3 hands for review

hand 1
BTN was 19/16/2.9 over 149 hands. SB 27/19/4.0 over 38 hands, no idea about his flop donk.
I'm not sure about calling or raising flop as I have no idea if I have FE. Not sure about folding or calling turn, for obvious reasons.

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Replayer
SB ($62.90)
BB ($50.75)
UTG ($55.50)
Hero ($54.50)
BTN ($50)

Dealt to Hero TQ
fold, Hero raises to $1.50, BTN calls $1.50, SB calls $1.25, fold,

FLOP ($5) 637
SB bets $2, Hero calls $2, BTN calls $2,

TURN ($11) 637T
SB bets $4, Hero calls $4, BTN raises to $16, SB calls $12, Hero folds


hand 2
Villain 18/5/3.0 over 23 hands, no reads.

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Replayer
SB ($20.45)
BB ($24.25)
UTG ($87.85)
Hero ($87.45)
BTN ($67.40)

Dealt to Hero TA
fold, Hero raises to $2, fold, SB calls $1.75, fold,

FLOP ($4.50) 3JA
SB bets $2, Hero calls $2,

TURN ($8.50) 3JAJ
check, check,

RIVER ($8.50) 3JAJ2
check, Hero bets $7, SB raises to $16.45, Hero ??

1) umm there's some math you can do to figure this one out since you can pretty much take out a fd from btn's range. I expect to win everytime on a river club so if your getting the right price then call.

2) b/f turn as played call i guess. I don't give a ton of credit to donk bets. Although he will have a jack here sometimes.

3) Well played.

Originally Posted by meeloche

3) Well played.

Hand 1: If my math's right (almost 5:1 on a call)...call

Hand 2: If you're planning to value bet the river, why not just bet the turn?

Hand 3: I disagree with meeloche...fold preflop

I don't normally post in this part of the forum, but hand 3 is just so gross.

Def fold pre flop. Why are you 5 betting an utg 4-bet with 96s? If villain is a nit like you say, your play makes no sense whatsoever.

#1 Idk, if he´s not a complete tool I don´t expect much FE on flop. Looks more like he´s trying to induce/building a pot, when you´re unlikely to cbet . On turn the SB looks like a complete tool with a club draw or a poor JJ, BTN reps incredibly strong and is rarely bluffing/semi-bluffing. Given that we´re not drawing to the nuts I prob fold for reverse implied.

#2 Actually Im not sure, if Im betting anywhere after the flop vs this guy. Rarely does he have a weaker Ace, Im rather checking this down.

Hehe at the time I made the title I had 3 hands to post, but one didn't survive my own review

Originally Posted by meeloche

you can pretty much take out a fd from btn's range

Why is that?
I think we can rule out 2pair+ from btn's range, but why can't some SC's and some Axs be in there?


2- I felt like a turn check through will get a river call from a PP more often than a turn bet. Isn't the board dry enough that I'm basically overrepping my hand on the turn?
River bet is of course thin, possibly too thin, but after the turn checks and villains river check I felt like I'm ahead a good portion. I expected to get called by some worse Ax and some PP's, at least some of the time.

hand 1: I call the turn raise simply due to the odds we're getting.

hand 2: is good, now fold, also your river v bet definitely isn't too thin.

Originally Posted by minSim

Originally Posted by meeloche

you can pretty much take out a fd from btn's range

Why is that?
I think we can rule out 2pair+ from btn's range, but why can't some SC's and some Axs be in there?

well I guess he could have a couple of small fd's but I highly doubt it just cause of the line he's taking. I've never seen anybody take this line with a balanced range. I expect this to be the nuts pretty much every time. I guess the more important thing is I think your fd is the nuts if you spike it cause I expect him to be raising all his big draws on the flop.

Originally Posted by meeloche

Originally Posted by minSim

Originally Posted by meeloche

you can pretty much take out a fd from btn's range

Why is that?
I think we can rule out 2pair+ from btn's range, but why can't some SC's and some Axs be in there?

well I guess he could have a couple of small fd's but I highly doubt it just cause of the line he's taking. I've never seen anybody take this line with a balanced range. I expect this to be the nuts pretty much every time. I guess the more important thing is I think your fd is the nuts if you spike it cause I expect him to be raising all his big draws on the flop.

Im worried about the SB having our FD dominated/removing two of our outs.

Originally Posted by XTR1000

Im worried about the SB having our FD dominated/removing two of our outs.

This is what I was worrying about as well.