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NL $50 - low flush OOP facing All-in on the river

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    Default NL $50 - low flush OOP facing All-in on the river

    Party No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) - Party Converter Tool from

    BB ($70)
    CO ($58.20)
    Hero (MP) ($52.96)
    SB ($19)
    Button ($51.78)
    UTG ($58.84)

    Preflop: Hero is MP with 7, 8
    1 fold, Hero raises $2, CO calls $2, Button calls $2, 2 folds

    Flop: ($6.75) K, 10, Q (3 players)
    Hero bets $4.78, CO calls $4.78, 1 fold

    Turn: ($16.31) Q (2 players)
    Hero bets $11.58, CO raises $27.50, Hero calls $15.92

    River: ($71.31) 7 (2 players)
    Hero checks, CO bets $23.92 (All-In)

    Total pot: $71.31

    Results below:
    Spoiler:

    Hero had 7, 8 (flush, King high).
    CO didn't show
    Outcome: Hero won $71.31


    Preflop
    I open for deception as my image is clean-tight FWIW.

    Flop
    Obvious this flop hits my percieved range hard and I cbetas a semibluff,
    because I have a lot folding equity and is I make a flush on the turn it's quity disguised.
    If I'am raised here my plan is to call, because if the third heart comes,
    then my hand look like a mediore hand I want to get to showdown with i.e.
    a hand like


    Turn
    I fire the second barrel basically to keep initiative, keep V. guessing and represent flushes or full houses(and one combo of quads FWIW), V. raises and I call,
    because I would call my entire range here flushes and full houses always. I definitely that my call here on the turn is +EV, because Villain have to worry
    (if he his thinking a little bit about my range here for calling his raise OOP is extremly strong and if he his a level one thinker my hand again look like a hand
    I would like to go to showdown with/see a cheap river with, hands like AhJx, JJ, KTs, AJ etc.


    River
    River is a blank so I check to always in this spot to check call, because if Villain bet/shoves the river he is doing with:
    Hands I beat17) Hands that beat me4)

    AJo (12) TT(3)
    KTs (3) QQ(1)
    QJs (2)

    I´m getting 4.8:1 so easy call?
    Though apreciated thx in advance
    capua
  2. #2
    Welcome to FTR Capua.

    I think there are a lot of errors in your logic and line post-flop. Assuming villain is standard TAG (we really need some stats/reads btw):

    The flop hits your opponents' range hard. If you are going to bet, your sizing is therefore too big.

    On the turn, you are realistically ahead nearly 100% of the time given villain didn't raise this flop texture. Villain is Qx, Ah with a pair, nfd and gut shot and some AJ, so why would you flat the turn raise given these stacks and then also potentally let villain nit up the river with Qx and AJ?
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    Yr combos for river are way off.
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    I'm not fist pumping on river, but given price you gotta call it off.

    I assume that most Axhh, Jxhh and even 9xhh would raise flop some significant % of time given they are combo draws. So that doesn't leave too many flushes.

    I guess I'm calling and hoping he's spazzing with Qx or some other nonsense.
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    I think you over bet the flop with your flush draw and probably gave the villian the impression you were betting on a straight or two pair at that stage. I think he is calling with a similar hand. When you check the River I am thinking he is bluffing and trying to win the pot by making you think he has got the flush. Given the pot size by this time I do not see how you cannot make the call. Maybe you did. I will now go back and check and see what really happened.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom1559 View Post
    I think you over bet the flop with your flush draw and probably gave the villian the impression you were betting on a straight or two pair at that stage. I think he is calling with a similar hand. When you check the River I am thinking he is bluffing and trying to win the pot by making you think he has got the flush. Given the pot size by this time I do not see how you cannot make the call. Maybe you did. I will now go back and check and see what really happened.
    Good call Capua. Well done.
    Scottish Cowboy
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bean Counter View Post
    Welcome to FTR Capua.

    I think there are a lot of errors in your logic and line post-flop. Assuming villain is standard TAG (we really need some stats/reads btw):

    The flop hits your opponents' range hard. If you are going to bet, your sizing is therefore too big.

    On the turn, you are realistically ahead nearly 100% of the time given villain didn't raise this flop texture. Villain is Qx, Ah with a pair, nfd and gut shot and some AJ, so why would you flat the turn raise given these stacks and then also potentally let villain nit up the river with Qx and AJ?
    Thx.. During playing the hand my plan was to make V. think I could have the range you mentioned in your post, but I guess if we raises this range he will also call a 3b shove with a similiar range that I'am ahead of?
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    have 0 desire to fold river after calling turn. still not thrilled with calling river whatsoever.

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