gabe's big pots of the day thread

[gabe]

im about to start up a session, and instead of digging through poker tracker to fine interesting hands to post, i'm just gonna post it here everytime im involved in a big pot. this could be a bluff, me getting stacked, or me busting someone. im playing at least 1k hands, maybe even 3k, i dont know.

hope i run good!

[UG]

good luck young warrior



do us proud

[Alibi]

run g00t plz

[gabe]

bad start out the day making pushes with tptk

***** Hand History for Game 4163967506 *****
$600 NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, May 02, 14:05:53 ET 2006
Table Table 100978 (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 3: gunnpv ( $1598 )
Seat 4: MuckinAwful ( $568 )
Seat 2: galactical ( $739.82 )
Seat 5: MrMagicMan21 ( $418.30 )
Seat 6: HelpSlipFrnk ( $591 )
Seat 1: cu96jb ( $624 )
gunnpv posts small blind [$3].
MrMagicMan21 posts big blind [$6].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to galactical [ Tc Ah ]
>You have options at Table 96205 Table!.
HelpSlipFrnk folds.
cu96jb calls [$6].
galactical raises [$25].
gunnpv calls [$22].
>You have options at Table 95353 Table!.
MrMagicMan21 calls [$19].
>You have options at Lockington Table!.
cu96jb calls [$19].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 4c, Ts, 2h ]
>You have options at Table 105922 (No DP) Table!.
>You have options at Table 96205 Table!.
gunnpv checks.
MrMagicMan21 checks.
cu96jb checks.
galactical bets [$80].
gunnpv calls [$80].
>You have options at Lockington Table!.
>You have options at Table 95353 Table!.
MrMagicMan21 raises [$160].
cu96jb folds.
>You have options at Table 96205 Table!.
galactical is all-In [$634.82]
gunnpv folds.
MrMagicMan21 is all-In [$233.30]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 7d ]
>You have options at Table 105922 (No DP) Table!.
** Dealing River ** [ 3d ]
MrMagicMan21 shows [ 4d, 4s ] three of a kind, fours.
galactical shows [ Tc, Ah ] a pair of tens.
galactical wins $321.52 from side pot #1 with a pair of tens.
MrMagicMan21 wins $964.60 from the main pot with three of a kind, fours.

[gabe]

i play monsters like this alot and people always fold, so i figured id start bluffing with this one

***** Hand History for Game 4164030103 *****
$600 NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, May 02, 14:14:20 ET 2006
Table Reel Quiet (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 1: Ossehaas ( $1230 )
Seat 2: Capt_Tattoo ( $738.32 )
Seat 4: mackyp ( $600 )
Seat 5: el_pollo_loco ( $902.30 )
Seat 6: galactical ( $591 )
galactical posts small blind [$3].
Ossehaas posts big blind [$6].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to galactical [ 7c 7h ]
Capt_Tattoo folds.
>You have options at Table 105922 (No DP) Table!.
mackyp folds.
el_pollo_loco folds.
galactical raises [$17].
Ossehaas calls [$14].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Jd, 4d, Tc ]
galactical bets [$30].
>You have options at Table 95353 Table!.
Ossehaas calls [$30].
** Dealing Turn ** [ As ]
galactical checks.
Nerazurrii has joined the table.
Ossehaas bets [$55].
>You have options at Table 96205 Table!.
>You have options at Table 105927 (No DP) Table!.
galactical raises [$145].
>You have options at Table 100978 (No DP) Table!.
Ossehaas folds.
galactical does not show cards.
galactical wins $298
>You have options at Table 105927 (No DP) Table!.

[gabe]

damn
***** Hand History for Game 4164096003 *****
$600 NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, May 02, 14:23:20 ET 2006
Table Table 105927 (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 4: BNorris ( $255.55 )
Seat 5: ZacheryOrion ( $121.55 )
Seat 6: Dingy_Seat ( $648.25 )
Seat 1: galactical ( $594 )
Seat 3: superducks5 ( $311.10 )
Seat 2: muman ( $492.42 )
galactical posts small blind [$3].
muman posts big blind [$6].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to galactical [ Jh Qc ]
superducks5 calls [$6].
BNorris calls [$6].
ZacheryOrion folds.
Dingy_Seat calls [$6].
galactical calls [$3].
>You have options at Table 95415 Table!.
muman raises [$20].
>You have options at Table 105922 (No DP) Table!.
superducks5 calls [$20].
BNorris folds.
Dingy_Seat calls [$20].
galactical calls [$20].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Js, 5d, Qs ]
>You have options at Lockington Table!.
galactical bets [$90].
>You have options at Table 100978 (No DP) Table!.
>You have options at Table 95353 Table!.
>You have options at Reel Quiet Table!.
muman is all-In [$466.42]
superducks5 folds.
Dingy_Seat folds.
galactical calls [$376.42].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 5c ]
>You have options at Reel Quiet Table!.
** Dealing River ** [ 9s ]
galactical shows [ Jh, Qc ] two pairs, queens and jacks.
muman shows [ As, Ad ] two pairs, aces and fives.
muman wins $1039.84 from the main pot with two pairs, aces and fives.

[gabe]

his chat made me push, he used most of his time too

***** Hand History for Game 4164122926 *****
$600 NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, May 02, 14:27:03 ET 2006
Table Table 100978 (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 2: galactical ( $792.40 )
Seat 6: HelpSlipFrnk ( $936.03 )
Seat 1: BobJunior26 ( $632.66 )
Seat 5: Bistoukette3 ( $0 )
Seat 3: cu1mi1con ( $600 )
HelpSlipFrnk posts small blind [$3].
BobJunior26 posts big blind [$6].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to galactical [ 8d 9c ]
>You have options at Table 105922 (No DP) Table!.
>You have options at Table 105927 (No DP) Table!.
galactical raises [$20].
Bistoukette3: A3 nice hand
HelpSlipFrnk folds.
>You have options at Table 105922 (No DP) Table!.
BobJunior26 calls [$14].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 2h, As, Jd ]
>You have options at Table 105927 (No DP) Table!.
>You have options at Lockington Table!.
BobJunior26 checks.
>You have options at Table 105927 (No DP) Table!.
galactical bets [$30].
>You have options at Reel Quiet Table!.
>You have options at Table 105922 (No DP) Table!.
BobJunior26: u have nothing
BobJunior26 calls [$30].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 6d ]
>You have options at Reel Quiet Table!.
BobJunior26 checks.
galactical bets [$50].
>You have options at Table 95353 Table!.
BobJunior26 calls [$50].
** Dealing River ** [ Qd ]
>You have options at Reel Quiet Table!.
BobJunior26 bets [$45].
>You have options at Table 105927 (No DP) Table!.
galactical is all-In [$692.40]
>You have options at Table 96205 Table!.
Bistoukette3: i had nothing?
>You have options at Lockington Table!.
Bistoukette3: ahah
>You have options at Table 95415 Table!.
Bistoukette3: how can u call with A3
>You have options at Lockington Table!.
>You have options at Reel Quiet Table!.
Bistoukette3: newbie
>You have options at Table 95353 Table!.
BobJunior26 is all-In [$487.66]
BobJunior26 shows [ 9d, Ac ] a pair of aces.
galactical shows [ 8d, 9c ] high card ace.
galactical wins $159.74 from side pot #1 with high card ace.
BobJunior26 wins $1267.32 from the main pot with a pair of aces.

