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  1. #1

    Default Punishing the fish!

    *********** # 7 **************
    PokerStars Game #1660751247: Omaha Pot Limit ($1/$2) - 2005/05/08 - 17:19:19
    (ET)
    Table 'Metsahovi' Seat #4 is the button
    Seat 3: moongirl78 ($137.30 in chips)
    Seat 4: allLiving ($450.60 in chips)
    Seat 6: littlejapes ($108.25 in chips)
    Seat 7: tykoshi ($18.50 in chips)
    littlejapes: posts small blind $1
    tykoshi: posts big blind $2
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to allLiving [As Tc Td 8d]
    moongirl78: raises $2 to $4
    allLiving: calls $4
    littlejapes: calls $3
    tykoshi: calls $2
    *** FLOP *** [4d 8c 3h]
    littlejapes: checks
    tykoshi: bets $14.50 and is all-in
    moongirl78: calls $14.50
    allLiving: calls $14.50
    littlejapes: folds
    *** TURN *** [4d 8c 3h] [Ad]
    moongirl78: checks
    allLiving: checks
    *** RIVER *** [4d 8c 3h Ad] [3d]
    moongirl78: bets $12
    allLiving: calls $12
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    moongirl78: shows [7s 7c 5d 9d] (a flush, Ace high)
    allLiving: shows [As Tc Td 8d] (a flush, Ace high - Ten higher)
    allLiving collected $24 from side pot
    tykoshi: shows [7h 4h Qd 8h] (two pair, Eights and Fours)
    allLiving collected $57.50 from main pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot $83.50 Main pot $57.50. Side pot $24. | Rake $2
    Board [4d 8c 3h Ad 3d]
    Seat 3: moongirl78 showed [7s 7c 5d 9d] and lost with a flush, Ace high
    Seat 4: allLiving (button) showed [As Tc Td 8d] and won ($81.50) with a flush,
    Ace high
    Seat 6: littlejapes (small blind) folded on the Flop
    Seat 7: tykoshi (big blind) showed [7h 4h Qd 8h] and lost with two pair, Eights
    and Fours

    I played this hand a little loosely, but i was pretty sure I was ahead of both the players on the flop, and had some backdoor outs.

    *********** # 11 **************
    PokerStars Game #1660735775: Omaha Pot Limit ($1/$2) - 2005/05/08 - 17:16:33
    (ET)
    Table 'Metsahovi' Seat #4 is the button
    Seat 3: moongirl78 ($98 in chips)
    Seat 4: allLiving ($297.95 in chips)
    Seat 5: ASSOSRIGAS ($138.95 in chips)
    Seat 6: littlejapes ($146.25 in chips)
    Seat 7: tykoshi ($38.50 in chips)
    ASSOSRIGAS: posts small blind $1
    littlejapes: posts big blind $2
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to allLiving [9s Kc 4d 9c]
    tykoshi: calls $2
    moongirl78: folds
    allLiving: calls $2
    ASSOSRIGAS: calls $1
    littlejapes: raises $2 to $4
    tykoshi: calls $2
    allLiving: calls $2
    ASSOSRIGAS: calls $2
    *** FLOP *** [6c 9h 2s]
    ASSOSRIGAS: checks
    littlejapes: bets $4
    tykoshi: calls $4
    allLiving: raises $27.20 to $31.20
    ASSOSRIGAS: calls $31.20
    littlejapes: folds
    tykoshi: folds
    *** TURN *** [6c 9h 2s] [5c]
    ASSOSRIGAS: bets $60
    allLiving: raises $202.75 to $262.75 and is all-in
    ASSOSRIGAS: calls $43.75 and is all-in
    *** RIVER *** [6c 9h 2s 5c] [Tc]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    ASSOSRIGAS: shows [3h 2d Td 2h] (three of a kind, Deuces)
    allLiving: shows [9s Kc 4d 9c] (a flush, King high)
    allLiving collected $291.90 from pot

    This is as simple as it gets. Most of the time, my opponent isn't calling this huge re-raise with a gutshot, so my re-raise on the turn was a safe bet! Too bad this guy overvalues his bottom set, it was obvious that he was beat, and he couldn't draw to a higher hand, but I could.

