Aggro image, but facing aggression = confusion

Played this session today, and was playing pretty/very aggro. Overall was running like 25/21 with a 3bet of 12, which means I must have been perceived as 3betting around 14-15 on a few tables.

Was pretty much not flatting any/many hands at all out of the blinds. These could all be stupid and the easiest folds ever, and I just level myself out of easy folds, just cause I'm being aggressive


Hand 1
-had been 3betting villain a ton on several tables.
-I 5bet shoved AQo over his AK and lost
-most of the aggression has been in 3bet pots, not much in single raised pots, and he hasn't caught me much bluffing
-river c/r confuses me, mostly because I don't really see how/why he'd expect me to bet here that often, so not sure why he'd go for a c/r

$2/$4 No Limit Holdem
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($451)
UTG+1 ($797.20)
Hero (CO) ($1,096)
BTN ($432)
SB ($400)
BB ($485)

Pre-Flop: ($6, 6 players) Hero is CO
UTG raises to $12, 1 fold, Hero calls $12, 3 folds

Flop: ($30, 2 players)
UTG bets $21, Hero calls $21

Turn: ($72, 2 players)
UTG bets $51, Hero calls $51

River: ($174, 2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $118, UTG goes all-in $367, Hero ??



Hand 2
-villain in this hand has played me in past, but nothing much yet this session
-he's prob seen me 3betting other ppl on the table though
-he's mostly taggy, this was my first 3bet vs him of the session
-calling flop bad? bad spot to bluff river?

$2/$4 No Limit Holdem
5 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($386.10)
CO ($542.20)
BTN ($416.70)
Hero (SB) ($420)
BB ($628.70)

Pre-Flop: ($6, 5 players) Hero is SB
2 folds, BTN raises to $12, Hero raises to $38, 1 fold, BTN calls $26

Flop: ($80, 2 players)
Hero bets $66, BTN raises to $160, Hero calls $94

Turn: ($400, 2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: ($400, 2 players)
Hero bets $222




Hand 3
-had been 3betting villain a ton on several tables. I 4bet him once, he flatted OOP and folded to my cbet. I 4bet him another time, he flatted OOP and I shoved KK on T74cc flop and he called AQcc and I held
-My big leak is being aggro and not being sure how to react to ppl raising me, and if they are raising my weak range to get a fold or raising my over-aggro image to get a shove

$2/$4 No Limit Holdem
5 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($154)
CO ($745.10)
BTN ($400)
SB ($400)
Hero (BB) ($618)

Pre-Flop: ($6, 5 players) Hero is BB
2 folds, BTN raises to $10, 1 fold, Hero raises to $34, BTN calls $24

Flop: ($70, 2 players)
Hero bets $40, BTN raises to $96, Hero could just fold.. I guess...

lol this won t be very helpful but i d go fold-fold flop-fold flop

Originally Posted by Genitruc

lol this won t be very helpful but i d go fold-fold flop-fold flop

hah it's still helpful, just reminding me that something is wrong with my ability to perceive a good fold.

which one is the closest for you in terms of doing anything other than fold?

Hand 1 : Everything is fine except river is a check - there just isn't enough value from the odd 9s/10s (i think a decent player is folding those lots) vs the times he c/calls better or c/raise owns you.

Hand 2: I'm a bit torn - on the one hand it's consistent with your line to be strong here - but I think most people expect you to jam AQ+ on that board to a raise but then again you'd be jamming most flushdraws as well so yeah I think this is fine and he folds Ax sometimes.

Hand 3 : Meh i'd just fold flop since I Don't think people are bluffing this board that often and if his range is Kx + combo draws you're pretty crushed.

Originally Posted by Ravageur

Hand 1 : Everything is fine except river is a check - there just isn't enough value from the odd 9s/10s (i think a decent player is folding those lots)

Ok I don't disagree with this, and I do agree that I think most people think that this is a check with most of our range here as well. Which is exactly why I want to call here now. If me betting seemed likely here, I'd have a pretty easy time folding...

Hand 2: If villain is ever bluff-raising this flop, then we can shove I believe; otherwise, it's probably a fold.
It's fairly close though.

