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    I wonder why MK Ultra is listed in the examples...

    I wonder why MK Ultra is listed in the examples of conspiracy theories?
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    It's a good job you're not a maths teacher.

    It's a good job you're not a maths teacher.
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    Ok so to clarify, when I talk of "conspiracy...

    Ok so to clarify, when I talk of "conspiracy theories", I mean both proven and unproven, ridiculous and reasonable.

    Because cocco and poop believe that a "conspiracy theory" is only unproven...
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    By the way, i already posted a dictionary...

    By the way, i already posted a dictionary definition of "theory".
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    No, what I find peculiar is how "theory" means...

    No, what I find peculiar is how "theory" means "unproven" in the context of conspiracies, and "proven" in the context of science.

    Do you not see this absurdity?
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    This works both ways. I'm being told I'm wrong to...

    This works both ways. I'm being told I'm wrong to use the term "conspiracy theory" to refer to proven theories. And we still have the absurdity of poop and cocco telling me that theory means the...
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    And why do we even talk of "string theory" if...

    And why do we even talk of "string theory" if it's not a theory?
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    The problem is that it causes confusion. This...

    The problem is that it causes confusion. This discussion began with "conspiracy theory", and the use of the word theory here implies to poop and cocco "unproven", while you're saying that the word...
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    I mean, you're seemingly unaware of the...

    I mean, you're seemingly unaware of the contradiction in your post. On the one hand, you're arguing that words can mean whatever the user intends, and on the other, you're telling me what theory...
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    Could you clarify what you mean by this please? I...

    Could you clarify what you mean by this please? I think I know what you mean, but I need to be sure what you mean when you say the following words...

    "A", "word", "means", "what", "it's", "user",...
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    That's an irrelevance. It's not testable on its...

    That's an irrelevance. It's not testable on its own. It's purely theoretical. Note the word I use there... theoretical. We're talking about what theory means here. It doesn't mean a testable...
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    Wormholes are an excellent example of this, by...

    Wormholes are an excellent example of this, by the way. They have never been observed, yet remain a theory. The only evidence is mathematical.
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theoretical_physics...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theoretical_physics

    Note how "theoretical physics" contrasts with "experimental physics". The former is based on mathematical models and abstractions, while the...
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    You had to qualify this statement with the word...

    You had to qualify this statement with the word "typically". Remove that word and you have a problem.



    There's no point in answering this question if we can't even agree what it means to say...
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    Well, I guess that ridiculous argument that the...

    Well, I guess that ridiculous argument that the universe started two weeks ago is a hypothesis, because it is a statement alone, and not actually related to any observation. But as soon as I relate...
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    An example when it comes to science is conformal...

    An example when it comes to science is conformal cyclic cosmology, which myself and mojo have been discussing in the physics thread. This is pure theory, which is an important phrase in itself. It...
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    The word "theory" doesn't change meaning...

    The word "theory" doesn't change meaning depending on the preceding word. It means...

    "A set of statements or principles devised to explain a group of facts or phenomena"

    A theory can be...
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    I mean,it seems to me that you have a different...

    I mean,it seems to me that you have a different definition for "theory" depending on if it has the word "conspiracy" before it.
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    I was attempting to demonstrate that a "theory"...

    I was attempting to demonstrate that a "theory" is not something lacking evidence, as you suggested.
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    idk, I wasn't alive before 1975. But even today,...

    idk, I wasn't alive before 1975. But even today, people will laugh at you if you say "MK Ultra" as though you're David Icke himself.



    Literacy. Flat earth is an idiot theory because it makes no...
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    Well it's still not scientifically illiterate...

    Well it's still not scientifically illiterate shit like flat earth and the like.
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    True, I don't care. I don't really know how many...

    True, I don't care. I don't really know how many more times I need to say it.

    I'll say it one more time.

    I don't care. It's just a topic of discussion to me, nothing more.
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    Yeah, because idiot theories like the ones you...

    Yeah, because idiot theories like the ones you cite are lumped in with reasonable theories by people who just go "mwaaa conspiracy theory".
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    Watergate was a conspiracy, by the way.

    Watergate was a conspiracy, by the way.
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    Well done for making my point for me. As soon...

    Well done for making my point for me.

    As soon as you see the phrase "conspiracy theory", it's lizards and pizzagate.
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