM THE ONE WHO TAPPED PHILLY AND PHILLY SAID GATOR IS A WOLF. In related news, bikes is a villager.

Newsflash: YOU ARE ALSO THE ONE WHO SAID THAT PHILLY IS NOT A VILLAGER and got a train pulled on him. Now, you are trying it again.

[OngBonga]

Can we please lynch shotglass when we find out gator is a wolf?

[Shotglass]

If Gator's a wolf then the only post I'll make will be lynch myself for being stupid.

[Shotglass]

That;s because I can't howl.....not a wolf :P

[OngBonga]

I mean, honestly, there is a part of me that thinks that surely you and gator can't both be wolves, because he wouldn't let you be so stupid... but then, maybe gator has told you to go balls out defending him because obviously gator wouldn't tell you to go balls out defending him. He's a clever cookie.

[Ragnar4]

Ok shotglass. Ill bite.

Rescind lolzzzz
Lynch Supa

[OngBonga]

Oh for fucking jesus shitting christ. Does anyone actually think supa is a wolf?

[OngBonga]

I blame wuf.

[supa]

Inorite.

[supa]

Oh man, Jesus shitting Christ looks hilarious in my head.

[wufwugy]

wtf did i do

[supa]

Inorite was for the me being a wolf thing, but it's still fun to blame you for shit.

[OngBonga]

wtf did i do

You did what I asked you to do. You didn't finish philly, and ragnar got his vote in. I blame Jesus.

Sorry I'm drunk and now I'm pissed off because some fucking cunt who happens to be a winning mtt player with like $8k profit just raised A7s utg mega deep in a tourney and so I make a HUGE shove from the BB with QQ and the fucker calls and hts his miracle. Like, what the fuck? How is he running at a big profit? I don't understand.

I blame bikes.

[supa]

So we have 24hrs before the coin flip happens, whaddaya guys wanna talk about?

[OngBonga]

I dunno, how's about everyone on the gator wagon flips to lolz? I don't think he's a wolf, but at least we find out what we need to.

[lolzzz_321]

sigh, rilla can u broadcast the coin flip?

[OngBonga]

Oh wait, that still won't help. I'm going to bed, I can't see.

[OngBonga]

This village sucks. I'm just gonna spend the next 24 hours ranting about shit. I'm not going to bed yet because I rant better when I'm drunk. I'm over my bad beat now, but I can rant about, I dunno, 9/11? Anyone actually believe the crap they're told on TV about that shit? I fucking don't. As if three buildings fall at near terminal velocity because of a poxy kerosene fire. Who actually believes that shit? Most of the moronic human population, that's who. And yeah, I can accept that when a plane hits a building and explodes, and the building collapses, that the only thing that remains intact is a fucking passport "proving" the pilot was a fucking terrorist from Muslimikstan.

Bunch of gullible fucking idiots.

[Shotglass]

where's muslimikstan? I wanna make sure I avoid it.

[Shotglass]

I'm not going to bed yet because I rant better when I'm drunk.

is this the new drunk thread on FTR?

[OngBonga]

is this the new drunk thread on FTR?

It can be. You wanna cyber?

[OngBonga]

Sorry that was inappropriate, I take it back.

[wufwugy]

hey shotty wanna cyber

[OngBonga]

Hey wuf's sig, wanna cyber?

[wufwugy]

thats me homey

[wufwugy]

shotty is the last wolf after gator fyi

100%

[wufwugy]

forgive me for grunching this day. i did it quite hard, so i dont have anything to say on recent stuff

but i went over a bunch of shotty stuff, was gonna quote and stuff but waaaaay too clumpy. synopsis is


she has made a TON of cases for why she bolded me, but all different at different times. normally somebody gets an idea or two and runs with it, but she has made so many different unrelated cases against me that they just cant be legitimate. and a full game day after the wuf lynch day, she out of the blue makes a brand new and enormous case against me, but then doesnt mention it again, and shortly thereafter puts me in her villager camp

in early game, she said she bets i wont respond to accusations until im leading in lynch votes nicely, and a little later she said ive been known for sacrificing a wolf for immunity. i think she thought the former because benny told her i did it in the game i was a wolf, and she thought the latter because she misinterpreted what benny and gator claim about what they think i would do as a wolf. this is her second game, and i feel like she has too many relevant ideas for nubness

