200NL - Facing flop raises

Hand 1 - Villain is 28/22 over 237 hands. I believe he's a reg, but haven't played with him much. Overall 3bet % of 10% (9/91), with 7% v MP opens. He has a raise flop cbet of 63% (5/8).

UTG+1: $262.75
MP: $208.00
Hero (MP+1): $219.75
CO: $203.95
BTN: $363.31
SB: $250.64
BB: $83.00
UTG: $203.00

SB posts SB $1.00, BB posts BB $2.00

Pre Flop: (pot: $3.00) Hero has Q J

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $6.00, fold, BTN calls $6.00, fold, fold

Flop: ($15.00, 2 players) Q K K
Hero bets $8.00, BTN raises to $20.00, Hero calls $12.00

Turn: ($55.00, 2 players) T
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: ($55.00, 2 players) T
Hero checks, BTN bets $40.00, fold

In general, I think I tend to play poorly in spots like this. On the flop, I'm not really sure about the best way to continue. When I call, I'm not really sure which turn cards I should be check/folding.

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Hand 2 - Villain is a reg. I don't really have any reliable stats on him, as I don't often play against him, as he typically only plays 200nl or higher. But I often see him sitting when I'm looking for good 200nl tables. May or may not be Leatherass. I think it is, but not certain.

UTG: $212.00
UTG+1: $200.00
Hero (MP): $203.00
MP+1: $152.70
CO: $261.41
BTN: $223.85
SB: $98.00
BB: $200.00

SB posts SB $1.00, BB posts BB $2.00

Pre Flop: (pot: $3.00) Hero has T A

fold, fold, Hero raises to $6.00, fold, fold, BTN calls $6.00, fold, fold

Flop: ($15.00, 2 players) 7 2 T
Hero bets $9.33, BTN raises to $27.99, Hero calls $18.66

Turn: ($70.98, 2 players) 5
Hero checks, BTN bets $42.00, Hero ???

Again, I play bad versus aggression. I've just played tight when facing aggression for so long, I've never really had to think too much about it.

Hand 1) Raise flop cb is huge. I would play it the same, and river sucks cause AT/JT stuff got there and it's a brutal spot to bluff really. I can go either way, prob fold.

Hand 2) If villain raises lots of flops I might even b/3b this flop sometimes given right dynamic. Now I will c/c and re-eval riv.

Originally Posted by griffey24

Hand 1) Raise flop cb is huge. I would play it the same, and river sucks cause AT/JT stuff got there and it's a brutal spot to bluff really. I can go either way, prob fold.

Given he 3bets QQ+/AK/AQ preflop the majority of the time, and probably things like KJo/KTo some of the time, I feel like his range for raising the flop is hands like AT/AJ/JT/FDs/Kx? So on the turn, should I be check/calling on any card other than A/club?

Yeah, on the river I feel like most aren't really bluffing there much. Since, I think I'd be perceived to lead my missed draws on the river the majority of the time, leaving my checking range ripe for bluffcatching or check/raising.

Originally Posted by griffey24

Hand 2) If villain raises lots of flops I might even b/3b this flop sometimes given right dynamic. Now I will c/c and re-eval riv.

No real clue how often he's raising flops. Have a pretty limited sample of hands against him, and looking at the stats, I doubt they are all that representative of his play. I know he's a reg, and see him sitting 200nl+ pretty frequently though.

My concern on the turn is that after I bet/call flop my range is going to consist of primarily sets/overpairs/TP/98, and I wonder how likely he is to continue bluffing into that range on the turn.

Hand 2- yah that's kind of why I 3b this flop, because on such a dry board it looks kind of FoS and they are likely to peel lighter IP.

Hand 2: Lots of regs flat big pairs preflop against tight MP openers, so your image and villain's 3bet% vs MP could be important here.

I am not sure how often these regs are raising the flop with overpairs though. Personally, I call preflop with QQ here 100% against tight regs, but I would never raise the flop.

Edit: My point being that you can't just assume that villain's range is sets, 98, and air. There could be some JJ-AA in there.

Another hand - Villain is the same guy from hand 2 in the OP. I have his stats at 17/13 over 500 hands now. 7% 3bet. Raise cbet% of 67% (6/9). Flop c/r is 14% (1/7).

BB: $200.00
Hero (BTN): $237.22
SB: $518.91

SB posts SB $1.00, BB posts BB $2.00

Pre Flop: (pot: $3.00) Hero has T A

Hero raises to $4.00, SB calls $3.00, fold

Flop: ($10.00, 2 players) 8 6 T
SB checks, Hero bets $6.33, SB raises to $20.00, Hero raises to $46.00, SB raises to $84.00, Hero raises to $233.22 and is all-in, SB calls $149.22

Is this line preferable to flatting the check/raise? What should our bet/3betting range, and bet/call range look like here on the flop?

I have to do some serious work with responding to postflop aggression. For the most part, I could just play relatively tight in the past, and players weren't really exploiting it, and so I did. But there are a couple of players I run up against that are good enough to exploit that, and are consisting putting me in spots I'm unsure of what's best.

Yes this is hard to play against, because you'll rarely get to see opponent's hand, making it hard to figure out what he's doing. And if you don't know how to play against this aggression, this'll often be when you get stacked. The added difficulty is the board texture. All different kinds of board textures have different dynamics, and knowing how to correctly interpret them is part of the skill of knowing how to play. I don't have a postflop playstyle that is this aggressive (as villain), but my buddy does. So I do have some experience with it from watching him play. The problem is though, he can do it polarized, ie if he were villain in the first hand he can show up with 5h6h, but I don't know enough about the villains here to make the same assumptions.

Hand 1 I'd probably fold.. the river is just such a bad card. Hand 2 c/c.. by biggest concern would be if he could show up with like JJ, but the board isn't that drawy so I just call. Hand 3, he will probably never show up with an overpair here, so it's more okay to go to the felt. My biggest thought here is if he'd play a worse T this way, kinda iffy. When he calls I'm assuming not.

The T86 board - you have position, I would just flat the c/r here, as the board is reasonably dry.

u need to think less about these spots in a vacuum and more about history and how you are perceived...

with that said we can't tell you what the correct plays are but heres some ideas:

if you think villains range is weighted towards bluffs you should call your strong hands + bluffcatchers. if you think villains range is weighted towards thin value you should consider re-raising your strongest hands and some bluffs, and have a range for calling as well.

board texture and ranges are just pretty much all there is to this...

PERCEPTION, RANGES, BOARD TEXTURE ETC. USE YOUR HEAD NOT YOUR HUD