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KJs considering nitting up a river.

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  1. #1

    Default KJs considering nitting up a river.

    Villian is a reg I don't have any history with. So far he's c-bet 4 times out of 4. BB is a fish who seems pretty passive. I go for a c/r on the flop.

    This is horribly unbalanced as I never play Tx this way. I'm counting on the fact that most regs at 100NL are straight forward enough to shrug fold all their air here any way and some don't even make this assumption in the first place. I don't care that my range is just air as long as he doesn't know this.

    I think just firing turn is probably better, perhaps getting him off some non trips/any floats he has here that aren't now spade draws. I decided to just c/f to normal sizing in game with it being a paired board, AsXs being quite a likely floating hands for him and yeah he has a lot of Tx combos.

    His turn sizing was a little scary, but this river sizing seems more like Tx than the nut flush or a boat. I am worried about raising though as these hands can still be in his range and I basically shouldn't have any air at all here so whether he can call a c/r with JT seems dubious. Who raises here, and if so, sizing?


    PokerStars - $1 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

    MP: 87.76 BB (VPIP: 24.10, PFR: 18.28, 3Bet Preflop: 7.33, Hands: 369)
    CO: 101.5 BB (VPIP: 20.47, PFR: 16.02, 3Bet Preflop: 6.87, Hands: 1,219)
    BTN: 129.8 BB (VPIP: 44.83, PFR: 41.38, 3Bet Preflop: 9.09, Hands: 30)
    Hero (SB): 119.65 BB
    BB: 45.1 BB (VPIP: 26.09, PFR: 4.35, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 23)
    UTG: 101.5 BB (VPIP: 14.71, PFR: 11.76, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 37)

    Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

    Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K J

    fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 2.5 BB, Hero calls 2 BB, BB calls 1.5 BB

    Flop: (7.5 BB, 3 players) T 7 T
    Hero checks, BB checks, BTN bets 4 BB, Hero raises to 11 BB, fold, BTN calls 7 BB

    Turn: (29.5 BB, 2 players) 5
    Hero checks, BTN bets 8.22 BB, Hero calls 8.22 BB

    River: (45.94 BB, 2 players) Q
    Hero checks, BTN bets 17.75 BB, Hero?
    Last edited by Carroters; 09-11-2013 at 09:17 AM.
  2. #2
    Fire turn, he's calling flop fairly wide and should most non-T-hands up. What else are you supposed to do when you bluff with a bdfd and pick up the equity on the turn? On the river you can still rep 98 I guess and nobody puts you on a bdfd coming in.
  3. #3
    not betting this turn is like going on a climb up a very large mountain with plenty of food and water, then not eating or drinking any of it the entire climb and dying before you can finish.
  4. #4
    Haha, agreed guys. Turn is defo a bet, I have no idea why I chose to play the turn horribly. Any thoughts on river M2M?
  5. #5
    Definitely bet the turn and now after his turn/river sizing definitely c/bomb river.
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    I'd call river.


  7. #7
    yeah don't see why you guys wanna c/bomb river

    post a range and prove me otherwise
  8. #8
    I don't wanna c/bomb river here. Thought it was a call in game was wondering if anyone could convince me otherwise.
  9. #9
    Well our range looks at best Tx right now. I really don't see why a boat would size it like this and when people bet small they convince themselves they induced a bluff often and are less capable of folding.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jay-Z
    I'm a couple hands down and I'm tryin' to get back
    I gave the other grip, I lost a flip for five stacks
  10. #10
    River I like a call as played, like you said, you have no air and can't really get value from much.

    I think I bet the turn just because the equity I picked up gives me an excuse to continue spewing...
  11. #11
    Somebody please convince me that this sizing on turn/river is often a boat. Cause if it's not a boat... then I don't see why we're not c/bombing when I'd imagine he's heavy Tx. He's 44/41.. on the button...he has every Tx possible... sigh nits!
    Quote Originally Posted by Jay-Z
    I'm a couple hands down and I'm tryin' to get back
    I gave the other grip, I lost a flip for five stacks

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