[gabe]

YOU KNOW YOU ARE RUNNING BAD WHEN TOP SET LOSES TO MIDDLE SET

***** Hand History for Game 4164141001 *****
$600 NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, May 02, 14:29:31 ET 2006
Table Reel Quiet (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 4: mackyp ( $569 )
Seat 5: el_pollo_loco ( $1061.30 )
Seat 6: galactical ( $683.85 )
Seat 3: Nerazurrii ( $623.90 )
galactical posts small blind [$3].
Nerazurrii posts big blind [$6].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to galactical [ Qc Qs ]
mackyp raises [$22].
>You have options at Table 100978 (No DP) Table!.
el_pollo_loco folds.
galactical raises [$57].
Nerazurrii folds.
>You have options at Table 95415 Table!.
mackyp calls [$38].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 4d, 7s, Qd ]
>You have options at Table 95353 Table!.
>You have options at Lockington Table!.
galactical bets [$100].
mackyp calls [$100].
** Dealing Turn ** [ Jd ]
>You have options at Table 95415 Table!.
>You have options at Table 105922 (No DP) Table!.
galactical checks.
mackyp bets [$200].
galactical raises [$425].
mackyp is all-In [$209]
** Dealing River ** [ Td ]
galactical shows [ Qc, Qs ] three of a kind, queens.
mackyp shows [ 7d, 7h ] a flush, queen high.
galactical wins $16 from side pot #1 with three of a kind, queens.
mackyp wins $1142 from the main pot with a flush, queen high.

[gabe]

im running bad and not posting until i start stacking people

[Rondavu]

Why so aggressive into sub par fold equity after losing respect? (89 hand)

[jackvance]

Thx for this, even though it seems to have gone bad up to now. All in all educational to see that it goes bad for you too just like for everyone on occasion, b/c people mostly like to post their winners. Ofcourse I hope to see some stacking posts soon

[gabe]

Why so aggressive into sub par fold equity after losing respect? (89 hand)

i was thinking that he just wanted a showdown. if he had a great hand, why would he want me to know that he thought i was bluffing?

meanwhile...
***** Hand History for Game 4164358752 *****
$600 NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, May 02, 14:59:41 ET 2006
Table Lockington (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 1: Finansen99 ( $600 )
Seat 6: galactical ( $1362.20 )
Seat 2: Iwindk ( $726.40 )
Seat 4: Foldbiatch83 ( $609 )
Seat 5: TiltN0rr1s ( $550 )
galactical posts small blind [$3].
Finansen99 posts big blind [$6].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to galactical [ 7h 7s ]
>You have options at Table 105927 (No DP) Table!.
Foldbiatch83 folds.
TiltN0rr1s folds.
galactical raises [$17].
Finansen99 raises [$69].
galactical calls [$55].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 6s, Td, 7c ]
>You have options at Reel Quiet Table!.
>You have options at Table 100978 (No DP) Table!.
galactical bets [$100].
Finansen99 is all-In [$525]
>You have options at Table 96205 Table!.
>You have options at Reel Quiet Table!.
galactical calls [$425].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 3h ]
** Dealing River ** [ 6c ]
galactical shows [ 7h, 7s ] a full house, Sevens full of sixes.
Finansen99 doesn't show [ Jd, Jc ] two pairs, jacks and sixes.
galactical wins $1198 from the main pot with a full house, Sevens full of sixes.
>You have options at Table 100978 (No DP) Table!.
>You have options at Table 105922 (No DP) Table!.

[jackvance]

Damn, the impression I'm getting here is that at the higher stakes they always push instantly on something nice?!

[Rondavu]

Damn, the impression I'm getting here is that at the higher stakes they always push instantly on something nice?!

Fold equity is more of a factor at higher levels. Since people are employing fold equity more often with air, they're also employing full value by pushing good hands.

[gabe]

i havent gotten stacked in a while, and i dont plan to for the rest of session

***** Hand History for Game 4164551638 *****
$600 NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, May 02, 15:25:57 ET 2006
Table Table 105927 (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 6: Dingy_Seat ( $454.05 )
Seat 1: galactical ( $739.60 )
Seat 2: muman ( $1089.99 )
Seat 4: Foldbiatch83 ( $710 )
Seat 5: RawPokerPro ( $1144.96 )
Seat 3: Pullvan ( $138.24 )
RawPokerPro posts small blind [$3].
Dingy_Seat posts big blind [$6].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to galactical [ Ad Tc ]
>You have options at Table 95415 Table!.
galactical raises [$20].
>You have options at Table 96205 Table!.
>You have options at Lockington Table!.
>You have options at Table 95353 Table!.
Pullvan folds.
Foldbiatch83 folds.
RawPokerPro calls [$17].
Dingy_Seat folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Qs, Kd, Jd ]
>You have options at Cape Moule (No DP) Table!.
>You have options at Table 100978 (No DP) Table!.
>You have options at Cape Moule (No DP) Table!.
RawPokerPro bets [$30].
galactical raises [$100].
RawPokerPro calls [$70].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 4s ]
>You have options at Table 95353 Table!.
>You have options at Reel Quiet Table!.
RawPokerPro checks.
galactical bets [$220].
>You have options at Reel Quiet Table!.
>You have options at Reel Quiet Table!.
>You have options at Table 95353 Table!.
RawPokerPro raises [$644.27].
>You have options at Reel Quiet Table!.
galactical is all-In [$399.60]
** Dealing River ** [ 7h ]
RawPokerPro shows [ Qh, Ks ] two pairs, kings and queens.
galactical shows [ Ad, Tc ] a straight, ten to ace.
RawPokerPro wins $24.67 from side pot #1 with two pairs, kings and queens.
galactical wins $1483.20 from the main pot with a straight, ten to ace.

[r8ed]

Do you always play 77 with marginal at best odds? Is this just part of being ultra-aggressive? I take it if you miss you can attempt to push them off their hand regardless?

[gabe]

yea that preflop call was marginal, but i play with that guy alot and i dont think he respects me, so i figured he would def. pay me off.

these cards just got better and better to bluff on:

***** Hand History for Game 4164742234 *****
$600 NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, May 02, 15:50:07 ET 2006
Table Cape Moule (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 2: Iwindk ( $983.32 )
Seat 3: Foldbiatch83 ( $1157.20 )
Seat 5: galactical ( $600 )
Seat 4: jl3053 ( $588 )
Seat 6: xDonLinox ( $781.40 )
Iwindk posts small blind [$3].
Foldbiatch83 posts big blind [$6].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to galactical [ Js Kh ]
jl3053 folds.
>You have options at Lockington Table!.
galactical raises [$20].
xDonLinox calls [$20].
>You have options at Table 105927 (No DP) Table!.
Iwindk folds.
Foldbiatch83 folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 5s, 6h, 8c ]
galactical bets [$40].
>You have options at Table 95353 Table!.
xDonLinox calls [$40].
** Dealing Turn ** [ Qh ]
>You have options at Lockington Table!.
>You have options at Table 95415 Table!.
galactical bets [$100].
>You have options at Lockington Table!.
>You have options at Table 100978 (No DP) Table!.
>You have options at Lockington Table!.
>You have options at Table 95415 Table!.
>You have options at Table 95353 Table!.
>You have options at Table 105927 (No DP) Table!.
xDonLinox calls [$100].
** Dealing River ** [ Ad ]
>You have options at Lockington Table!.
>You have options at Table 100978 (No DP) Table!.
galactical is all-In [$440]
>You have options at Table 105922 (No DP) Table!.
>You have options at Table 96205 Table!.
>You have options at Lockington Table!.
>You have options at Table 95353 Table!.
>You have options at Reel Quiet Table!.
xDonLinox folds.
galactical does not show cards.
galactical wins $767
>You have options at Table 96205 Table!.
>You have options at Lockington Table!.
>You have options at Table 105927 (No DP) Table!.