imo the pool is not that large to find the last wolf after gator. supa is my other main pick, but i also think he has been too legit "not trying to trick people" in his posts. i mean supa bolded me the first go around because he was drunk and thought i was taking a shot at him or something

at first i had shotty as a villager because she seemed to have many very genuine actions, but ive come to realize she never stuck to any guns and is just masquerading. also, i think shotty going after lolz is something gator would come up with. it is a big deal that gator has been mentioning supa all game and supa has gone after him, but i think its the legit clever gator to do one step beyond that






so running down the line

bikes - scanned villager

gator - wolf

hoopy - trained by bigred and very nearly lynched. soooooo unlikely this happens if hes a wolf

lolz - medium

bonge - if hes a wolf hes the best ever. he had a hardon for me and put it all on the line. hes making genuine cases against people and running fast on them. hes playing exactly the way i did in my first games when i wanted to be a baller soulreader

ragnar - im irked by this whole coinflip thing, but there are problems with him playing the way he has if hes a wolf, and its not how he normally plays wolf. if we're too wrong on other choices though, he has to go. i fucked up in not getting him modkilled on philly lynch day imo

tlr - hes like gator in that he could always be a wolf cuz hes barely catchable, but i feel like hes been a wee bit too absent for some important gameplay




also part of me feels like the wolves will not nom the medium and are going to try to win the game by getting the wrong medium lynched and have two remaining wolves instead of getting down to just one. its all good though since gator is clearly the fake medium. he woulda played a bunch of stuff differently if he was the real medium. hell if gator was the real medium i think he would have outed himself in order to convince the angel to protect gabe. regardless, gator-medium would have outed earlier, wouldn't have posted some mistakes he has, and would be much more adamant against lolz on this day.

[TLR]

We have a group of 2 people out of which one is a wolf, the more they are alive and posting the more info we get once they die.
If the wolves do not go for the medium tonight then we get more info by virtue of the lookup, we still have enough breathing room to wait and get more info, I really do not understand why half the village want to deprive us of this info - I understand why the wolves want to do it, but not why the villagers do

Lets run the worst case scanrio for us if we dont lynch Gator/Lolzzz tonight
- we lynch a villager
- wolves eat a villager (we are at 6-2)
- we lynch the real medium
- wolves lynch a villager (we are at 4-2)
- we lynch the known wolf
- last wolf eats a villager

we are at 3-1 with some info of the medium lookup, we need not to screw this up at the last day

In all other scenarios that can happen we gain much more by letting the medium live another night.

As I said before I dont think the wolves can afford to not eat the medium and give us another lookup - if one the real medium finds a wolf it is game over for them.

[Shotglass]

she has made a TON of cases for why she bolded me, but all different at different times. normally somebody gets an idea or two and runs with it,

So what. I'm a noob and I'm blonde

this is her second game, and i feel like she has too many relevant ideas for nubness

already told y'all in the last game I played that I read through A LOT of the previous games

at first i had shotty as a villager because she seemed to have many very genuine actions, but ive come to realize she never stuck to any guns and is just masquerading.

So what. I'm a noob and I'm blonde. Plus I allready answered this when Ongbonga accused me of it

also, i think shotty going after lolz is something gator would come up with.

So, I can't think for myself? I'm just mad because lolzzz got us to snap lynch philly. Don't you think that the real medium would have at least been honest enough to say, "sorry, no lookup last night but this is what I think"

it is a big deal that gator has been mentioning supa all game and supa has gone after him, but i think its the legit clever gator to do one step beyond that

To answer both you and Ongbonga, I flipped to supa because I believe that lolzzz is lying, again; that gator is the medium, for reasons that I wrote earlier and would rather see a flip than an outright lynch

so running down the line

bikes - scanned villager not scanned, but prolly villager

gator - wolf I doubt it

hoopy - trained by bigred and very nearly lynched. soooooo unlikely this happens if hes a wolf

lolz - medium lying wolf

Also,

It can be. You wanna cyber?

hey shotty wanna cyber

WTF!
@ Ong - there's your answer about why I hid my online status