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    ^Except it went nothing like that. ...

    ^Except it went nothing like that.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_v._Gore
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    Too expensive based on what? What are the costs...

    Too expensive based on what? What are the costs of fixing it vs consequences of doing nothing?
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    ^Seemed sloppy. He just cherry-picked lines...

    ^Seemed sloppy. He just cherry-picked lines out-of-context, didn't even bother stitching words together into completely new sentences.
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    My suggestion is troll better. You went from a...

    My suggestion is troll better. You went from a complete skeptic to "so what" in like 3 posts. Try to be more consistent.
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    BTW re: population growth, that's most likely...

    BTW re: population growth, that's most likely already slowing down. Current estimates say we'll hit 9 billion by 2050, but we probably won't exceed 10 billion, at least on this planet.

    Also,


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    Waa and boohoo. China is exemplary because...

    Waa and boohoo. China is exemplary because they're on track to meet their targets. If Trump ditches the CPP, US emissions will also start rising higher. China and USA combined release more carbon...
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    That statement is so loaded you should be...

    That statement is so loaded you should be required a permit to wield it. No, _I_, as a non-a-scientist, can't _definitely_ prove that _marginal_ reductions will _reverse_ climate change. The actual...
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surveys_of_scientist...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surveys_of_scientists%27_views_on_climate_change

    There are plenty of potential solutions, from limiting emissions, carbon harvesting, cleaner energy etc. Just...
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    I understand what you mean and recognize it, I...

    I understand what you mean and recognize it, I just disagree. Climate change is always a security issue, whether it's getting warmer or colder. Even if it isn't changing at the moment, possible...
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    http://waitbutwhy.com/2015/06/how-tesla-will-chang...

    http://waitbutwhy.com/2015/06/how-tesla-will-change-your-life.html

    Climate change is just a side topic here, but this is a good explainlikeimfive summary and altogether an awesome blog post (like...
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    I think it's entirely accurate. Whether security...

    I think it's entirely accurate. Whether security is a task for the government can be debated, but climate change having security implications can not.
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    ^I'd think security is very much the raison...

    ^I'd think security is very much the raison d'etre of a government, and climate change is very much a security issue, directly, financially and geopolitically.
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    If one country out of 200ish can make a 1% dent...

    If one country out of 200ish can make a 1% dent without really even trying, that's a pretty good start? I don't think anyone's expecting the US to fix the global climate all by itself. What they...
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    There's an argument to be made that consciousness...

    There's an argument to be made that consciousness indeed doesn't hold executive control, but is merely a front-end to the real boss, subconscious. The subconscious processes several megabits of data...
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    We've veered quite a bit from global warming, but...

    We've veered quite a bit from global warming, but this shit is interesting. To determine whether we have free will, we first have to define "who" or "what" is the actor in that. What has been...
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    ^That's not a good comparison. Species are human...

    ^That's not a good comparison. Species are human labels on organisms that fit certain less than exhaustive criteria on their evolutionary paths. Wake up after enough tomorrows and the frogs won't be...
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    Y'all should read the 3rd link MMM posted, it's a...

    Y'all should read the 3rd link MMM posted, it's a systematic review on the consensus.
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    Luckily that's not the case. The 2% sceptics have...

    Luckily that's not the case. The 2% sceptics have consisted mainly of petroleum geologists and meteorologists. Climate researchers have always been in pretty much total agreement.

    This denialist...
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    The atheist might be wrong indeed, but we're...

    The atheist might be wrong indeed, but we're talking about probabilities here. Someone claiming kings might beat aces isn't wrong.



    The consensus is a relevant point because the opposition...
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    https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/paleo/globalwarming/imag...

    https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/paleo/globalwarming/images/last2000-large.jpg

    https://xkcd.com/1732/
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    They have, with enough credibility that 98% of...

    They have, with enough credibility that 98% of them agree. What's happening isn't within the boundaries of normal variations that can be expected, the change is in the "wrong" direction, nothing else...
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    *shocked*

    *shocked*
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    All of this was addressed in the video. 1. We...

    All of this was addressed in the video.

    1. We are observing the climate now getting warmer, quickly, abruptly and against all the other data and understanding we have about the climate, it's...
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LvaGAEwxYs

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LvaGAEwxYs
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    Inb4 wuf starts preaching creationism. Those...

    Inb4 wuf starts preaching creationism.

    Those are local temperature measurements in Greenland and the antarctic, and tell pretty much nothing about global climate. The whole point is that we are...
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