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    Default 50nl 6m aces up on turn

    BU caller is complete unknown (but doesn't auto-top up and so is likely not a solid reg), SB is 38/20 over 65. he hasn't 3bet in this sample and has folded to 3/3 CB's. BB caller is 20/0 over 5.

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (5 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
    MP ($107.50)
    Button ($41.60)
    SB ($53.60)
    BB ($50)
    Hero (UTG) ($82.95)
    Preflop: Hero is UTG with A, Q
    Hero bets $1.50, 1 fold, Button calls $1.50, SB calls $1.25, BB calls $1
    Flop: ($6) 4, Q, 10 (4 players)
    SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $5, 1 fold, SB calls $5, BB calls $5
    Turn: ($21) A (3 players)
    SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $14, SB raises to $47.10 (All-In), 1 fold, Hero ?
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    You look pretty pleased with your hand here so he shouldn't be bluffing and I don't see anything he's playing for value that you beat.


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    fish+|drawy board+massive pot+top two = call.

    stuff he's playing for value that you beat would be AT, QT, A4.
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    Let's try PokerStove...

    Board: As Qh Tc 4c
    Dead:

    equity win tie pots won pots tied
    Hand 0: 43.084% 37.66% 05.42% 580 83.50 { AdQs }
    Hand 1: 56.916% 51.49% 05.42% 793 83.50 { TT, AQs, ATs, A4s, KJs, AQo, ATo, A4o, KJo }

    I left out a some hands (QT, AcXc) just to show how easy of a call this is.

    We need to be good 29.5% of the time. We could discount TT, add AXcc and QT, and we are actually favoured to win.
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    pretty easy call considering he can be value shipping worse and semi bluffing

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    ^^^ what they said.
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    it looks like villain has to shove ATs/ATo for us to call.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Galapogos View Post
    You look pretty pleased with your hand here so he shouldn't be bluffing and I don't see anything he's playing for value that you beat.
    My bad, read his stats as reggish (wtf?) but yeah, call vs this guy.


    Quote Originally Posted by sauce123
    I don't get why you insist on stacking off with like jack high all the time.
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    Call it off.
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    thought it was a pretty standard call but i just wanted to double-check. he had it obv.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexos View Post
    blows my mind how underused pokerstove is
    blows my mind how underused weighting hands in pokerstove is
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukie View Post
    blows my mind how underused weighting hands in pokerstove is
    +1
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    Shame that HoldemRanger didn't become mainstream. So much easier to put in {QQ+, AK(50)} to remove half the AK combos than to do it manually. Not so much preflop but when postflop when you have to avoid removing, say, AhKc on an Ah Ks Qc or whatever.
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    it is NOT standard to call it off here
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    Quote Originally Posted by nutsinho View Post
    it is NOT standard to call it off here
    Goooooooooooooooooooooooooood because I m not calling here either
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    You shouldn't put 100% weighting on anything but KJ. He's almost surely playing Kj this way but all other hands in that range have some probability that isn't negligible of being played differently.
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    lol I didnt post itt because I dont know whether I want to call or not and I still cant decide. I think we should know more about villain after having played 65 hands with him.


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    I'm not inclined to go against nutsinho but my guess would be close its a call would be my first guess and what I would do real time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukie View Post
    blows my mind how underused weighting hands in pokerstove is
    true also, but to a lesser extent
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    Quote Originally Posted by nutsinho View Post
    it is NOT standard to call it off here

    We aren't in a standard spot, we are up against a 38/20 semi fish. There are likely enough combination of worse 2 pairs as well as retard factor to make this a call imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nutsinho View Post
    it is NOT standard to call it off here
    This is KJ like....1000%...lol you have 4 outs. Fold and be happy he didn't flat and let you v-bet the brick on the river where when he jams then your in a actual tough spot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by acg123 View Post
    This is KJ like....1000%...lol you have 4 outs. Fold and be happy he didn't flat and let you v-bet the brick on the river where when he jams then your in a actual tough spot.
    i'm also very inclined to agree with nuts here. the only reason this is a call is because he's a probable tard. if this is a reg it's probably a fold barring other variables.also i disagree, your river spot would be easier because there is 0% you're good.

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