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    Default 100nl - Some more hands

    Hand 1 - Only have 27 hands on villain. He's running 74/61 over those hands, with a 33% 3bet (3/9). Nothing of note postflop wise. Just a few hands before this he 3bet/shoved into my AK w/ AQs.

    Stacks:
    Hero ($165.57) 166bb
    SB ($103.15) 103bb
    BB ($129.93) 130bb

    Pre-Flop: ($1.50, 3 players)
    Hero raises to $2, SB calls $1.50, BB calls $1

    Flop: ($6, 3 players)
    SB checks, BB bets $3.80, Hero calls $3.80, SB folds

    Turn: ($13.60, 2 players)
    BB bets $9, Hero raises to $31, BB raises to $115.13, Hero calls $93.13

    Is this the best line?

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    Hand 2 - Villain is a 25/21 reg over 6.7k hands. SB v BTN 3bet of 16% (40/248), and folds those 3bets to 4bets 75% (9/12). His cbet flop in 3bet pot is 74% (70/94).

    It feels like he's been owning me the past few thousand hands. I think he's probably one of the better regs at smallstakes on this network.

    Stacks:
    UTG ($64.01) 64bb
    UTG+1 ($100) 100bb
    CO ($199.48) 199bb
    Hero ($100) 100bb
    SB ($100.50) 101bb
    BB ($137.88) 138bb

    Pre-Flop: ($1.50, 6 players)
    3 folds, Hero raises to $3, SB raises to $9.50, 1 fold, Hero calls $7

    Flop: ($20, 2 players)
    SB bets $9.85, BHero raises to $25, SB raises to $80.65, Hero calls $65

    This hand seems pretty standard postflop I think. I'm more wondering about whether my decision to flat preflop is better than 4bet/call, and my overall strategic approach against this guy's 3bets from the blinds.

    I've seen him 3bet steals from the blinds with {KK, JJ, 88, AK, A5s, T9s, T6s, ATo-AJo, QJo}. Given his highish fold to 4bet in this spot, should I tend towards flatting my premium hands, and constructing a 4betting range weighted heavily towards bluffs? That's what I've been doing versus his 3bets from the blinds for the most part.

    Overall his 3bet versus steal is 11%, and fold versus 4bet after 3betting versus steal is 61% (smallish sample (11/18).

    Just looking to play better versus him in the future, and thus trying to find where I can best exploit him.

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    Hand 3 - Villain is a 65/26 fish over 600 hands. Overall 3bet of 10% (25/251). Although I don't ever remember his typical 3bet sizing. Likely it wasn't this small or it would have probably stood out to me.

    Stacks:
    UTG ($249.10) 249bb
    UTG+1 ($100) 100bb
    Hero ($123.93) 124bb
    BTN ($100.05) 100bb
    SB ($86.51) 87bb
    BB ($164.08) 164bb

    Pre-Flop: ($1.50, 6 players)
    2 folds, Hero raises to $3, 1 fold, SB raises to $5.50, 1 fold, Hero calls $3

    Flop: ($12, 2 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $8, SB raises to $48

    I guess just fold? I think given his preflop sizing and his c/r he just has an overpair pretty much always?

    Do I fold to a smaller c/r size of say $20-$24?

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    Hand 4 - This is 30bb CAP. Villain is 63/35 over 60 hands. Fold to 3bet of 0 (0/3).

    Stacks:
    UTG ($155.88) 78bb
    Hero ($288.62) 144bb
    BTN ($141.72) 71bb
    SB ($41) 21bb
    BB ($56.69) 28bb

    Pre-Flop: ($3, 5 players)
    UTG raises to $6, Hero raises to $16, 3 folds, UTG calls $10

    Flop: ($35, 2 players)
    UTG checks, Hero checks

    Turn: ($35, 2 players)
    UTG bets $12, Hero raises to $44

    So, I'm pretty bad at CAP, and only sit when a notable fish is sitting.

    On the turn, I just didn't think I could possibly fold TP + GS with such a small SPR (1.2ish).

    I think it's standard, but like I said, I'm bad at CAP (even worse than regular games), so wouldn't mind a line check.

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    Hand 5 - It's a 50bb short table. Villain + BB are rather fishy, which is why I opened PF.

    Villain is 36/16 over 160 hands.