    *********** # 22 **************
    PokerStars Game #1660695807: Omaha Pot Limit ($1/$2) - 2005/05/08 - 17:09:20
    (ET)
    Table 'Metsahovi' Seat #3 is the button
    Seat 3: moongirl78 ($180.20 in chips)
    Seat 4: allLiving ($173.60 in chips)
    Seat 5: Fossy1971 ($48 in chips)
    Seat 6: littlejapes ($81.15 in chips)
    allLiving: posts small blind $1
    Fossy1971: posts big blind $2
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to allLiving [5c Ah 8h Ad]
    littlejapes: raises $2 to $4
    moongirl78: folds
    allLiving: calls $3
    Fossy1971: raises $2 to $6
    littlejapes: calls $2
    allLiving: calls $2
    *** FLOP *** [9h Th 3h]
    allLiving: checks
    Fossy1971: bets $2
    littlejapes: raises $2 to $4
    allLiving: raises $11 to $15
    Fossy1971: calls $13
    littlejapes: calls $11
    *** TURN *** [9h Th 3h] [6d]
    allLiving: bets $61
    Fossy1971: calls $27 and is all-in
    littlejapes: calls $60.15 and is all-in
    *** RIVER *** [9h Th 3h 6d] [2h]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    allLiving: shows [5c Ah 8h Ad] (a flush, Ace high)
    littlejapes: mucks hand
    allLiving collected $66.30 from side pot
    Fossy1971: mucks hand
    allLiving collected $142 from main pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot $210.30 Main pot $142. Side pot $66.30. | Rake $2
    Board [9h Th 3h 6d 2h]
    Seat 3: moongirl78 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 4: allLiving (small blind) showed [5c Ah 8h Ad] and won ($208.30) with a
    flush, Ace high
    Seat 5: Fossy1971 (big blind) mucked [Qs Qh 9s 4h]
    Seat 6: littlejapes mucked [Ks 5h Kh 2s]

    There is no reason for me to re-raise with AAxx in my hand since that will give away my hand strength, and AA is easily beaten in omaha. The flop and turn play was an obvious play. Good thing both my opponents overvalued their shitty flushes and I had the best of it the whole way!"

    PocketFives - allLiving
    Pokerstars - [595-ESCAPE]
  2. #2
    *********** # 5 **************
    PokerStars Game #1661176809: Omaha Pot Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2005/05/08 -
    18:33:58 (ET)
    Table 'Archid III' Seat #6 is the button
    Seat 2: giggie ($40 in chips)
    Seat 3: zabaks ($33.30 in chips)
    Seat 4: mausibaer2 ($34.20 in chips)
    Seat 5: un1que ($20 in chips)
    Seat 6: allLiving ($133.50 in chips)
    Seat 7: dyah ($59.95 in chips)
    Seat 9: benjamin_O ($19 in chips)
    dyah: posts small blind $0.50
    benjamin_O: posts big blind $1
    giggie: posts big blind $1
    un1que: posts big blind $1
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to allLiving [Ts 5s 5d Td]
    aralston9 joins the table at seat #1
    Barmo has returned
    giggie: raises $2 to $3
    zabaks: folds
    mausibaer2: calls $3
    un1que: calls $2
    allLiving: calls $3
    dyah: folds
    benjamin_O: calls $2
    *** FLOP *** [5h 5c 9c]
    benjamin_O: checks
    giggie: bets $4
    mausibaer2: folds
    un1que: calls $4
    allLiving: calls $4
    benjamin_O: calls $4
    *** TURN *** [5h 5c 9c] [3h]
    benjamin_O: checks
    giggie: bets $12
    un1que: calls $12
    allLiving: calls $12
    benjamin_O: folds
    *** RIVER *** [5h 5c 9c 3h] [2d]
    giggie: checks
    un1que: bets $1 and is all-in
    allLiving: raises $24 to $25
    giggie: calls $21 and is all-in
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    allLiving: shows [Ts 5s 5d Td] (four of a kind, Fives)
    giggie: mucks hand
    allLiving collected $40 from side pot
    un1que: mucks hand
    giggie leaves the table
    benjamin_O said, "nh"
    allLiving collected $67.50 from main pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot $110.50 Main pot $67.50. Side pot $40. | Rake $3
    Board [5h 5c 9c 3h 2d]
    Seat 2: giggie mucked [4d Kd Ks 2h]
    Seat 3: zabaks folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 4: mausibaer2 folded on the Flop
    Seat 5: un1que mucked [Tc 9d 4c 9h]
    Seat 6: allLiving (button) showed [Ts 5s 5d Td] and won ($107.50) with four of a
    kind, Fives
    Seat 7: dyah (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 9: benjamin_O (big blind) folded on the Turn

