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    Default 97s In 3-bet pot: A spot that is just wtf and fml at once.

    Every street here seems wtf. Villain is 20/14 and has folded to 3 out of 3 3-bets so far. Haven't seen him get too out of line and haven't been pounding on him badly yet or anything.

    I don't really love shoving the flop since I'm in horrible shape vs a continuing range and really don't know how often this is a total bluff. Guess sohving can't be epically bad, he reps fairly few value combos but draws crushing me really sucks balls.

    I call for this price with the intention of firing rivers if he gives up on the turn. Turn sizing is kind of wtf and feels like a value bet, but meh I honestly I have no idea. I shrug and call thinking I have way too much equity to fold when he reps so few made value hands.

    River - His jam here is insta, like totally immediate - like lol at this price. he never has shit like JJ here obv. I also think he rarely has Qx when he jams this quickly. I wanna call for this price since his timing and limited value made hands seem to suggest he has air/spazz enough.

    This whole hand makes me wanna vomit everywhere. Thoughts?

    $0.50/$1 No Limit Holdem
    6 Players
    Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

    Stacks:
    UTG BlackWdnsday ($100)
    UTG+1 Shantaram ($204.45)
    CO JohnGalt65 ($106.75)
    BTN brhrich ($100)
    SB Carroters ($106.50)
    BB FattStaxx88 ($61.05)

    Pre-Flop: ($1.50, 6 players) Carroters is SB
    3 folds, brhrich raises to $2.50, Carroters raises to $9, 1 fold, brhrich calls $6.50

    Flop: ($19, 2 players)
    Carroters bets $10, brhrich raises to $23, Carroters calls $13

    Turn: ($65, 2 players)
    Carroters checks, brhrich bets $24, Carroters calls $24

    River: ($113, 2 players)
    Carroters checks, brhrich bets $44, $44 to Carroters ($50.5)?
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    Call and get all pissed when he has AQdd/KQdd...or feel like a hero when he has some other busted flush draw.
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    Is it just me or does his sizing look like it's begging you to jam on flop and turn? Flop call is probably pretty close but fine, turn call is also close but also probably okay and river is sigh. I have no idea how prone 100NL 6max regs are to 3balling with fucked up bet sizing. Sure you're getting 3:1 on a call but you could also save 1/2 a BI and fold.
    [00:29] <daven> dc, why not check turn behind
    [00:30] <DC> daven
    [00:30] <DC> on my hand?
    [00:30] <daven> yep
    [00:30] <DC> because I am drunk
    [00:30] <daven> nice reason
    [00:30] <daven> no further questions
    [00:30] <yaawn> ^^Lol

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    I doubt this is ever a FD because of the turn sizing (especially with how much he has behind).
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    bet/ship the flop
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    Bet/jam flop or check/jam turn (esp with that sizing).. I think u could fold out better in both scenarios and still have equity when called.. dun mind bet/fold flop either if he doesn't look like the type to dick around ..
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    flattin ur 4bets, makin u tilt
    could you post ONE hand history thread without using foul nerdspeak or berating your opponents?
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    Pretty sure I didn't berate my opponent in this HH.

    As for the foul nerd speak, if it prevents you from posting in my threads I'll certainly try to leave it out. But fml do I enjoy using it!

    Any other thoughts on shipping here? I don't have reason to believe he's full of shit super often here and our equity is going to be really bad if we get it in. Not sure it can be profitable without more of a dynamic/reason to think he's outright bluffing a good amount.
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    you have pretty sick odds on flop, if he made it bigger id def snapmuck flop
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    What about betting all in on the turn over his bet? I think I like that more than check and calling a turn bet and hoping he bluffs his missed draw to a flush on river.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravageur View Post
    What about betting all in on the turn over his bet? I think I like that more than check and calling a turn bet and hoping he bluffs his missed draw to a flush on river.
    Doesn't his turn sizing make it look like thats exactly what he wants us to do?

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