Would you shove against this maniac?

Ultra aggressive villain to this point. No other reads or info.

Hand Converted by Ace Poker Drills Poker Training Software
NL Holdem $1(BB) Replayer
SB ($104)
BB ($231)
UTG ($101)
UTG+1 ($145)
CO ($272)
Hero ($107)

Dealt to Hero T T

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $2.87, fold, BB raises to $7.55, Hero raises to $22, BB calls $14.45

FLOP ($44.50) 4 2 8

[color=red]BB checks, Hero bets $30, BB raises to $60

What exactly are you asking? You want to fold now?

stick it in. if you're not comfortable putting the $ in with an overpair on an un-connected, twotone flop in a 4b pot against this guy then i'd probably take some other line which doesn't bloat the pot so much. we can't afford to build pots to this size with this much relative/absolute hand strength against an ultra aggressive opponent only to debate folding our equity.

I'd call, you'd be surprised how often this is a bluff.

Way out of my league but I'd be shoving if the guy is an aggro maniac. Has the advantage of meaning no more hard decisions for the hand too.

There won't be any more hard decisions if you call.

dont see how you can do anything but call and call turn

Thanks for the feedback. Here are the results of the hand.
BB checks, Hero bets $30, BB raises to $60, Hero raises to $85.02 (AI), BB calls $25.02

TURN ($214) 4 2 8 2

RIVER ($214) 4 2 8 2 Q

Hero shows T T
(Pre 83%, Flop 8.6%, Turn 4.5%)

BB shows 8 8
(Pre 17%, Flop 91.4%, Turn 95.5%)

BB wins $211

I would've either practised some degree of pot control here pre flop (being afraid of JJ+) and reevaluate action or shoved preflop (if you have a read that this super aggro guy is overplaying small pairs and/or big cards).

As played, jam flop.

nh ul no need to be 'afraid' of JJ+ here esp with these positions

nobody cares about the results but you and it's counter productive for good discussion. i would disagree with call and call turn, i'd expect that anything he'd jam the turn with for 25$ into a 160$ pot he would call a jam with on the flop. i really think you're going to lose a ton of value by checking to him on the turn and have him check it back and then have a weird river roll off and not stack his 55/A3/etc. All of which certainly stack off on the flop. Not to mention any hand that has a semblance of equity is getting it in on the flop including hands like broadways.

Originally Posted by reDZill4

nobody cares about the results but you and it's counter productive for good discussion. i would disagree with call and call turn, i'd expect that anything he'd jam the turn with for 25$ into a 160$ pot he would call a jam with on the flop. i really think you're going to lose a ton of value by checking to him on the turn and have him check it back and then have a weird river roll off and not stack his 55/A3/etc. All of which certainly stack off on the flop. Not to mention any hand that has a semblance of equity is getting it in on the flop including hands like broadways.

we're IP yo. if he checks the turn we can jam

right. well played bikes.

his minraise commits like 80% of starting stacks, just stick the rest in as fast as you can and move on

I would, in fact, pretty much discount JJ+ here --- it's BTN vs. blinds with "ultra-aggressive villain" and most of the time he's getting those in pre.

there actually couldnt be an easier bet/call. if somehow this werent a bet/call, then your 4bet would be atrocious