Let's play A8 offsoot

[Fnord]

Limper is a loose/passive donator
Button is tight
Blinds are tight

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Fnord is CO with A, 8.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, 4 folds, Fnord raises, 3 folds, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (5.33 SB) T, A, K (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Fnord bets, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (3.66 BB) 9 (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Fnord bets, UTG+1 calls.

River: (5.66 BB) 2 (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Fnord bets (planning to fold to a raise)...

[Shark Bait]

Why fold to a river raise? You think he's slow playing or maybe got 2 pair on the river? His check calling says a pair of tens or kings to me.

btw, where are all the hands where you raise preflop with poop and MISS?

[Fnord]

btw, where are all the hands where you raise preflop with poop and MISS?

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Fnord is CO with Q, 9.
6 folds, Fnord raises, 2 folds, BB calls.

Flop: (4.33 SB) T, 7, 2 (2 players)
BB checks, Fnord bets, BB folds.

Final Pot: 2.66 BB

[Shark Bait]

hehehe

what about the other half of the time, when the other guy bets first? Do you get out then, or do you continue with the agressive stance? I guess "it depends." You seem to be waaaay more of a player that plays against the other players, not your cards vs their cards.

[stuck]

You seem to be waaaay more of a player that plays against the other players, not your cards vs their cards.

It's a really important skill to learn. Play enough hands and you'll eventually figure it out. It's only something that can be learned through practice, as far as I know.

[Fnord]

I don't do this often. I played 2k hands today, and maybe 12 tops look like these...

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Fnord is CO with 9, K.
4 folds, MP3 calls, Fnord raises, 3 folds, MP3 calls.

Flop: (5.33 SB) 3, 3, 7 (2 players)
MP3 checks, Fnord bets, MP3 calls.

Turn: (3.66 BB) J (2 players)
MP3 checks, Fnord bets, MP3 raises, Fnord folds.

Final Pot: 6.66 BB

[Room]

A8o - I'm assuming he did raise, but why would you fold to a raise? How did the river change the board? The only other 1 pair hands that beat you are AQ AJ.

[Phyl]

All good with reads.

[pokerfanatic]

You mean a hand like this one: when Fnord c/r the turn I know I’m in trouble, I had him on a draw on the flop but then the c/r told me I was in serious trouble and needed a suck out, I called the river mainly as a crying call...

converter

Preflop: pkrfanatic is CO with Q, 9.
2 folds, pkrfanatic raises, 2 folds, BB (Fnord)/ 3-bets, pkrfanatic calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) Q, 4, 5 (2 players)
Fnord bets, pkrfanatic raises, Fnord 3-bets, pkrfanatic caps, Fnord calls.

Turn: (7.25 BB) 8 (2 players)
Fnord checks, pkrfanatic bets, Fnord raises, pkrfanatic calls.

River: (11.25 BB) 4 (2 players)
Fnord bets, pkrfanatic calls.

Final Pot: 13.25 BB

[Fnord]

A8o - I'm assuming he did raise, but why would you fold to a raise? How did the river change the board? The only other 1 pair hands that beat you are AQ AJ.

How often does a loose/passive twit check/raise the river with a worse hand? I doubt it's more than 5%.