1- river seems like a very clear check- what worse hands do u expect him to c/c...how could u really be bluffing? it seems ur good often but this is truly an unnecessary merge
2-what the f at ur cbet size? shove or fold flop depending on read. there isnt enough behind to just call for implied odds. as played i wouldnt bluff riv
3- both 3betting and cbetting seem really bad w/ stacks

1 and 3 just seem like such easy folds unless you think villain might be getting out of line, in 3 if i continued i would make a live-play weirdo play and flat then lead-call a blank turn

2 is closest for me since you 3 bet a lot and your bet-call range has to be like AJ+. sux to get it in vs dominating draws but if i continued i would just shove flop

I really like nr1 with the right dynamic and even more if we held the Ah. Holy definitely call I know you can't be seriously asking.

2-3 what Rich said.

Hand 1 - I'm surprised at the clear check back comments. Not so much because we can't be bluffing, but just because I would expect villain to very often bet his value hands (overpairs+), not c/r us that much, and sometimes c/c with hands like JT-KJ or something.

If this bet is bad for value, I definitely make way more bad value bets IP. hmm interesting

yea i dont know about hand 1, id prob check it back in a vacuum

hand 2 is def a ship

hand 3 i prob flat the raise and go broke on any non A/K/club/9/5

Originally Posted by sauce123

hand 3 i prob flat the raise and go broke on any non A/K/club/9/5

I agree with A/9/club. I agree with K cause I just don't think he'll continue to bluff it. You think 5x is bad cause he won't bluff, or cause he hits it often?

i think the 5 is a bad card cuz it takes away some of our outs when we re up against Kx

Is there something wrong with betting 1/10th pot or maybe even less than that on hand 1?

Originally Posted by nutsinho

2-what the f at ur cbet size? shove or fold flop depending on read. there isnt enough behind to just call for implied odds. as played i wouldnt bluff riv

In terms of flop sizing, I was going for two streets (flop bet, turn overbet shove), instead of 3 streets here.

Is that a bad plan? I would prefer smaller sizing mostly cause his flop raise would have more air'ish hands in them, and I'd probably just shove over a raise in that case.

i always feel sort of gulty when i don`t vbet in hand 1# scenario, though i feel a lot of the time a vbet here on the river will be -EV, since villian just doesn`t have enough hands to C/C that are worse (you could get away with vbet vs bad reg/fish herei guess)

AKxss seems so nonsene to raise preflop 3B`ors Cbet BUvsBB, he`s full of s a ton here, just jam. AA/KK/AK he 4Bs pre quite a bit, and than he probably doesn`t raise AQ/AJ on this board for value very often? (thought that would be a good play vs somebody who doesn`t believe in raising Axx boards in 3B pots)

Originally Posted by griffey24

In terms of flop sizing, I was going for two streets (flop bet, turn overbet shove), instead of 3 streets here.

how often do u do that w/ AK+? do you not think of most 2/4 regs as competent hand readers?

Originally Posted by nutsinho

how often do u do that w/ AK+? do you not think of most 2/4 regs as competent hand readers?

im gonna take a guess and say with 99.9% confidence he does this 0% of the time with aK+

1: definitely check river

2: why is your c bet size so massive? as played ship river

3: I'd either fold flop or call reeval, folding ace and club turns.

Originally Posted by nutsinho

how often do u do that w/ AK+? do you not think of most 2/4 regs as competent hand readers?

Definitely sometimes with AK, if I think villain's range is primarily Ax and will mostly always call if I take that line on the turn. But probably moreso with AQ than AK admittedly.

Think if people ranges are wider they can find a fold with Kx or TT-QQ, even though they are mostly similar to AJ/AQ, and also has stuff like JT/QJ that will fold turn.

It's not like I don't see the FD. Would be pretty dumb to only do this with a FD here.

But I agree that my most frequent line would be three streets, so I should prob try balancing that line more, than balancing my bet/shove with strong hands.

Originally Posted by Micro2Macro

im gonna take a guess and say with 99.9% confidence he does this 0% of the time with aK+

Adjust your confidence imo!

There are some regs that will always think a turn shove is BS and call down so light, and there are others who will always think we know it looks BS, and fold a lot of their range.

It's obv pretty good to go for two streets vs the first type, esp on boards where they would have a pair+gutter and we can have overs, I find. (ie: bet/shove overpair on T85xx flop and 7 turn or something. I just think hands like Tx,T9,89,99,66,56 etc can find folds to three streets on river, but will find it hard to find a fold on turn shove if a FD is out especially.

But now we're talking about a diff hand entirely!

Originally Posted by Micro2Macro

im gonna take a guess and say with 99.9% confidence he does this 0% of the time with aK+

You will definitely be owned by the griffo thinking like this.

ya he didn't get the name Dark Spewos for nothing

1 check behind
2 push or fold flop
3 fold pre

I'd fold all