I was very much clear in saying 'from what i heard'.Quote:
Originally Posted by BananaStand
Also doesn't change the fact that even thinking about firing Mueller is the dumbest idea ever.
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I was very much clear in saying 'from what i heard'.Quote:
Originally Posted by BananaStand
Also doesn't change the fact that even thinking about firing Mueller is the dumbest idea ever.
Reasonably sure that has nothing to do with what we're talking about here. Care to elaborate?Quote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
That's a small portion of the entire relevant set.Quote:
Originally Posted by Poopadoop
Bias is harder to stick to when reality is evaluated through something concrete.Quote:
Originally Posted by Poopadoop
Except that 16/17 of the people he beat came from a different population, you're right.Quote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
The set I'm discussing includes every elitist delete-media loser who went toe-to-toe and lost. And every blowhard who said he was wrong wrong wrong wrong doing everything wrong he's such a retard idiot wrong wrong wrong but then lo n behold we come to find out every word they have uttered for two years were instead the wrong ones.Quote:
Originally Posted by Poopadoop
Oh ok. Sorry I thought for a minute you were referring to the accuracy paradox and not something you had just made up.Quote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
Possibly the only thing they may have gotten incorrect is the outcome. I've raised the argument before that Trump won despite himself rather than because of himself.Quote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
I'd say it's both.Quote:
Originally Posted by Poopadoop
Which isn't to say what you said was incorrect; just that it seems a non-sequitur since no-one ITT is referring to anything concrete.Quote:
Originally Posted by Poopadoop
Based on the unsubstantiated delusion that he's incompetent or unstable. Your mind is truly a fascinating place Poop.Quote:
Originally Posted by Poopadoop
Here in reality, Trump won because he is the only one who truly recognized, and utilized, the anger coming from the people who pay the bills in this country. They were all sick of progressive leadership that accused them of being "victimizers". And they were all jaded with conservative leadership's bible-thumping distractions about gay wedding cakes, trannies in bathrooms, and stopping aborted fetuses from being used to advance medical science.
Maybe the two best things Trump did to aid his win were cutting down the Crooked vote by probably several million, and by focusing on the Midwest.
Nobody else could have gotten Crooked such a low turnout, but maybe Cruz would have known to focus on the Midwest. He certainly would have focused heavily on Pennsylvania, but Trump getting Michigan to flip is a real feat. Indeed it might be the single biggest feat in an election in a long time.
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Originally Posted by BananaStand
Explaining his marginal popularity edge among the electorate is not the same as evaluating any aspect of his ability as a president.
Ok, in that case, which of his many successes as president would you like to discuss first?Quote:
Originally Posted by Poopadoop
As you know, I prefer to discuss his many failures and continued low popularity.Quote:
Originally Posted by BananaStand
If you enjoy discussing things that don't matter, I suggest you take up this conversation with a doorknob. I promise you the doorknob is more interested than I am.Quote:
Originally Posted by Poopadoop
Oh sorry I thought I was talking to a doorknob.Quote:
Originally Posted by BananaStand
You really make it too easy sometimes.
Then you're dumber than I thought.Quote:
Originally Posted by Poopadoop
Good one! Usually it takes you a few edits to come up with a decent comeback.Quote:
Originally Posted by BananaStand
^needs a few more edits. As is, 4/10Quote:
Originally Posted by Poopadoop
Well, praising you is never a winning formula.Quote:
Originally Posted by BananaStand
Dont knock it til youve tried itQuote:
Originally Posted by Poopadoop
On the rare occasions when you say something remotely defensible, I do.Quote:
Originally Posted by BananaStand
Trump on twitter. Cracks me up.
Not only the commander in chief but the commander of burnsQuote:
DACA has been made increasingly difficult by the fact that Cryin’ Chuck Schumer took such a beating over the shutdown that he is unable to act on immigration!
It entirely depends on your frame of reference. I agree it's comical, but the butt of the joke is different depending on the person doing the laughing.Quote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
looooooooooooooooooooooooooooolQuote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
DRAIN THE FUCKING SWAMP!Quote:
I have offered DACA a wonderful deal, including a doubling in the number of recipients & a twelve year pathway to citizenship, for two reasons: (1) Because the Republicans want to fix a long time terrible problem. (2) To show that Democrats do not want to solve DACA, only use it!
