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    I actually don't have a problem with it at all. ...

    I actually don't have a problem with it at all.

    Just peer pressure. Apparently I'm supposed to be outraged if white kids dress like ninjas for halloween and all that
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    Here's a conundrum of political correctness My...

    Here's a conundrum of political correctness

    My white daughter keeps drawing herself as black in self-portraits in school.

    How do I discourage cultural appropriation while supporting her right...
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    Fine, I'll elaborate. A law that says it's...

    Fine, I'll elaborate.

    A law that says it's illegal to cross the border without a visa, and/or between checkpoints is good.

    Misdemeanor prosecution is a fair consequence.
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    Criminal prosecution for law-breaking is the...

    Criminal prosecution for law-breaking is the textbook definition of "just cause"


    He was also the guy chiefly responsible for solving the problem. Maybe you should be madder at the democrats in...
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    no. Any reasonable person knows that you can't...

    no. Any reasonable person knows that you can't just cross an international border wherever and whenever you want.

    And it was never the policy to allow that. The punishment was just less severe.
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    FYP

    FYP
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    I dont' get what your problem is....... It's...

    I dont' get what your problem is.......

    It's the exact same separation policy that applies to single-moms busted for shoplifting at wal-mart. You commit a crime, you get arrested, you go to jail,...
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    But you still agree, if they had just got in...

    But you still agree, if they had just got in line, the legal way, like everyone else, the would not have been separated

    You agree that any separations are the result of a calculated decision to...
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    no, sensational baseless claims like "human...

    no, sensational baseless claims like "human rights abuser" that have no basis in fact or legal definitions, and that are only mean to illicit negative emotional responses, qualify as demagoguery.
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    ugh ooga booga man break law gug buga he go cage...

    ugh ooga booga man break law gug buga he go cage room durka booga ugh family no go too

    Any surrounding circumstances of what he may have fled and left behind 3000 miles south are irrelevant to the...
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    The weren't "fleeing for their lives" when they...

    The weren't "fleeing for their lives" when they decided to get from northern mexico to southern USA by sneaking between border checkpoints.

    That's not fleeing.

    That's a calculated decision to...
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    It's such an apt word! I wish it had synonyms,...

    It's such an apt word! I wish it had synonyms, but it doesn't. You engage in demagoguery on an almost daily basis. What else would I call it?


    Yeah
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    no one is defending that. But to put all the...

    no one is defending that. But to put all the blame on Trump's administration is not acknowledging the whole problem at all.

    First of all, if you made it all the way to northern mexico, your...
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    It's more about elevating popular emotion-based...

    It's more about elevating popular emotion-based opinions over rational factual analysis.

    Like some people don't like Trump. A demagogue will manipulate that by appealing to that person's worst...
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    My use of the word was wholly apt. You're...

    My use of the word was wholly apt. You're running our arguments and falling back on insults.

    Why don't you just save yourself the trouble and say "Banana, you win, I'm retarded"
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    Dude...just stop. If their claims to asylum were...

    Dude...just stop. If their claims to asylum were so rock-solid and bound by international law....they would just wait in line like everyone else. They try to go around the system for a reason. ...
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    Agreed. Problem solved

    Agreed. Problem solved
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    YES, THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT THEY SHOULD DO No,...

    YES, THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT THEY SHOULD DO


    No, I'm not surprised at that. Robbing a bank sounds like a better option than starving to death, that's still not a good reason to do it.


    No, they...
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    Honestly, being from Vox, I expected this to be a...

    Honestly, being from Vox, I expected this to be a demagogue-ish rant full of inaccuracies and anti-Trump rhetoric. Even if it can still be called, that, I actually have NO PROBLEM with this process...
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    Hmmm, not so fast ^ I believe these...

    Hmmm, not so fast



    ^ I believe these stories are either not true, or extremely rare.

    The bulk of these "family separations" were plain old border jumpers who didn't effectively use their 20...
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    It is without a visa What would a person be...

    It is without a visa


    What would a person be suffering from in Northern Mexico, for which they would need asylum in the United States?


    LOL luckily for civilization it's more nuanced than...
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    Zero Next question?

    Zero

    Next question?
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    What happened where?

    What happened where?
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    I was busy this weekend, so didn't get a chance...

    I was busy this weekend, so didn't get a chance to post exactly this. Well played Ong.

    You can't already be in fucking Mexico, and then still need asylum.
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    totally not what happened. Again, you're...

    totally not what happened. Again, you're PRETENDING to know what the fuck you're talking about.

    Trump didn't create any new policy. He just called for a zero-tolerance enforcement of existing...
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