[gabe]

***** Hand History for Game 4164823855 *****
$600 NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, May 02, 15:59:54 ET 2006
Table Reel Quiet (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 6: galactical ( $1293.45 )
Seat 2: Foldbiatch83 ( $716.48 )
Seat 4: FatBankRolln ( $590.25 )
Seat 3: sniper2345 ( $757.10 )
Seat 1: ssgohan17 ( $273 )
ssgohan17 posts small blind [$3].
Foldbiatch83 posts big blind [$6].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to galactical [ Ac Kh ]
FatBankRolln folds.
>You have options at Table 105927 (No DP) Table!.
>You have options at Cape Moule (No DP) Table!.
galactical raises [$20].
ssgohan17 folds.
Foldbiatch83 raises [$59].
>You have options at Table 105922 (No DP) Table!.
>You have options at Table 95353 Table!.
>You have options at Lockington Table!.
galactical calls [$45].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Kc, As, 2d ]
Foldbiatch83 bets [$88].
>You have options at Table 95415 Table!.
>You have options at Table 96205 Table!.
galactical calls [$88].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 2h ]
>You have options at Lockington Table!.
Foldbiatch83 checks.
galactical checks.
** Dealing River ** [ Ah ]
>You have options at Table 96205 Table!.
Foldbiatch83 checks.
galactical is all-In [$1140.45]
Foldbiatch83 is all-In [$563.48]
Foldbiatch83 shows [ Ad, Qh ] a full house, Aces full of twos.
galactical shows [ Ac, Kh ] a full house, Aces full of kings.
galactical wins $576.97 from side pot #1 with a full house, Aces full of kings.
galactical wins $1433.96 from the main pot with a full house, Aces full of kings.
>You have options at Table 96205 Table!.

[gabe]

woohoo on a rush

this guy was table captain so i figured the minraise might get him to push his overpair
***** Hand History for Game 4164929974 *****
$600 NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, May 02, 16:11:41 ET 2006
Table Table 96205 (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 3: galactical ( $1437.44 )
Seat 1: assclown3232 ( $1380.22 )
Seat 4: Foldbiatch83 ( $916.35 )
Seat 5: Scorpio996 ( $767.40 )
Seat 2: ElLoboGordo ( $444 )
Seat 6: Sircall ( $582 )
assclown3232 posts small blind [$3].
ElLoboGordo posts big blind [$6].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to galactical [ 6d 6s ]
galactical raises [$20].
Foldbiatch83 folds.
Scorpio996 folds.
Sircall folds.
>You have options at Reel Quiet Table!.
>You have options at Table 95353 Table!.
>You have options at Table 105927 (No DP) Table!.
>You have options at Reel Quiet Table!.
assclown3232 raises [$56].
>You have options at Table 100978 (No DP) Table!.
ElLoboGordo folds.
>You have options at Cape Moule (No DP) Table!.
>You have options at Table 95415 Table!.
galactical calls [$39].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Qs, 6c, Ts ]
>You have options at Table 105927 (No DP) Table!.
>You have options at Reel Quiet Table!.
assclown3232 bets [$95].
galactical raises [$190].
>You have options at Table 95353 Table!.
assclown3232 is all-In [$1226.22]
galactical calls [$1131.22].
** Dealing Turn ** [ Qc ]
>You have options at Reel Quiet Table!.
** Dealing River ** [ 8d ]
galactical shows [ 6d, 6s ] a full house, Sixes full of queens.
assclown3232 doesn't show [ Kh, Kd ] two pairs, kings and queens.
galactical wins $2763.44 from the main pot with a full house, Sixes full of queens.
>You have options at Table 95353 Table!.
assclown3232 has left the table.

[gabe]

i just played 2263 hands and won $4090.

[alias2211]

can you say more about the flopped AK 2pr turn check? your dream card obviously comes on the river but how do you play it if the A or K doesn't drop at the end? not an auto push i'm guessing, maybe it is still given villain's stack size/pot size ratio (550:315). you're pushing every other river though so maybe it is river push again, why not.

[lolzzz_321]

Can I have my $400 back?

Triptanes (Nacogdoches) on stars, k thx.

[jackvance]

i just played 2263 hands and won $4090.

Incredible, not in the least how you started off so bad but kept playing your game. Very nice. I just played 60 hands on 10NL and made $40! Ok that's 100x less, damn. I loved this thread a lot, thx for doing this.

Btw what is webpage for your blog? I still wanna see the picture

[gabe]

can you say more about the flopped AK 2pr turn check? your dream card obviously comes on the river but how do you play it if the A or K doesn't drop at the end? not an auto push i'm guessing, maybe it is still given villain's stack size/pot size ratio (550:315). you're pushing every other river though so maybe it is river push again, why not.

that guy is a regular. him and i have lots of history. i had been reraising him alot today and he hadn't reraised me much at all, so i didnt know if i was ahead on that flop.

[gabe]

i just played 2263 hands and won $4090.

Incredible, not in the least how you started off so bad but kept playing your game. Very nice. I just played 60 hands on 10NL and made $40! Ok that's 100x less, damn. I loved this thread a lot, thx for doing this.

Btw what is webpage for your blog? I still wanna see the picture

if you click on my name on the left you go to my blog. any poster who has an underlined name has a blog.

i know i always enjoy regular looking hands by players that play bigger than me so i was hoping someone would appreciate this, glad you did.

[Lukie]

Nice hands and thanks for posting this.

[r8ed]

Did anyone notice Iwind at two of the tables?

[samsonite2100]

Nice hands and thanks for posting this.

[gabe]

Did anyone notice Iwind at two of the tables?

yea, him and I run into eachother alot now. he has stacked me once, and i have stacked him 0.

i also tried to bluff him today but he acted like he had a flush.

[r8ed]

Nice day's work especially after starting off down. Can you post some other hands from your session? I'd like to see some hands where you reraise hands like QJ or Axs (or whatever) and then run into issues postflop if you don't mind. These are the types of hands that set up the ones you posted. And these are the hands that I have trouble bringing myself to get aggressive with. I bet others would appreciate it as well. Thanks. You know...when you are done counting your $$$.

