1/2 - JJ vs. aggro reg - 180bb deep

Villain is an aggro and losing reg over a good sample, running 27/22/3.8. He 3bets 8% from bb, cbets 88% after 3betting and 2 barrels 47% (overall).

Relevant hand occurred on another table a minute or two earlier... he raised utg, I flatted btn, he 3 barreled QT2rb, 3 backdoor flush draw turn, T blank river, I timed all the way down and folded. So he could think that I'm reluctant to make hero calls OR that I'm ready to make one.


Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (5 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

saw flop

BB ($387)
UTG ($261.35)
MP ($68)
Hero (Button) ($359.35)
SB ($243)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J, J
1 fold, MP calls $2, Hero bets $8, 1 fold, BB raises to $30, 1 fold, Hero calls $22

Flop: ($63) 4, 4, 9 (2 players)
BB bets $42, Hero calls $42

Turn: ($147) 8 (2 players)
BB bets $92, Hero...

call...

Very tough spot. I would fold turn and hate life.

I think I've typed and deleted this 3 times now which should sum up how meh of a spot I think it is.

I want to call because I think that flop is fairly easy to peel with these stacks so an aggro/bad villain can definitely fire a second barrel with worse or air to push us out of the hand. There's now two flush draws out there. Given your stats it just backs up the feeling we will get tested with two barrels here.

Downside is we're potentially going to be lost on a lot of rivers and between this hand and the hand you folded to a 3 barrel, we're getting owned by an aggro player on a good run of cards a bunch too.

I kinda want to call turn, close my eyes and call river, but blah. Call turn and see how the river plays out I think.

I called. Villain waited a few seconds before shoving.

Turn: ($147) 8 (2 players)
BB bets $92, Hero calls $92

River: ($331) 2 (2 players)
BB bets $223 (All-In), Hero... ($195 behind)

I think if you're calling turn you're calling nearly every river.

The reason why I didn't want to call turn is that I think this opponent actually might not shove river as a bluff very often. If I'm calling the turn I'm calling the river.

haha

(Edit: laughing at some russian spam which got deleted)

I generally wanna fold turn.

Him being a losing player makes that somewhat closer though, he's prolly just dumb idk.

What about folding preflop? too weak?

It's clear when he 3bets to 30 pre he is not bluffing. I don't like putting my whole stack in here... just not sure where to fold.

ppl bluff pretty often pre in that spot where u iso a limper, especially a guy like this. Def too weak to fold JJ there.

given his 2 barrell frequency and recent history im calling turn and calling most rivers. Folding pre is out of the question given the villain and the fact that we are iso'ing a limper.