That's actually hilarious.
He makes the best queen.
Bit of a big nose.
i wonder if the divide between the political beliefs centered on fee fees and political beliefs centered on reason is greater now than it has ever been.
just reposting the all time best with the most adorable pundit blonde
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gl_6LkgeLiE
Goddamn.Quote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
I miss this guy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zfZrfKk9lY
i like how the msm can't attack sarah sanders since doing so would be the same as saying all women should be chained to the kitchen.
I think he did a pretty good job considering what he was up againstQuote:
Originally Posted by Poopadoop
I wonder if Muh Russia will ever end. At this point, the hallucination is so severe that the MSM probably would get better ratings with Muh Russia under any circumstances short of Trump no longer being in office or an alien invasion wiping out humankind.
If the silent majority shows up in 2018, then maybe it will end. If the democrats suffer another surprise defeat, then you would think that they might start to change up their message.Quote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
The dems think that they are changing hearts and minds by beating this Russia drum. they think that every time they spin a headline, they are making people more suspicious of Trump. They think that every time they report some non-story and surround it with wild speculation of worst case scenarios, that they are lending more and more credibility to the story of collusion.
It's also possible that they are alienating independents and undecided voters. There is another possibility here that says the democrats are driving away the fringe of their supporters by continuing to chase ghosts while failing to secure any meaningful progress on policy.
I feel like the deranged are getting more deranged, but they may also be dwindling in numbers. It's hard to tell because the deranged control most of the media narrative.
You could be right.
I see the Dems doubling down on the strategy of identity politics that lost them this election in the first place.
We're pretty much at a point where any woman who supports Trump doesn't sympathize with rape victims.
Trump would enjoy a 90% approval rating in a poll of people of adult mental capacity.
well aint this some maga
https://i.redd.it/63t1v8wqr2d01.png
lol
Ever since I first saw it during the Apprentice, I've been absolutely shocked how small and cluttered Trump's office is.
Memo's coming.....!!!
Can't wait to see the Dem's react to the SOTU. It seems they really thought he wouldn't make it this far. They expected him to be gone by now. Now with all their drumbeating of "stupid" and "unstable", they've pigeon holed themselves into some extremely low expectations.
They're gonna have to go on TV in about 4 hours and give the man credit for not shitting his pants and raving about the KKK
mah russia mah dossier mah impeachment
I'm just impressed that the Dems didn't pick Maxine Waters to give the official response.
I've heard a few teasers from Trump surrogates about the contents of the speech. In addition to the economy, national security, immigration reform, draining the swamp, and tax cuts, I've heard that Trump intends to mention a desire for "unification"
Guaranteed the Dems response hones in on the last one and ignores everything else. "But Trump divided this country!!"
Not sure getting yourself marooned on a leftist island with no policy plan, no message, and nothing but insults is the same as getting "divided", but that's sure to be message echoed throughout liberal circles.
The best president since Calvin Coolidge.
looooooollllllllllllll so Erick Erickson is probably Chief Cuck anti-Trump "values" (not values) Christian conservative who will take his hatred of Blumpf to the grave even if it means getting down on hands and knees and slobbering over Baal's cock. Anyways, this loser had an article the other day ridiculing Trump and making some obscure lame ass rationalization why the Stormy Daniels story about affair with Trump just had to be true. Well, this loser is now btfo given Daniels has emphatically stated the affair never happened.
The greatest power Trump ever had was having enemies. These idiots will go to any ends to destroy themselves just to avoid their egos confronting reality.
Watching the SOTU I am struck by how bad of a proper speaker Trump is. This is skin in the game, folks. Don't look to the guy who does everything perfectly, because that guy gets where he is without true merit. When you see a guy get to high levels in spite of flaws of proper behavior, that's when you know you have a real expert. This is skin in the game, folks.
Trump cited the black unemployment rate. Camera cut to the black caucus...priceless looks.
To be fair, they're right to roll their eyes when Trump talks about black unemployment. They know Trump didn't do anything with the plight of African Americans in mind. He's just taking credit for the side effects of his economic policy as if that side effect was his intent all along.
Something that aim to help all Americans includes the aim of helping black Americans as well.
This makes me lol so much. Best satire I've seen in a week.
https://scontent-sjc3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...4d&oe=5B1EBE89
Shit's tight, yo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poz6W0znOfk
I think it's hilarious how the liberal media keeps stepping in dog shit.