[gabe]

Nice day's work especially after starting off down. Can you post some other hands from your session? I'd like to see some hands where you reraise hands like QJ or Axs (or whatever) and then run into issues postflop if you don't mind. These are the types of hands that set up the ones you posted. And these are the hands that I have trouble bringing myself to get aggressive with. I bet others would appreciate it as well. Thanks. You know...when you are done counting your $$$.

i didnt really run into problems doing it today, maybe in tonight's session i can post some more tricky ones though

i think im playing 1k hands tonight, so ill post the big ones heres too

[gabe]

this hand is fun, turn and river are debatable

***** Hand History for Game 4168579595 *****
$600 NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, May 02, 22:10:23 ET 2006
Table Table 107168 (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 2: srhee ( $140.35 )
Seat 3: htuck ( $584.62 )
Seat 4: Bluthton ( $1534.59 )
Seat 6: hornslax ( $939.45 )
Seat 1: galactical ( $630 )
Seat 5: Odd_Job ( $140.10 )
srhee posts small blind [$3].
htuck posts big blind [$6].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to galactical [ 8c Ac ]
>You have options at Lockington Table!.
Bluthton folds.
Odd_Job calls [$6].
hornslax calls [$6].
>You have options at Lady Lynne (No DP) Table!.
galactical calls [$6].
srhee calls [$3].
htuck checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 6s, 5c, Qc ]
srhee checks.
htuck checks.
Odd_Job checks.
hornslax checks.
galactical checks.
** Dealing Turn ** [ 4h ]
>You have options at Table 107175 (No DP) Table!.
>You have options at Lockington Table!.
srhee bets [$14].
htuck raises [$38].
Odd_Job folds.
>You have options at The Office (No DP) Table!.
hornslax calls [$38].
>You have options at Table 97888 Table!.
>You have options at Lockington Table!.
galactical calls [$38].
>You have options at El Morocco Table!.
srhee folds.
** Dealing River ** [ 7h ]
>You have options at The Office (No DP) Table!.
htuck bets [$40].
hornslax calls [$40].
>You have options at El Morocco Table!.
>You have options at Lockington Table!.
>You have options at Table 107175 (No DP) Table!.
galactical raises [$80].
>You have options at El Morocco Table!.
>You have options at El Morocco Table!.
>You have options at The Office (No DP) Table!.
>You have options at Always Open (No DP) Table!.
htuck calls [$40].
hornslax calls [$40].
galactical shows [ 8c, Ac ] a straight, four to eight.
htuck shows [ Qd, 7c ] two pairs, queens and sevens.
hornslax: damnit i knew it./
hornslax doesn't show [ 4d, 4s ] three of a kind, fours.
galactical wins $395 from the main pot with a straight, four to eight.

[gabe]

***** Hand History for Game 4168599614 *****
$600 NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, May 02, 22:12:08 ET 2006
Table El Morocco (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: geekusa_ ( $596.40 )
Seat 2: mona1isa ( $533.15 )
Seat 4: Tooth_n_Nail ( $1465.13 )
Seat 5: NICKD13 ( $1175.90 )
Seat 6: dinero123 ( $573.54 )
Seat 3: galactical ( $626.75 )
geekusa_ posts small blind [$3].
mona1isa posts big blind [$6].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to galactical [ Qc Ah ]
>You have options at Table 97888 Table!.
galactical raises [$20].
Tooth_n_Nail folds.
NICKD13 calls [$20].
dinero123 folds.
geekusa_ folds.
>You have options at Always Open (No DP) Table!.
>You have options at Table 107168 (No DP) Table!.
mona1isa folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 5h, 7h, 9s ]
>You have options at Table 107175 (No DP) Table!.
>You have options at The Office (No DP) Table!.
>You have options at Lady Lynne (No DP) Table!.
galactical bets [$40].
NICKD13 calls [$40].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 3h ]
galactical checks.
>You have options at Always Open (No DP) Table!.
NICKD13 bets [$50].
>You have options at Lockington Table!.
galactical is all-In [$566.75]
>You have options at The Office (No DP) Table!.
>You have options at Lockington Table!.
NICKD13 calls [$516.75].
** Dealing River ** [ 9c ]
NICKD13 shows [ Kh, Qh ] a flush, king high.
galactical doesn't show [ Qc, Ah ] a pair of nines.
NICKD13 wins $1259.50 from the main pot with a flush, king high.
>You have options at Table 107168 (No DP) Table!.
>You have options at Lady Lynne (No DP) Table!.

[gabe]

should have folded to the turn raise

***** Hand History for Game 4168601295 *****
$600 NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, May 02, 22:12:17 ET 2006
Table The Office (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 1: franktank905 ( $1550.27 )
Seat 3: forjess06 ( $708.75 )
Seat 6: Bet_Bet_Bet_ ( $1115.65 )
Seat 4: galactical ( $600 )
forjess06 posts small blind [$3].
galactical posts big blind [$6].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to galactical [ 5s 6s ]
Bet_Bet_Bet_ folds.
>You have options at Always Open (No DP) Table!.
franktank905 calls [$6].
>You have options at Table 107168 (No DP) Table!.
>You have options at El Morocco Table!.
>You have options at Table 107175 (No DP) Table!.
forjess06 calls [$3].
>You have options at Lady Lynne (No DP) Table!.
galactical checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 5c, 5d, 2d ]
>You have options at El Morocco Table!.
andymorris2 has joined the table.
startover_ has joined the table.
>You have options at Always Open (No DP) Table!.
>You have options at El Morocco Table!.
>You have options at Lockington Table!.
forjess06 checks.
>You have options at Lockington Table!.
>You have options at Table 107168 (No DP) Table!.
galactical checks.
>You have options at Lady Lynne (No DP) Table!.
franktank905 bets [$15].
>You have options at Always Open (No DP) Table!.
>You have options at Lockington Table!.
forjess06 folds.
>You have options at Table 100978 (No DP) Table!.
>You have options at Lady Lynne (No DP) Table!.
>You have options at Table 97888 Table!.
>You have options at Lockington Table!.
galactical raises [$45].
>You have options at Table 107168 (No DP) Table!.
franktank905 calls [$30].
** Dealing Turn ** [ Jc ]
galactical bets [$90].
>You have options at Always Open (No DP) Table!.
franktank905 raises [$220].
>You have options at Lady Lynne (No DP) Table!.
>You have options at Table 100978 (No DP) Table!.
>You have options at Table 107168 (No DP) Table!.
galactical calls [$130].
** Dealing River ** [ 3d ]
galactical is all-In [$329]
franktank905 calls [$329].
galactical shows [ 5s, 6s ] three of a kind, fives.
franktank905 shows [ 2c, 2s ] a full house, Twos full of fives.
franktank905 wins $1204 from the main pot with a full house, Twos full of fives.
forjess06 has left the table.