    DUH!!

    PocketFives - allLiving
    Pokerstars - [595-ESCAPE]
  3. #3
    Here is how you SHOULDN'T PLAY. I got lucky.
    Transcript for your last 5 games requested by allLiving ([email protected])
    *********** # 1 **************
    PokerStars Game #1661744981: Omaha Pot Limit ($1/$2) - 2005/05/08 - 20:09:16
    (ET)
    Table 'Gezelle' Seat #6 is the button
    Seat 1: Yello man ($64.45 in chips)
    Seat 2: PACO P ($58.60 in chips)
    Seat 3: DAVID971 ($455.95 in chips)
    Seat 4: allLiving ($183.50 in chips)
    Seat 6: ONLY_NUTS ($28 in chips)
    Seat 8: tylergf ($327.25 in chips)
    Seat 9: roadruner01 ($105.50 in chips)
    tylergf: posts small blind $1
    roadruner01: posts big blind $2
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to allLiving [Js Ts 4s Kd]
    didiwo joins the table at seat #5
    Yello man: calls $2
    didiwo leaves the table
    PACO P: calls $2
    DAVID971: calls $2
    allLiving: calls $2
    didiwo joins the table at seat #5
    ONLY_NUTS: folds
    tylergf: folds
    roadruner01: checks
    *** FLOP *** [8s 2s Qd]
    roadruner01: checks
    Yello man: checks
    PACO P: checks
    DAVID971: checks
    allLiving: checks
    *** TURN *** [8s 2s Qd] [Td]
    roadruner01: checks
    Yello man: bets $10
    PACO P: raises $10 to $20
    DAVID971: folds
    allLiving: calls $20
    roadruner01: folds
    Yello man: raises $42.45 to $62.45 and is all-in
    PACO P: calls $36.60 and is all-in
    allLiving: calls $42.45
    *** RIVER *** [8s 2s Qd Td] [Ah]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    Yello man: shows [Qc 7c Jd 9h] (a straight, Eight to Queen)
    allLiving: shows [Js Ts 4s Kd] (a straight, Ten to Ace)
    allLiving collected $11.70 from side pot
    PACO P: mucks hand
    allLiving collected $177.80 from main pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot $192.50 Main pot $177.80. Side pot $11.70. | Rake $3
    Board [8s 2s Qd Td Ah]
    Seat 1: Yello man showed [Qc 7c Jd 9h] and lost with a straight, Eight to Queen
    Seat 2: PACO P mucked [9d 7h Jh 6s]
    Seat 3: DAVID971 folded on the Turn
    Seat 4: allLiving showed [Js Ts 4s Kd] and won ($189.50) with a straight, Ten to
    Ace
    Seat 6: ONLY_NUTS (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 8: tylergf (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 9: roadruner01 (big blind) folded on the Turn

    Nice turnout however.

    PocketFives - allLiving
    Pokerstars - [595-ESCAPE]
  4. #4
    DoGGz Guest
    First of all why are you playing so many bad hands? This hand sucks preflop.

