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  1. #1

    Default $100nl - What's my line with turned combo draw?

    Villain is 23/19, 60% fold to 3bet.

    Does anyone like a check/shove here?
    Do you play AK the same?

    $0.50/$1 No Limit Holdem
    5 Players
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    Stacks:
    UTG ($100)
    CO ($146.68)
    BTN ($318.15)
    Hero (SB) ($99)
    BB ($101.88)

    Pre-Flop: ($1.50, 5 players) Hero is SB
    UTG raises to $3, 2 folds, Hero raises to $10, 1 fold, UTG calls $7

    Flop: ($21, 2 players)
    Hero bets $11, UTG calls $11

    Turn: ($43, 2 players)
    Hero ($78)?
  2. #2
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    I'd always bet/call or jam, never check. Same goes for AK.


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    I'd Jam here. He'll be folding anything but A-K or prolly A-Q and sets I think.Pretty good equity when called.

    A-K yes i'd shove as well as with other stronger hands such as 2p+.

    sorry for the edit forgot that you were first to act on this hand. my bad.
    Last edited by thefishtank; 12-09-2011 at 11:01 PM.
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    idk i feel like overbet jamming here is going to be correctly perceived as being a bluff/semi-bluff 100% of the time. think i'd prefer to go $19/jam river or check/jam turn.

    with AK i think i'd just go $19/jam. i cannot think of one "made" hand which i would decide to just ~2x pot jam the turn with here.
    Last edited by rpm; 12-08-2011 at 02:54 AM.
  5. #5
    Do you typically have a majority of big Aces in your range when you over bet shove the turn in this spot? If so, then I like the turn shove for obvious reasons. Btw how is your image at this point? I think this hand is a lot easier once you have an answer for both of these questions.
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    very clear bet/call, wiht our 9 high, to fold out Tx, gutshots (KQ type), pure floats like 6c5c, and potentialyl weaker Ax hands (tighter regs might pitch em, although its very rare). When you bet and he shoves you`ll be getting like 28-30% pot odds
    your equity vs AQ is 33% on the turn. There is enough FE in the turn bet
    The only interesting spot about this hand is if you bet 22$ and he calls, should you jam the river that doest improve you, or should you give up when draws miss.
    What river cards are you guys going allin on that dont improve us?
  7. #7
    after considerable thought i think that it doesn't really matter what line you take. i just wouldn't jam. i would consider other things instead. for example if he has mainly weak made hands i'd bet turn (A2s, JJ-KK, JT, etc) or if he is the type to check back KQ, c/j if he is going to auto bet when checked to but c/f river unimproved if it got checked back. or image considerations, do you never get paid in these spots? that means its probably a good spot to bluff.
  8. #8
    If jamming some turns was part of my plan with this particular hand, then I'd start by betting bigger on the flop.
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  9. #9
    bet/call this turn for christ's sake
    I got more flava than fruitstripe gum
  10. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by sauce123 View Post
    bet/call this turn for christ's sake
    "The only interesting spot about this hand is if you bet 22$ and he calls, should you jam the river that doest improve you, or should you give up when draws miss.
    What river cards are you guys going allin on that dont improve us?"

    can you comment on this one pls
  11. #11
    uhm I would just b/c turn 40$, c/f river unimproved. Also I don't mind your 3b PF but I just fold here like 90% of the time
    Last edited by ZwiFT; 12-25-2011 at 10:40 PM.
  12. #12
    I'd bet flop more if I want to rep AK, b/c turn. River is tough spot for me if we brick, if we were raised on turn it's easy c/f, but if he called I'm more likely to b/f, though that could be spew.
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  13. #13
    Quote Originally Posted by lancelott_ View Post
    "The only interesting spot about this hand is if you bet 22$ and he calls, should you jam the river that doest improve you, or should you give up when draws miss.
    What river cards are you guys going allin on that dont improve us?"

    can you comment on this one pls
    it depends on your range
    I got more flava than fruitstripe gum

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