[gabe]

i think he had AK

***** Hand History for Game 4168673433 *****
$600 NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, May 02, 22:18:38 ET 2006
Table El Morocco (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: geekusa_ ( $600 )
Seat 2: mona1isa ( $628.50 )
Seat 5: NICKD13 ( $1713.65 )
Seat 6: dinero123 ( $628.79 )
Seat 3: galactical ( $594 )
Seat 4: coma_tose ( $600 )
galactical posts small blind [$3].
>You have options at Lockington Table!.
coma_tose posts big blind [$6].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to galactical [ 7d 6s ]
NICKD13 folds.
dinero123 folds.
geekusa_ folds.
mona1isa raises [$21].
>You have options at Table 97888 Table!.
galactical raises [$57].
coma_tose folds.
>You have options at Lockington Table!.
>You have options at Table 97888 Table!.
>You have options at Lady Lynne (No DP) Table!.
mona1isa calls [$39].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 6c, Ks, Js ]
>You have options at Table 97888 Table!.
galactical bets [$100].
>You have options at Table 107168 (No DP) Table!.
>You have options at Table 107175 (No DP) Table!.
mona1isa calls [$100].
** Dealing Turn ** [ Qd ]
galactical checks.
>You have options at Lady Lynne (No DP) Table!.
>You have options at Table 97888 Table!.
mona1isa checks.
** Dealing River ** [ 7h ]
galactical bets [$300].
>You have options at Table 107175 (No DP) Table!.
>You have options at Lady Lynne (No DP) Table!.
>You have options at Table 100978 (No DP) Table!.
>You have options at Lady Lynne (No DP) Table!.
>You have options at Table 97888 Table!.
>You have options at Table 100978 (No DP) Table!.
>You have options at Table 107168 (No DP) Table!.
mona1isa folds.
galactical does not show cards.
galactical wins $623
>You have options at Lady Lynne (No DP) Table!.

[gabe]

i dont tihnk he checks all 3 streets with a hand that can call a push

***** Hand History for Game 4168704127 *****
$600 NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, May 02, 22:21:18 ET 2006
Table The Office (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: franktank905 ( $2075.27 )
Seat 6: Bet_Bet_Bet_ ( $1163.65 )
Seat 4: galactical ( $703.40 )
Seat 5: andymorris2 ( $467 )
Seat 2: startover_ ( $428.10 )
Seat 3: nolimitguy ( $207.36 )
Bet_Bet_Bet_ posts small blind [$3].
franktank905 posts big blind [$6].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to galactical [ 9d Ad ]
startover_ folds.
nolimitguy folds.
>You have options at Table 100978 (No DP) Table!.
>You have options at El Morocco Table!.
>You have options at Always Open (No DP) Table!.
galactical raises [$20].
andymorris2 folds.
Bet_Bet_Bet_ calls [$17].
franktank905 folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Qs, 4c, 7c ]
>You have options at Table 100978 (No DP) Table!.
>You have options at Table 107168 (No DP) Table!.
Bet_Bet_Bet_ checks.
>You have options at Lockington Table!.
galactical bets [$40].
Bet_Bet_Bet_ calls [$40].
** Dealing Turn ** [ Kh ]
Bet_Bet_Bet_ checks.
galactical checks.
** Dealing River ** [ 6d ]
>You have options at Table 107175 (No DP) Table!.
Bet_Bet_Bet_ checks.
>You have options at Table 107175 (No DP) Table!.
>You have options at Always Open (No DP) Table!.
galactical is all-In [$643.40]
Bet_Bet_Bet_ folds.
galactical does not show cards.
galactical wins $766.40
>You have options at Lockington Table!.
>You have options at El Morocco Table!.

[gabe]

i knew he didnt have anything !!!


***** Hand History for Game 4168791246 *****
$600 NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, May 02, 22:28:56 ET 2006
Table Table 97888 (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 2: RetiredAt30 ( $1438.10 )
Seat 3: joeaac40 ( $424.54 )
Seat 4: hucky43 ( $597.50 )
Seat 6: McShoveIt ( $1091.91 )
Seat 5: galactical ( $1517.61 )
Seat 1: vinnyc47 ( $254.20 )
vinnyc47 posts small blind [$3].
RetiredAt30 posts big blind [$6].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to galactical [ Jh 8h ]
joeaac40 folds.
>You have options at The Office (No DP) Table!.
hucky43 folds.
>You have options at Table 107168 (No DP) Table!.
>You have options at El Morocco Table!.
galactical raises [$20].
>You have options at Table 100978 (No DP) Table!.
>You have options at Lady Lynne (No DP) Table!.
McShoveIt calls [$20].
vinnyc47 folds.
>You have options at The Office (No DP) Table!.
>You have options at Table 100978 (No DP) Table!.
>You have options at Table 107168 (No DP) Table!.
>You have options at El Morocco Table!.
>You have options at Always Open (No DP) Table!.
>You have options at Lady Lynne (No DP) Table!.
RetiredAt30 folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 6h, 4c, Kd ]
galactical bets [$40].
>You have options at Table 100978 (No DP) Table!.
McShoveIt raises [$100].
>You have options at Table 107168 (No DP) Table!.
>You have options at Always Open (No DP) Table!.
galactical raises [$410].
>You have options at Lady Lynne (No DP) Table!.
>You have options at El Morocco Table!.
McShoveIt calls [$350].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 4s ]
>You have options at Lockington Table!.
galactical checks.
>You have options at Always Open (No DP) Table!.
>You have options at Lockington Table!.
McShoveIt is all-In [$621.91]
>You have options at Table 107168 (No DP) Table!.
>You have options at Table 107175 (No DP) Table!.
>You have options at Lockington Table!.
>You have options at El Morocco Table!.
>You have options at Always Open (No DP) Table!.
galactical folds.
McShoveIt shows [ 5c, 7c ] a pair of fours.
McShoveIt wins $1567.91 from the main pot with a pair of fours.

[gabe]

oof i always start out sessions bad

***** Hand History for Game 4168931609 *****
$600 NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, May 02, 22:41:16 ET 2006
Table Always Open (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 1: iluvtoulouse ( $800.44 )
Seat 3: jphee5 ( $524.19 )
Seat 4: RetiredAt30 ( $894.25 )
Seat 5: yusob1 ( $1218.18 )
Seat 2: galactical ( $717 )
iluvtoulouse posts small blind [$3].
galactical posts big blind [$6].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to galactical [ Ac As ]
>You have options at El Morocco Table!.
jphee5 calls [$6].
>You have options at Lady Lynne (No DP) Table!.
RetiredAt30 folds.
yusob1 calls [$6].
iluvtoulouse folds.
>You have options at El Morocco Table!.
>You have options at Lady Lynne (No DP) Table!.
galactical raises [$29].
jphee5 calls [$29].
>You have options at Table 107168 (No DP) Table!.
yusob1 calls [$29].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 6s, Kd, 3s ]
>You have options at El Morocco Table!.
galactical bets [$90].
jphee5 folds.
>You have options at Table 100978 (No DP) Table!.
yusob1 calls [$90].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 9d ]
>You have options at El Morocco Table!.
>You have options at Lady Lynne (No DP) Table!.
>You have options at The Office (No DP) Table!.
>You have options at Table 107168 (No DP) Table!.
galactical is all-In [$592]
yusob1 calls [$592].
** Dealing River ** [ 9h ]
>You have options at Table 97888 Table!.
galactical shows [ Ac, As ] two pairs, aces and nines.
yusob1 shows [ 6h, 6d ] a full house, Sixes full of nines.
yusob1 wins $1470 from the main pot with a full house, Sixes full of nines.
>You have options at Lockington Table!.
>You have options at El Morocco Table!.

