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    Villian is very passive, playing 45/0, can this be anything but QQ/QT?

    $1/$2 No Limit Holdem
    6 players
    Converted at weaktight.com

    Stacks:
    UTG ($516.70)
    UTG+1 ($57.68)
    CO ($365.80)
    Hero ($525.25)
    SB ($138.00)
    BB ($200.00)

    Pre-flop: ($3, 6 players) Hero is BTN
    UTG calls $2, 2 folds, Hero raises to $10, SB calls $9, 1 fold, UTG calls $8

    Flop: ($32, 3 players)
    SB checks, UTG bets $2, Hero raises to $24, SB folds, UTG calls $22

    Turn: ($80, 2 players)
    UTG bets $2, Hero raises to $54, UTG goes all-in $480.7, Hero folds

    Final Pot: $613.70

    UTG wins $613.7 ( won +$97 )
    Hero lost -$88.00
    SB lost -$10.00





    Good spot to B/B/B? Villian is unknown..

    $1/$2 No Limit Holdem
    5 players
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    Stacks:
    UTG ($194.75)
    Hero ($799.25)
    BTN ($269.85)
    SB ($194.51)
    BB ($373.70)

    Pre-flop: ($3, 5 players) Hero is CO
    1 fold, Hero raises to $8, 1 fold, SB calls $7, 1 fold

    Flop: ($18, 2 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $14, SB calls $14

    Turn: ($46, 2 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $37, SB calls $37

    River: ($120, 2 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $138, SB goes all-in $135.51

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  2. #2
    1: WTFWTFWTFWTF Maybe I'm a stackoff merchant but I can't believe you mucked that. I think his most likely hand there is AA and he could so easily have AT.. What about 55 as well?

    2: Looks like you bluffed a station.
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    i think u butchered both of these pretty badly....

    how are you gonna raise a ten five, hit a TT5 flop then fold ???? are you crazy ?

    2nd hand ... why would this be a good spot to triple barrel?
    villain calls flop, which says "i have some piece of this board that i like"
    ....turn completely bricks ... 9h, this changes absolutely nothing. if villain thoguht his hand was good on the flop, why would he no longer think it's good on the turn ?

    river completes a flush ... villain check called two streets, a flush draw you think isn't a fair portion of his range?

    why is your river bet an overbet? ... if hes bad enough to call 2 streets w/ a FD, hes bad enough to get it all in on a paired board when he makes his flush.

    the only hands you are actually representing here are like ... AA, JJ, 33, and 99 ... no sane person would want to put u on any of these IMO. not that this villain is sane, but he probably isnt even considering any of these things. very very bad spot for 3 barrel
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    wtf are you doing?
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    Villian in hand 1 was mega passive tho, like in one hand he called down with 77 on 279K2, didn't raise the river... i just couldn't put him on anything but Q10/QQ
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    These are awful; call the first and check down the 2nd.
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    I would just reverse the two. Try to get it in 1 and check behind turn and c/f river. 2 barreling unknowns always gets me in trouble.
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    lol completely at hand 1

    hand 2 check behind turn atleast. Do you actually think your going to get 3 streets of value against anything here? The only hand you could get 2 solid streets out of is a FD and that hit the river, so......
    eeevees are not monies yet...they are like baby monies.
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    Ok, to save myself more embaressment.

    Results:

    Hand 1, i asked if he had anything and he said "QQ, was hoping you had a T"

    Hand 2: he timed down and called with A8 (which is what i was trying to get him off :\)

    Thx for replies guys.
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    1 is a snap all in every time, i dont care what he claimed he had

    are you playing underrolled? should be an autostackoff
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    1) snap call.
    2) horrible spot for a B/B/B since villain is unknown and we have mid pair, and especially with the club on river.
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    1) Tbh, i dont think 1 is an autostackoff by all means. I prolly end up calling anyways, but NO WAY is this instacallfistpump. The guy is 45/0, we're 250bb deep or wtv. You guys are crazy:P

    2)Pretty horrible given that villain is unknown. You're trying to get him off bad aces, when his range include flush draws and better two pairs, and the 3 on river makes all aces below J kicker split the pot anyways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexos
    taking a break after 4k hands today... only 4k left before I can go to bed!
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
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    given that we were the preflop aggressor in 1 and he limp/called, he can have 55 or any T really really easily. given the 77 hand you reported, i might think "lol, this would be so sick if im beat" as im calling rather than fistpumping and yelling ship it before showdown, but in no way would i even consider folding.
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    ok fine call, i concurr

    as long as we agree that we aint fistpumping nor yelling "shipit" during showdown
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    Yeah, looking back on it, it's defo a call.. but i really don't think im good here much vs a guy that passive.