    Given that on the river you have 14 outs. If you are only holding 2 spades and the nut flush instead of the the K flush I make this play. 42$ to win $190. If you just win 25% of the time you have to make this call.

    Quote Originally Posted by allLiving
    Here is how you SHOULDN'T PLAY. I got lucky.
    Transcript for your last 5 games requested by allLiving ([email protected])
    *********** # 1 **************
    PokerStars Game #1661744981: Omaha Pot Limit ($1/$2) - 2005/05/08 - 20:09:16
    (ET)
    Table 'Gezelle' Seat #6 is the button
    Seat 1: Yello man ($64.45 in chips)
    Seat 2: PACO P ($58.60 in chips)
    Seat 3: DAVID971 ($455.95 in chips)
    Seat 4: allLiving ($183.50 in chips)
    Seat 6: ONLY_NUTS ($28 in chips)
    Seat 8: tylergf ($327.25 in chips)
    Seat 9: roadruner01 ($105.50 in chips)
    tylergf: posts small blind $1
    roadruner01: posts big blind $2
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to allLiving [Js Ts 4s Kd]
    didiwo joins the table at seat #5
    Yello man: calls $2
    didiwo leaves the table
    PACO P: calls $2
    DAVID971: calls $2
    allLiving: calls $2
    didiwo joins the table at seat #5
    ONLY_NUTS: folds
    tylergf: folds
    roadruner01: checks
    *** FLOP *** [8s 2s Qd]
    roadruner01: checks
    Yello man: checks
    PACO P: checks
    DAVID971: checks
    allLiving: checks
    *** TURN *** [8s 2s Qd] [Td]
    roadruner01: checks
    Yello man: bets $10
    PACO P: raises $10 to $20
    DAVID971: folds
    allLiving: calls $20
    roadruner01: folds
    Yello man: raises $42.45 to $62.45 and is all-in
    PACO P: calls $36.60 and is all-in
    allLiving: calls $42.45
    *** RIVER *** [8s 2s Qd Td] [Ah]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    Yello man: shows [Qc 7c Jd 9h] (a straight, Eight to Queen)
    allLiving: shows [Js Ts 4s Kd] (a straight, Ten to Ace)
    allLiving collected $11.70 from side pot
    PACO P: mucks hand
    allLiving collected $177.80 from main pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot $192.50 Main pot $177.80. Side pot $11.70. | Rake $3
    Board [8s 2s Qd Td Ah]
    Seat 1: Yello man showed [Qc 7c Jd 9h] and lost with a straight, Eight to Queen
    Seat 2: PACO P mucked [9d 7h Jh 6s]
    Seat 3: DAVID971 folded on the Turn
    Seat 4: allLiving showed [Js Ts 4s Kd] and won ($189.50) with a straight, Ten to
    Ace
    Seat 6: ONLY_NUTS (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 8: tylergf (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 9: roadruner01 (big blind) folded on the Turn

    Nice turnout however.
  5. #5
    DoGGz Guest

    Default Re: Punishing the fish!

    Be happy you are playing against fish, no good player makes this move. There's a straight to be had, he could have quad 2's. And don't say he wouldn't play those cards because look at the trash you are playing.

    Fold that crap before it gets you caught.