    Stacks:
    Hero ($69.75) 70bb
    UTG+1 ($44.90) 45bb
    CO ($51.20) 51bb
    BTN ($56.14) 56bb
    SB ($116.47) 116bb
    BB ($31) 31bb

    Pre-Flop: ($1.50, 6 players)
    Hero raises to $3, 1 fold, CO calls $3, 3 folds

    Flop: ($7.50, 2 players)
    Hero bets $5, CO calls $5

    Turn: ($17.50, 2 players)
    Hero bets $12, CO calls $12

    River: ($41.50, 2 players)
    Hero bets $39.18

    Not really sure about river. And whether I should be valueshoving or whether check/calling might be better given KQ/QT/FDs all missed, and he has a moderate overall agg frequency of 45%, and aggf of 67% on river.

    What should our shoving range look like here? And what should our check/calling range look like here?

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    Overall, I have to say I think I play rather poorly in 3bet pots and postflop when I don't have the initiative (after say flatting PF, or facing a raise postflop). I certainly have room for improvement the times I have initiative, but I feel like the majority of spots where I get lost fall into those 2 categories. And that I don't play those spots anywhere near as well as the better regs at small-midstakes.

    I feel like if I could wrap my head around those situations a bit better, and learn how to better approach those spots and analyze them, I'd shore up so many of my leaks. But, whenever I take a look at those spots and try to decide what my ranges should look like in given hypothetical spots, I can't seem to come to any strong conclusions.

    Any videos/books out there with a really solid player just playing a shitload of 3bet pots, or playing postflop after flatting frequently? So I can get a better idea of what I'm mis-analyzing in those spots.
    Last edited by Stacks; 05-23-2013 at 12:37 AM.
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    Hand 1 - seems fine
    Hand 2- I think showing you're capable of having an overpair in this spot really effs up villain for all hands in the future when you call 3bets. I think it's good to show you're capable of this.
    Hand 3 - blah it's close. his raise is huge, I probably just jam and own his A5cc.
    Hand 4 - turn raise is spew, just call. Preflop is meh too.
    Hand 5 - fold river
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    Quote Originally Posted by griffey24 View Post
    Hand 4 - turn raise is spew, just call. Preflop is meh too.
    It's 30bb cap if you missed that. So I'm effectively shoving the turn. I felt that was better than calling, since I didn't think I could really fold on the river that frequently. So I thought if I could get calls from KJ/QJ/AT/FD/etc, it would be better than calling, and letting him play the river better.

    Quote Originally Posted by griffey24 View Post
    Hand 5 - fold river
    C/f river? Wouldn't have thought that was the correct line. You don't think he bluffs missed draws often enough to c/c profitably?

    Thanks for the replies btw Griffey.
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    Sorry apparently 5 hands at once messes me up!

    Fully thought we were calling down with QJ in hand 5. Ok in that case I check and re-eval. If villain is fishy he'll probably bluff QT/KQ/bricked FD's here. Bluff catching is more likely than him calling worse than QJ on the river imo.

    Hand 4 - geez throwing in cap hands to mess up my life haha. Sure yah jam seems fine then, since we'd have to call whatever river bet he makes anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by griffey24 View Post
    Fully thought we were calling down with QJ in hand 5. Ok in that case I check and re-eval. If villain is fishy he'll probably bluff QT/KQ/bricked FD's here. Bluff catching is more likely than him calling worse than QJ on the river imo.
    I was thinking I could shove and get calls from JT/J8/T7/76/88/TT often enough for it to be better than check/calling. Guess I just need to figure out how often he needs to be bluffing his missed draws for it to be better than shoving.
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    I can't instruct a 100NL player, but here are my thoughts.

    1. Sometimes I'd raise the flop to protect my top pair, but in this case you'll probably just scare him away. So I'd play it the same, always scary when he shoves though.
    2. I agree with the idea to flat your premiums. Although you'll have to keep track of how often your hands go to showdown in those spots, and if he gets wind of what you're doing, and adjust accordingly.
    3. I fold this to any size of c/r, this is too tricky of a spot.
    4. Dunno cap but I don't raise there. (after reading comments looks like a shove is fine)
    5. I make a smaller bet of $16 or $24 on the river. I'm not really good at finding spots where you check the river after having had initiative leading there, but this seems like a decent spot to do it.

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