    And yeah, ill stop spewing like in hand 2


    EDIT: and naw, i have like $7500, so not underrolled.
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    ur def insane chris, but insanity can be ok
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    LOL at calling the first hand. It's almost like no one in this thread knows what a 45/0 is. He never raises without the nuts. NEVER. Most of the time he doesn't even raise the nuts unless he's almost certain your hand is strong as well. It's a fold, and not a very hard one.

    Can you guys stop making me want to light you on fire? We can't always stack off based on hand strength alone. It's not min stakes. We take this opponents $$ a little at a time when they take their losing hands a little too far passively.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rondavu
    LOL at calling the first hand. It's almost like no one in this thread knows what a 45/0 is. He never raises without the nuts. NEVER. Most of the time he doesn't even raise the nuts unless he's almost certain your hand is strong as well. It's a fold, and not a very hard one.
    Must be a player pool difference - all the 45/0s I've played against have AA a fair amount of the time there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sauce123
    ur def insane chris
    Yeah, i already knew this.

    This means i can play 10/20 right, i mean i watched your video and everything?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ash256
    Quote Originally Posted by Rondavu
    LOL at calling the first hand. It's almost like no one in this thread knows what a 45/0 is. He never raises without the nuts. NEVER. Most of the time he doesn't even raise the nuts unless he's almost certain your hand is strong as well. It's a fold, and not a very hard one.
    Must be a player pool difference - all the 45/0s I've played against have AA a fair amount of the time there.
    If you can reliably stick AA and even KK into the villains range, then it's obviously a call.
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    1) The thing is this guy isnt necessarily that passive postflop. Ive played plenty of players like this who go apeshit with AA/KK postflop. He looks like an idiot so I think he can have AA/KK or Tx here easily, especially since our PFR doesnt look like it hit so this is a fistpump call for me.

    2) We really need to slow down at some point since a flush draw is a large part of his range on the turn and we have showdown value against anything that doesnt call anyway on the river. I dont think hes folding many better hands.
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    I'm 99% sure he doesn't have AA/KK here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rondavu
    Quote Originally Posted by Ash256
    Quote Originally Posted by Rondavu
    LOL at calling the first hand. It's almost like no one in this thread knows what a 45/0 is. He never raises without the nuts. NEVER. Most of the time he doesn't even raise the nuts unless he's almost certain your hand is strong as well. It's a fold, and not a very hard one.
    Must be a player pool difference - all the 45/0s I've played against have AA a fair amount of the time there.
    If you can reliably stick AA and even KK into the villains range, then it's obviously a call.
    this might be trivial, but if he has AA he is freerolling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rondavu
    LOL at calling the first hand. It's almost like no one in this thread knows what a 45/0 is. He never raises without the nuts. NEVER. Most of the time he doesn't even raise the nuts unless he's almost certain your hand is strong as well. It's a fold, and not a very hard one.

    Can you guys stop making me want to light you on fire? We can't always stack off based on hand strength alone. It's not min stakes. We take this opponents $$ a little at a time when they take their losing hands a little too far passively.
    a 45/0 is bad. Who knows what the thinks is the nuts here, but T5 is definitely wayyy to strong to fold. I don't think i fold JT here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by will641
    Quote Originally Posted by Rondavu
    Quote Originally Posted by Ash256
    Quote Originally Posted by Rondavu
    LOL at calling the first hand. It's almost like no one in this thread knows what a 45/0 is. He never raises without the nuts. NEVER. Most of the time he doesn't even raise the nuts unless he's almost certain your hand is strong as well. It's a fold, and not a very hard one.
    Must be a player pool difference - all the 45/0s I've played against have AA a fair amount of the time there.
    If you can reliably stick AA and even KK into the villains range, then it's obviously a call.
    this might be trivial, but if he has AA he is freerolling.

    freerolling how? 2 outs will forever remain two outs
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer
    Quote Originally Posted by will641
    Quote Originally Posted by Rondavu
    Quote Originally Posted by Ash256
    Quote Originally Posted by Rondavu
    LOL at calling the first hand. It's almost like no one in this thread knows what a 45/0 is. He never raises without the nuts. NEVER. Most of the time he doesn't even raise the nuts unless he's almost certain your hand is strong as well. It's a fold, and not a very hard one.
    Must be a player pool difference - all the 45/0s I've played against have AA a fair amount of the time there.
    If you can reliably stick AA and even KK into the villains range, then it's obviously a call.
    this might be trivial, but if he has AA he is freerolling.

    freerolling how? 2 outs will forever remain two outs
    wow i actually dont know what the hell compelled me to write that. i was looking back to see what you were talking about, and i realized no freeroll was possible. i think what happened is i had 2 tabs going on in shne, and somehow managed to horribly mix the hands together where someone had AA, or just completely scattered like 2 or 3 hands together.
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