[gabe]

i ended up bustting lots of short stacks and ended the 1005 hand session up about $300

[gabe]

last hand i played in:
***** Hand History for Game 4169307701 *****
$600 NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, May 02, 23:15:09 ET 2006
Table Table 100978 (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 4: galactical ( $1588.80 )
Seat 6: viciouspenguin ( $1107.95 )
Seat 1: royal06 ( $650.10 )
Seat 5: tigertimon ( $195.05 )
Seat 2: JVVLL ( $555 )
Seat 3: vietcoco ( $517.80 )
viciouspenguin posts small blind [$3].
royal06 posts big blind [$6].
vietcoco posts big blind + dead [$9].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to galactical [ Td Jc ]
JVVLL calls [$6].
vietcoco checks.
galactical raises [$33].
tigertimon folds.
viciouspenguin folds.
royal06 folds.
JVVLL calls [$27].
vietcoco folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 2h, 6s, 8c ]
JVVLL checks.
galactical checks.
** Dealing Turn ** [ 4s ]
JVVLL checks.
galactical bets [$45].
JVVLL calls [$45].
** Dealing River ** [ 7h ]
JVVLL checks.
galactical is all-In [$1510.80]
JVVLL folds.
galactical does not show cards.
galactical wins $1681.80

[Lukie]

***** Hand History for Game 4168599614 *****
$600 NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, May 02, 22:12:08 ET 2006
Table El Morocco (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: geekusa_ ( $596.40 )
Seat 2: mona1isa ( $533.15 )
Seat 4: Tooth_n_Nail ( $1465.13 )
Seat 5: NICKD13 ( $1175.90 )
Seat 6: dinero123 ( $573.54 )
Seat 3: galactical ( $626.75 )
geekusa_ posts small blind [$3].
mona1isa posts big blind [$6].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to galactical [ Qc Ah ]
>You have options at Table 97888 Table!.
galactical raises [$20].
Tooth_n_Nail folds.
NICKD13 calls [$20].
dinero123 folds.
geekusa_ folds.
>You have options at Always Open (No DP) Table!.
>You have options at Table 107168 (No DP) Table!.
mona1isa folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 5h, 7h, 9s ]
>You have options at Table 107175 (No DP) Table!.
>You have options at The Office (No DP) Table!.
>You have options at Lady Lynne (No DP) Table!.
galactical bets [$40].
NICKD13 calls [$40].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 3h ]
galactical checks.
>You have options at Always Open (No DP) Table!.
NICKD13 bets [$50].
>You have options at Lockington Table!.
galactical is all-In [$566.75]
>You have options at The Office (No DP) Table!.
>You have options at Lockington Table!.
NICKD13 calls [$516.75].
** Dealing River ** [ 9c ]
NICKD13 shows [ Kh, Qh ] a flush, king high.
galactical doesn't show [ Qc, Ah ] a pair of nines.
NICKD13 wins $1259.50 from the main pot with a flush, king high.
>You have options at Table 107168 (No DP) Table!.
>You have options at Lady Lynne (No DP) Table!.

This is brilliant. At least people will think twice about floating on you...

[Lukie]

oof i always start out sessions bad

***** Hand History for Game 4168931609 *****
$600 NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, May 02, 22:41:16 ET 2006
Table Always Open (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 1: iluvtoulouse ( $800.44 )
Seat 3: jphee5 ( $524.19 )
Seat 4: RetiredAt30 ( $894.25 )
Seat 5: yusob1 ( $1218.18 )
Seat 2: galactical ( $717 )
iluvtoulouse posts small blind [$3].
galactical posts big blind [$6].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to galactical [ Ac As ]
>You have options at El Morocco Table!.
jphee5 calls [$6].
>You have options at Lady Lynne (No DP) Table!.
RetiredAt30 folds.
yusob1 calls [$6].
iluvtoulouse folds.
>You have options at El Morocco Table!.
>You have options at Lady Lynne (No DP) Table!.
galactical raises [$29].
jphee5 calls [$29].
>You have options at Table 107168 (No DP) Table!.
yusob1 calls [$29].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 6s, Kd, 3s ]
>You have options at El Morocco Table!.
galactical bets [$90].
jphee5 folds.
>You have options at Table 100978 (No DP) Table!.
yusob1 calls [$90].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 9d ]
>You have options at El Morocco Table!.
>You have options at Lady Lynne (No DP) Table!.
>You have options at The Office (No DP) Table!.
>You have options at Table 107168 (No DP) Table!.
galactical is all-In [$592]
yusob1 calls [$592].
** Dealing River ** [ 9h ]
>You have options at Table 97888 Table!.
galactical shows [ Ac, As ] two pairs, aces and nines.
yusob1 shows [ 6h, 6d ] a full house, Sixes full of nines.
yusob1 wins $1470 from the main pot with a full house, Sixes full of nines.
>You have options at Lockington Table!.
>You have options at El Morocco Table!.

*glub glub glub*
<><

[gabe]

i thought that guy was bad, i dont regret making that play at all

[midas06]

last hand i played in:
***** Hand History for Game 4169307701 *****
$600 NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, May 02, 23:15:09 ET 2006
Table Table 100978 (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 4: galactical ( $1588.80 )
Seat 6: viciouspenguin ( $1107.95 )
Seat 1: royal06 ( $650.10 )
Seat 5: tigertimon ( $195.05 )
Seat 2: JVVLL ( $555 )
Seat 3: vietcoco ( $517.80 )
viciouspenguin posts small blind [$3].
royal06 posts big blind [$6].
vietcoco posts big blind + dead [$9].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to galactical [ Td Jc ]
JVVLL calls [$6].
vietcoco checks.
galactical raises [$33].
tigertimon folds.
viciouspenguin folds.
royal06 folds.
JVVLL calls [$27].
vietcoco folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 2h, 6s, 8c ]
JVVLL checks.
galactical checks.
** Dealing Turn ** [ 4s ]
JVVLL checks.
galactical bets [$45].
JVVLL calls [$45].
** Dealing River ** [ 7h ]
JVVLL checks.
galactical is all-In [$1510.80]
JVVLL folds.
galactical does not show cards.
galactical wins $1681.80

why?

[jackvance]

Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: geekusa_ ( $600 )
Seat 2: mona1isa ( $628.50 )
Seat 5: NICKD13 ( $1713.65 )
Seat 6: dinero123 ( $628.79 )
Seat 3: galactical ( $594 )
Seat 4: coma_tose ( $600 )
galactical posts small blind [$3].
>You have options at Lockington Table!.
coma_tose posts big blind [$6].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to galactical [ 7d 6s ]
NICKD13 folds.
dinero123 folds.
geekusa_ folds.
mona1isa raises [$21].
>You have options at Table 97888 Table!.
galactical raises [$57].

Why did you reraise him here? Mainly because you figured it might be a blind steal?

I'm curious how often these things are done at the higher limits? And is it necessary to occasionally make a stand against it even with "any two"?

[gabe]

midas, there was money in the pot and i wanted it in my account.

jackvance, it just seemed like that guy was raising alot so i decided to reraise him. its hard to show how many times i do this without showing all the 76os i fold, but its not much.

