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 Originally Posted by OngBonga
I do agree with you wuf when it comes to faith though. I "know" water is made of hydrogen and oxygen. That too is a statement of faith, since I can't demonstrate this assertion as fact, I can only point you in the direction of respected scientists who agree, and there's a lot of them! I can't even prove a ripe banana is yellow, you have to accept my definition of yellow before you can accept this is the colour of a ripe banana. All of our beliefs are based on faith, it's just some beliefs require a greater leap of faith than others.
You're referring to a sort of microcosm of what I'm talking about.
Everything is an assumption. EVERYTHING. Break epistemology down into it's most basic form and you get us going "well we assume mathematics are accurate, we assume the physical universe is physical, etc). All knowledge is based in assumption at its deepest level. We can't actually prove math. We can only assume that two plus two equals four. In order to prove it, we would require absolute knowledge, but absolute knowledge is not even possible in the first place. So every bit of knowledge we have, even though it is flawless, it's based on assumptions at its deepest level
So when you're assuming scientists are right about water, they're assuming the universe isn't lying to them
This should not be equivocated with normal everyday things. Everything about our lives depends on those assumptions being true, and so far they have been. And I don't think it's possible for humans to understand the deepest reality I'm trying to explain. That also fits into my idea that the most fundamental is itself senseless and unidentifiable
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