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    Default 100nl/200nl - 2 Hands

    Hand 1 - Villain is a bit of a peculiar reg. He plays frequently, and I'd guess he's winning. But he calls 3bet way more than any other reg I've faced.

    He's 24/16 over 8.8k hands. 3% overall 3bet. Overall Fto3b/C3b/4bet of 22%/71%/7%.

    Here from the BTN he's stealing 36% of the time, and calling 3bets 72% of the time. His call cbet stats are F=51%/T=48%/R=43%.

    So overall he's just calling quite a wide range both preflop, and not folding much postflop either, typically calling down light.

    BB squeezes 10% of the time overall.

    BTN: $103.70
    Hero (SB): $102.00
    BB: $100.00
    UTG: $123.07
    CO: $93.22

    Hero posts SB $0.50, BB posts BB $1.00

    Pre Flop: (pot: $1.50) Hero has Q T

    fold, fold, BTN raises to $2.00, Hero raises to $7.00, fold, BTN calls $5.00

    Flop: ($15.00, 2 players) 3 A 6
    Hero bets $10.00, BTN calls $10.00

    Turn: ($35.00, 2 players) T
    Hero checks, BTN bets $22.00, Hero calls $22.00

    River: ($79.00, 2 players) 4
    Hero checks, BTN bets $64.70 and is all-in, Hero calls $63.00 and is all-in

    Not really sure about my line here. I feel like on the turn I can't really fold given all the draws and worse hands he typically floats. And on the river, I felt like his valuebetting range is likely AT/AQ/AK/33/66 (not sure about AJ). Then he has a lot of busted FD, underpairs, and floats that he could be bluffing with here.

    Also, as a whole, not really sure what I should be looking to do postflop against this guy in similar spots. What sort of adjustments I should be making against him? I feel like there is merit to taking more turn c/c or c/shove lines against him with strong draws and my strong hands given all the weak hands that he sees the turn with, but not sure if that's better than just barreling usually.

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    Hand 2 - Villain is a pretty decent reg (maybe one of the better ones). He's 21/18 with a 7% overall 3bet over 5k hands. He's typically 3betting 11% versus BTN opens from the BB.

    SB is however a pretty large fish (67/0 over 31 hands). So I'd expect he's squeezing a lot of his broadways here and 99+ for value.

    UTG: $64.29
    CO: $244.24
    Hero (BTN): $200.00
    SB: $100.12
    BB: $305.40

    SB posts SB $1.00, BB posts BB $2.00

    Pre Flop: (pot: $3.00) Hero has A J

    fold, fold, Hero raises to $6.00, SB calls $5.00, BB raises to $24.00, Hero calls $18.00, fold

    Flop: ($54.00, 2 players) T 2 6
    BB bets $24.00, Hero calls $24.00

    Turn: ($102.00, 2 players) A
    BB bets $32.00, Hero calls $32.00

    River: ($166.00, 2 players) 7
    BB bets $163.75, Hero calls $120.00 and is all-in

    Flop seemed like a good spot to float given the overs + bdfd + bdsd. I guess his river value shoving range is going to be AQ+ (not sure if he shoves AJ here?). Is river a call given all the KQ/QJ/KJ combos he can be bluffing?

    What's the worse we should call river with? Worst we continue with on turn?
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    Hand 1
    -I think someone calling so many 3bets is calling probably all pairs, and also all Ax hands. I think they have waaay too many Ax hands to be stacking off this light now. Your hand is faceup, and looks pretty much like QQ-KK, and I'd imagine it's more likely they are value towning you than bluffing you.
    -Given his fold to barrel stats, he's only calling on the river with about 12.5% of his range that see's the flop. So barelling vs his light range should work often.