    Quote Originally Posted by allLiving
    *********** # 11 **************
    PokerStars Game #1660735775: Omaha Pot Limit ($1/$2) - 2005/05/08 - 17:16:33
    (ET)
    Table 'Metsahovi' Seat #4 is the button
    Seat 3: moongirl78 ($98 in chips)
    Seat 4: allLiving ($297.95 in chips)
    Seat 5: ASSOSRIGAS ($138.95 in chips)
    Seat 6: littlejapes ($146.25 in chips)
    Seat 7: tykoshi ($38.50 in chips)
    ASSOSRIGAS: posts small blind $1
    littlejapes: posts big blind $2
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to allLiving [9s Kc 4d 9c]
    tykoshi: calls $2
    moongirl78: folds
    allLiving: calls $2
    ASSOSRIGAS: calls $1
    littlejapes: raises $2 to $4
    tykoshi: calls $2
    allLiving: calls $2
    ASSOSRIGAS: calls $2
    *** FLOP *** [6c 9h 2s]
    ASSOSRIGAS: checks
    littlejapes: bets $4
    tykoshi: calls $4
    allLiving: raises $27.20 to $31.20
    ASSOSRIGAS: calls $31.20
    littlejapes: folds
    tykoshi: folds
    *** TURN *** [6c 9h 2s] [5c]
    ASSOSRIGAS: bets $60
    allLiving: raises $202.75 to $262.75 and is all-in
    ASSOSRIGAS: calls $43.75 and is all-in
    *** RIVER *** [6c 9h 2s 5c] [Tc]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    ASSOSRIGAS: shows [3h 2d Td 2h] (three of a kind, Deuces)
    allLiving: shows [9s Kc 4d 9c] (a flush, King high)
    allLiving collected $291.90 from pot

    This is as simple as it gets. Most of the time, my opponent isn't calling this huge re-raise with a gutshot, so my re-raise on the turn was a safe bet! Too bad this guy overvalues his bottom set, it was obvious that he was beat, and he couldn't draw to a higher hand, but I could.
  6. #6
    DoGGz Guest

    Default Re: Punishing the fish!

    Don't under estimate all your opponents. On the turn when you moved AI there are 13 cards in the deck for you to win. 2 Aces, 3 Sevens and 9 flush cards. There is no way you are winning on the turn.

    Question, how often do you play omaha on Stars? How many hands/week? How profitable are you?

    Quote Originally Posted by allLiving
    *********** # 22 **************
    PokerStars Game #1660695807: Omaha Pot Limit ($1/$2) - 2005/05/08 - 17:09:20
    (ET)
    Table 'Metsahovi' Seat #3 is the button
    Seat 3: moongirl78 ($180.20 in chips)
    Seat 4: allLiving ($173.60 in chips)
    Seat 5: Fossy1971 ($48 in chips)
    Seat 6: littlejapes ($81.15 in chips)
    allLiving: posts small blind $1
    Fossy1971: posts big blind $2
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to allLiving [5c Ah 8h Ad]
    littlejapes: raises $2 to $4
    moongirl78: folds
    allLiving: calls $3
    Fossy1971: raises $2 to $6
    littlejapes: calls $2
    allLiving: calls $2
    *** FLOP *** [9h Th 3h]
    allLiving: checks
    Fossy1971: bets $2
    littlejapes: raises $2 to $4
    allLiving: raises $11 to $15
    Fossy1971: calls $13
    littlejapes: calls $11
    *** TURN *** [9h Th 3h] [6d]
    allLiving: bets $61
    Fossy1971: calls $27 and is all-in
    littlejapes: calls $60.15 and is all-in
    *** RIVER *** [9h Th 3h 6d] [2h]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    allLiving: shows [5c Ah 8h Ad] (a flush, Ace high)
    littlejapes: mucks hand
    allLiving collected $66.30 from side pot
    Fossy1971: mucks hand
    allLiving collected $142 from main pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot $210.30 Main pot $142. Side pot $66.30. | Rake $2
    Board [9h Th 3h 6d 2h]
    Seat 3: moongirl78 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 4: allLiving (small blind) showed [5c Ah 8h Ad] and won ($208.30) with a
    flush, Ace high
    Seat 5: Fossy1971 (big blind) mucked [Qs Qh 9s 4h]
    Seat 6: littlejapes mucked [Ks 5h Kh 2s]

    There is no reason for me to re-raise with AAxx in my hand since that will give away my hand strength, and AA is easily beaten in omaha. The flop and turn play was an obvious play. Good thing both my opponents overvalued their shitty flushes and I had the best of it the whole way!"

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