[Renton]

At full ring, I will often reraise loose raisers (greater than 12%) with any two in position. Then when they check to me I take it down 90% of the time with a strong bet on the flop.

[mcatdog]

At full ring, I will often reraise loose raisers (greater than 12%) with any two in position. Then when they check to me I take it down 90% of the time with a strong bet on the flop.

This is a good play, and it really does work 90% of the time at 100NL because they always put you on aces or kings (because they aren't capable of making this move without aces or kings, they assume that you aren't, either). However, I imagine that at 600NL, people are smart enough to figure out that you're doing this, and they'll start three-betting you with a lot of the hands they're raising with.

[bdawg56kg]

Gabe, great thread. I really enjoyed reading through this. About this hand though, isn't the preflop call pretty thin? Has he been 3-bet you a lot or something?

meanwhile...
***** Hand History for Game 4164358752 *****
$600 NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, May 02, 14:59:41 ET 2006
Table Lockington (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 1: Finansen99 ( $600 )
Seat 6: galactical ( $1362.20 )
Seat 2: Iwindk ( $726.40 )
Seat 4: Foldbiatch83 ( $609 )
Seat 5: TiltN0rr1s ( $550 )
galactical posts small blind [$3].
Finansen99 posts big blind [$6].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to galactical [ 7h 7s ]
>You have options at Table 105927 (No DP) Table!.
Foldbiatch83 folds.
TiltN0rr1s folds.
galactical raises [$17].
Finansen99 raises [$69].
galactical calls [$55].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 6s, Td, 7c ]
>You have options at Reel Quiet Table!.
>You have options at Table 100978 (No DP) Table!.
galactical bets [$100].
Finansen99 is all-In [$525]
>You have options at Table 96205 Table!.
>You have options at Reel Quiet Table!.
galactical calls [$425].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 3h ]
** Dealing River ** [ 6c ]
galactical shows [ 7h, 7s ] a full house, Sevens full of sixes.
Finansen99 doesn't show [ Jd, Jc ] two pairs, jacks and sixes.
galactical wins $1198 from the main pot with a full house, Sevens full of sixes.
>You have options at Table 100978 (No DP) Table!.
>You have options at Table 105922 (No DP) Table!.

[Greedo017]

yea that preflop call was marginal, but i play with that guy alot and i dont think he respects me, so i figured he would def. pay me off.

[r8ed]

I went galactical last night just to see how it works. I started out winning 3+ buyins within the first hour. I think I was running 35/28. I was raising and reraising some very marginal holdings. Then I bet 3/4 on each street and usually didn't reach the river. When I did I had the goods or knew what I had was enough.

Then I ran into some issues. I was having some trouble determining if people where just playing back at me while I had a decent hand. Like when I raised KQ and got a caller. The flop was suited but had KQ. Some guy that just started playing back at me got frisky again. I lost my stack to his A9s. Then I missed every flop (or flopped 2nd best) for the next 2+ hours and lost my profits and much more. I think I should have tightened up or left those tables. But if I hit a couple hands here or there it would have been a positive night.

I'm sure there are huge swings playing this way which I don't mind that much but figuring out when you are REALLY beat and letting hands go seems like the piece of the puzzle that will keep downswings smaller and upswings higher. Anyway, thanks for sharing. Playing this way can only help my postflop game and my aggression overall.

[gabe]

I was having some trouble determining if people where just playing back at me while I had a decent hand.

this is by far the hardest thing to handle when you are playing LAG. you always gotta think, are they just sick of me betting, or do they really have a hand? just takes practice to get through.

[jackvance]

this is by far the hardest thing to handle when you are playing LAG. you always gotta think, are they just sick of me betting, or do they really have a hand? just takes practice to get through.

Heh, I'm dealing with that issue right now as well. I just moved up a stake as my BR now permitted it, and people suddenly start playing back at me - reraising and all that - a lot more! That's not really a problem, but I just wasn't used to it so I kinda lost my balance for a while.

Ok, this is peanuts compared to the higher stakes, but it went like this. After playing almost nothing anymore for a while, on tuesday I played for 9 hours (2 table 6max) on 10NL and went from $67 to $220. (BR was only $67 cuz I keep cashing out, need money irl bad) So earlier today I started 20NL, first hand AK, I raise, guy reraises me, probably thinking I sat down and wanted to play roughball. I call, flop is K and rags, I keep betting 3/4 pot, he keeps following with nothing. Finally a block bet on the river, he calls and had hit his runner-runner flush! Give or take a few $s, I lost a stack on my first hand after moving up!

Funny thing was, I played for an hour, and that table where lots of people kept playing back at me and a super aggro LAG sat to my left (sigh) actually turned out to be largely profitable. I made back my bad luck loss and more, it was however the other table that played normally that I lost another buy-in at. I guess adapting to the aggro table worked, but wrecked my game at the passive table.. betting into displays of weakness with semi-holdings really doesn't work at a table full of passive slowplayers . I can often destroy a passive table with my LAG style, but it requires a certain sensitivity to how they play.. and this is vastly different from a table where people play back at you. (conclusion: overall lost $10; so basically made $10 after that first hand but coulda done way better)

EDIT:
Oh and a thing I'm noticing, against people that you notice want to play back at you, on the right board texture a slowplay often makes them go hard on you with weaker holdings. I guess they really don't expect you to have something when you've been aggro all the time, and those that like to play back love to take any chance they get, so let em.. I need more experience finetuning this however.

[gabe]

Gabe, great thread. I really enjoyed reading through this. About this hand though, isn't the preflop call pretty thin? Has he been 3-bet you a lot or something?

if he had been 3 betting me alot, i would be more likely to reraise or fold than just call. calling is bad against someone thats raises a wide range because you don't have implied odds against them since their range is so wide. he actually hadn't reraised me at all, i was taking down his blind every time.

[UG]

Playing LAG at NL600 and playing LAG at NL20 are two TOTALLY different things.

Tight is right at the lower levels.

[jackvance]

Playing LAG at NL600 and playing LAG at NL20 are two TOTALLY different things.

Tight is right at the lower levels.

It seems to work for me though. If I notice it's a "typical" table I'll simply not go strong on air or a missed draw, b/c I have little to no fold equity. Depending on the table, like if I notice they call way too much, I might even go softer on draws. Standard TAG is no doubt profitable, but it's just so slow to make money, and I don't really like it.

I mean, yeah positive variance and all that, but on tuesday I still played 1.8k hands for 40+ ptBB/100.. so while this is way too little to get even close to knowing my average, I'd say it's still a large enough sample to conclude that Lagg can be profitable at the lower limits even. (I mean, if it really was a self-destructive way to play, I would have had to hit some MONSTER flops to get these results)

[gabe]

Playing LAG at NL600 and playing LAG at NL20 are two TOTALLY different things.

Tight is right at the lower levels.

i'm really not that loose anyway. My vpip hovers between 21 and 22, which isn't that many more hands than the average TAG, the only difference is that I raise more.

[jackvance]

Btw I dunno how to call my way of playing, "stupid" maybe, I generally call it Lagg.. but anyway, I dug up my stats and posted em in another thread. Not sure how to interpret em though.