    Hand 2
    -Not folding once I float and bink the ace
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    Hand 1, fold turn

    Hand 2, if you call the flop and you spike your ace, you have to call him down too. This is even more so for the turn, otherwise just fold earlier. Looks like AK or a bluff.
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    @Griffey: In hand 1, are we just check/folding turn, or check/calling and c/folding river? I feel like while he has a lot of Ax in his preflop range, on the river he probably only valueshoves AJ+/AT/sets. And that he will have a lot of draws, pocket pairs, floats that he can turn into a bluff here. But there are quite a few combos of Ax (even if only AJ+), that he might not be bluffing even close to often enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stacks View Post
    @Griffey: In hand 1, are we just check/folding turn, or check/calling and c/folding river? I feel like while he has a lot of Ax in his preflop range, on the river he probably only valueshoves AJ+/AT/sets. And that he will have a lot of draws, pocket pairs, floats that he can turn into a bluff here. But there are quite a few combos of Ax (even if only AJ+), that he might not be bluffing even close to often enough.
    In villains shoes, facing two barrels and a river check, I would probably only jam AT, AJ+

    But facing one barrel and a turn c/c, I think this is a lot more JJ-KK than Ax. Ax would probably feel fine barreling on turns, whereas these pairs would go for c/c, so I would feel better about a lot more of my Ax range on the river.

    I mean if you had A7s are you double barreling or c/c turn? Probably doubling?
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    GAAAH I hate the turn c/c in hand one. River is def a snap but turn is so so bad. Hand2 meh standard.


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    What's better on the turn in hand 1?
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    c/f


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    Yah c/f turn, I would only contemplate c/c with QTss here.
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    defo agree with c/f turn in h1. I know you're probably feeling like 'shit I'm c/fing 2nd pair I feel like I'm getting exploited'... but you'll get to sd sometimes vs worse so you realize some equity over long run, despite it feeling like you aren't going to cuz u don't get to see river/showdown when you fold.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Micro2Macro View Post
    I know you're probably feeling like 'shit I'm c/fing 2nd pair I feel like I'm getting exploited'... but you'll get to sd sometimes vs worse so you realize some equity over long run, despite it feeling like you aren't going to cuz u don't get to see river/showdown when you fold.
    That's exactly what I was feeling. Just felt like against a villain that is calling as frequently as him both preflop and postflop, that folding second pair couldn't be right there. But I believe y'alls analysis moreso than my own here.

    For future reference, villain showed Jh3h. How should knowing he takes this line with such a hand affect my adjusting towards him?
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    Call down central, try to see if you can exploit his tendency to bet you off of weakness. But I'm always also thinking that villain may adjust because he knows what kind of hand he just showed down. This is a tendency of mine to think but I'm not sure where I should always put the emphasis. But I'd try to give this guy the option to bluff whenever I have a strong hand as an adjustment now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stacks View Post
    That's exactly what I was feeling. Just felt like against a villain that is calling as frequently as him both preflop and postflop, that folding second pair couldn't be right there. But I believe y'alls analysis moreso than my own here.

    For future reference, villain showed Jh3h. How should knowing he takes this line with such a hand affect my adjusting towards him?
    3bet a bit larger pre with pretty much same range -I assume you are fairly linear 3betting from SB yea? unless you're really bad postflop or have some specific tell when you go 2-7 here and r gonna c/f like 80% of flops his call pre can not be good
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    Quote Originally Posted by Micro2Macro View Post
    his call pre can not be good
    Calling 5 more with J3s isn't too bad imo, even if slightly -EV in vac (which it might not be). Most regs won't adjust correctly anyway.


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    Quote Originally Posted by pocketfours View Post
    Calling 5 more with J3s isn't too bad imo, even if slightly -EV in vac (which it might not be). Most regs won't adjust correctly anyway.
    He makes loose calls OOP facing 3bets 100bb deep as well. I've seen him call with T7s/77/76s, and some other hands that a lot of regs are typically folding. I've only seen him 4bet with QQ/AK+ fwiw.

    I've started 3betting him larger. Going 3x to 11x IP (rather than a typical 9x). Thoughts on what my 3bet sizing when OOP facing a 3x open from him should be? And what about both IP/OOP facing a 2x? I'm thinking 3x -> 14x OOP, 2x -> 8x IP, and 2x -> 10x OOP.

    Also 2x -> 7x is typically my standard when OOP. Should I be adjusting to a better sizing as a default there?
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    When IP you want to put as much money in the pot as possible but you also want villain to call. When OOP you want to put as little money in the pot as possible, but you want them to fold. I think 2-7 is too small oop.


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