Quote Originally Posted by pocketfours View Post
This play makes no sense. Why do you call pre if you want to fold now? Are you hoping that you hit AND he gives up? Seems incredibly optimistic to me.

I would 5bet and get it in pre without much thought. You can of course just fold pre if you want to wait for aces.

First, 5betting pre may be marginally +EV but its laughable to think that he's going to spew off something worse than were flipping with here. Unless the guy is truly a dutch MANIAC!! I don't see anything wrong with calling in this situation. It's not like we know for absolute fact he is going to 3 barrel everytime. If that was the case 5betting AA/KK would be laughable.
On the same note, can't someone be 4betting light here pre and NOT be a total aggro spewtard postflop who is capable of 3 barrel bluffing here? To call down simply because its not exploitable is fine I suppose since no reads are given but at the same time I never really expect my opponents to exploit me by bluffing a wide enough range in this spot. MAYBE I'm not used to the crazy world of 25/50 3 max games?