[jackvance]

i'm really not that loose anyway. My vpip hovers between 21 and 22, which isn't that many more hands than the average TAG, the only difference is that I raise more.

I recently seem to be around 33/11. Ofcourse the huge stakes difference makes any comparison futile, but can you say how much your PFR is? Half of your VP$IP?

Oh and if I may, one thing about a hand of yours played around in my mind recently, so I thought I'd ask. The one where you push on a rather small pot (compared to stacks) b/c you thought he didn't have much.. I was thinking why you would risk seemingly disproportionally much to get that dead money? Why not a simple 2x or 3x pot? The thing I came up with is that in the case he suspects a possible bluff, *he* could push, leaving you having to fold.. so to avoid that, you push already?

Oh and a good thing I skimmed over this thread again, I missed this gem earlier:

if he had been 3 betting me alot, i would be more likely to reraise or fold than just call. calling is bad against someone thats raises a wide range because you don't have implied odds against them since their range is so wide. he actually hadn't reraised me at all, i was taking down his blind every time.

I like this reasoning, makes a lot of sense. Is this how you deal with Laggs too? Reraise or fold?

[sunfunbunch]

I'm a loosey goose at times.

I typically run 30/20.

If I want to have some "fun" I'll run at 40/30.

On the subject of playing back: I love it when the BLINDS start to play back, when I'm raising them on the button. This is easy pickings.

I'll raise with AK, they RR me then I RR. IF an ACE or King falls on the flop I'm pushing. This is something beautiful I have 'learned' about AK==> It's a GREAT hand PREFLOP, so I like getting my $ in then. In the lowstakes I play AK is usually a show down hand when it's just a preflop raise and some hand calls. As soon as I meet resistance [some reraising, I tend to slow down] I've learned to not go to the end with these hands when flopping ONLY top pair. Guess I'm a wuss?

Then you have the "other type" of hands. When I preflop raise a hand like AT, KJ-KT, QJ I'm probably folding to a RERAISE, but will CALL a reraise when I have raised preflop with something like 98s [implied odds]. With the other hands, I'm prolly going to get in trouble post flop. Win small, lose big type of hands.

[jackvance]

I think I "typically" have a somewhat higher PFR too, but not 20% like you lol. Maybe 30/15 of sorts. But the sample size I took my 33/11 statistics from was at tables with guys who liked to call you down. So I have to slow down on the PFR's there. They weren't the donk calling stations, but the decent players who are capable of sniffing out a possible bluff/c-bet etc. I hate those :P

[sunfunbunch]

Yeah I raise a lot of crap, but sometimes the 'crap' I raise also depends on who AND how many people are in the pot.

For example: I often like to raise JTo. However, If I'm on the button and two people have ALREADY limped in, then I just go ahead and limp or fold. [no raising here].

[aislephive]

I'm a loosey goose at times.

I typically run 30/20.

If I want to have some "fun" I'll run at 40/30.

On the subject of playing back: I love it when the BLINDS start to play back, when I'm raising them on the button. This is easy pickings.

I'll raise with AK, they RR me then I RR. IF an ACE or King falls on the flop I'm pushing. This is something beautiful I have 'learned' about AK==> It's a GREAT hand PREFLOP, so I like getting my $ in then. In the lowstakes I play AK is usually a show down hand when it's just a preflop raise and some hand calls. As soon as I meet resistance [some reraising, I tend to slow down] I've learned to not go to the end with these hands when flopping ONLY top pair. Guess I'm a wuss?

Then you have the "other type" of hands. When I preflop raise a hand like AT, KJ-KT, QJ I'm probably folding to a RERAISE, but will CALL a reraise when I have raised preflop with something like 98s [implied odds]. With the other hands, I'm prolly going to get in trouble post flop. Win small, lose big type of hands.

What stakes are you playing? If you're playing against half-decent players you will get eaten alive playing 40/30. I tend to play at about 19/14 at 200NL which is pretty solid TAGGish, although some tables I have had stats of 30/20 because they are all nits.

[sunfunbunch]

Hehe. don't take my post to heart.

I'll play 40/30 when need be (as in.. "on occassion"). If I notice the blinds are weak, I'll tend to raise a lot more. All about the table I'm on for the 40/30 gameplay.
Some tables are rediculously tight at times. (Reminds me of the old days at Empire).

I don't like playing TAGG on 6max, as it gets me TOO attached to hands.

Stakes? Up to 100nl and my typcial stats are 30/20.

[DaNutsInYoEye]

Post Gabe. Or make a blog entry. I want to see some big pots. They make me feel good inside. Thank you.

[gabe]

ha, i just dropped 10k at 10/20 and dont feel like it!

but i will surely summarize recent events when im in good spirits.

[Renton]

wow that sucks, but you were up like 16k or something at 10/20 to start with so no worries, right?

[gabe]

yea, i was playing within bankroll so never any worries. the deck was just cold as shit.

heres a fun 3/6 hand i played this afternoon.
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

saw flop|saw showdown

Hero ($1833.95)
UTG ($1606.85)
MP ($568)
CO ($757)
Button ($135.10)
SB ($305.40)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 6, 4. SB posts a blind of $3.
UTG raises to $21, 4 folds, Hero raises to $54, UTG calls $39.

Flop: ($123) 3, A, 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $100, UTG calls $100.

Turn: ($323) K (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks.

River: ($323) 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $220, Hero calls $1673.95 (All-In), UTG folds.

Final Pot: $2216.95
Main Pot: $2216.95, returned to Hero.

Results in white below:
Hero has 6c 4s (high card, ace).
Outcome: Hero wins $2216.95.

[johnnyBuz]

were you trying to represent the straight or a set here? what kind of a hand were you putting him on that he would probably lay down?

[gabe]

he typed in the chat that he was 100% sure i had kk, so i guess thats what i was repping!

it was more me putting him on a hand that couldnt call

[Lukie]

yea, i was playing within bankroll so never any worries. the deck was just cold as shit.

g1u (1:59:52 AM):
LuKie StyLe 3 (2:00:06 AM): dude i dont care
LuKie StyLe 3 (2:00:07 AM): man up
LuKie StyLe 3 (2:00:11 AM): variance happens to everyone
LuKie StyLe 3 (2:00:17 AM): stop being a bitch

[Lukie]

jk man don't hurt me

and post some more hands, they are enjoyable to read.

[mcatdog]

Gabe,

Would you ever both check the turn with a monster hand, and then check the river again if it checks through? I've made a few big calls in these spots because the river check-raise just looked too fishy. But maybe people at 3-6 are more capable of mixing it up.

[johnny_fish]

he typed in the chat that he was 100% sure i had kk, so i guess thats what i was repping!

it was more me putting him on a hand that couldnt call

- Would you ever bet this flop with KK?
- I guess you put him on AK/AA after the flop call? What made you decide (at the river) that it wasn't AA?
- Would you play it the same with AA?

[gabe]

i would play AA the same way, but i dont think i would bet the flop with KK.

i would play AA like that (check turn and river) because i was going for a check raise on turn, and since the draw missed on river, hopefully he would bluff at it and i could still it off. id probably be more likely to raise his river bet to about 900 instead of pushing though. i also had some history with this guy so that probably influenced the weird line some.