They've been raving for days now about how Trump is irresponsible to ignore the DOJ's advice about the memo. They've been screaming about how reckless, un-presidential, and biased he is for disseminating potentially classified information for his own political ends.
Except none of that had actually happened yet. El oh El
It's like they are SOOO convinced of their own propaganda about how Trump is unstable, stupid, and incapable of sound decision making in the best interest of the country. They just assume it before anything happens. And then Trump embarrasses them by doing something as simple as making a sound decision.
It was announced today that the White House redacted sensitive information in the memo. Only the redacted version will be made public.
Democrats everywhere are dismayed by reasonableness.
It will be interesting to see if the memo comes out tomorrow, or if they wait until Monday. Waiting til Monday suggests a larger bombshell.
Just saw Tucker Carlson eviscerate some fruitcake who was an adviser to the Obama campaigned turned libtard mouthpiece.
Paraphrased..
Libtard: Chain migration is great
Tucker: Is it really??
Libtard: Well, without chain migration, Donald Trump wouldn't be here
Tucker: Isn't that preferable to you? Shouldn't you be against chain migration?
Libtard: *shits pants*
Heh.
Can't Dog the Mad Dog!
https://i.redd.it/wow1omzobod01.jpg
Excellent.
Memo's out.
Apparently Steele leaked details of his dossier to Yahoo.
Then the Obama DOJ applied for a FISA warrant citing the dossier. The FISA court asked "do you have any corroborating information?" and the DOJ said "yeah, Yahoo reported the same story"
#draintheswamp
I just read the whole memo.
I'm mad
I don't follow this that closely. What does that mean? What laws were broken, by whom?
lolololol
The memo itself isn't that long, and doesn't contain confusing legalese vocabulary. You should probably just read it.Quote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
http://static.foxnews.com/pdf/370598...ISA-Abuses.pdf
Here are the major points
The DOJ, still under the Obama administration, cherry picked which facts to use in order to secure a warrant for surveillance of Carter Page. They are supposed to disclose ALL relevant facts.
The major justification was "the dossier" compiled by a man named Steele.
Steele's work was paid for, ultimately, by the Hillary campaign. This information was omitted from the FISA application.
The FISA application cited a Yahoo news article, extensively, as corroboration of Steele's findings. Either Steele lied to the FBI, or the FBI lied to the court when it asserted in the application that Steele did not have any contact with Yahoo. Steele admitted in British courts that he did, and discussed this exact matter.
Steele was "fired" from his role with the FBI for disclosing his collaboration with the FBI in the media.
Even after he was fired, he worked closely with Associate Depute Attorney General Bruce Ohr. Ohr documented his communications with Steele. FBI files reflect Ohr's assessment that Steele "was desperate that Donald Trump not get elected and was passionate about him not being President".
This clear political and financial bias was not disclosed in the FISA application.
Ohr's wife works for the company that hired Steele to produce the dossier. Read that again. Ohr's wife's company hired Steele to produce a dossier. The Ohr's relationship to Steele was NOT communicated to the FISA court.
An independent unit within the FBI sought to corroborate the information in Steele's dossier. They could not do it.
Comey later described it's contents as "salacious and unverified"
McCabe testified before the Intelligence Committee that without the dossier....they wouldn't have even tried to get a FISA warrant.
So they could only authorize surveillance by using the Steele dossier. Then they concealed the massive political and financial biases surrounding the production of that dossier. They cited corroborating evidence that was planted by none other than the dossier's heavily biased author.
Epilogue: The whole Carter Page kerfuffle led to a counterintelligence investigation into George Papadopoulos by FBI lovebirds Peter Strozk and Lisa Page (no relation to Carter). Their affair was exposed along with thousands of text messages that clearly illustrate a heavy anti-trump bias, while they were actively investigating Trump associates.
The story as presented to the FISA court: British intelligence provided information prepared by one of its operatives to Senator John McCain, who gave it to the FBI. The information detailed the existence of meetings between high ranking Russian officials and Trump Campaign manager Paul Manafort, and Trump volunteer advisor Carter Page. The substance of those meetings was to arrange the hacking of DNC email, the subsequent public release of those emails, and associated cover ups. Russians also claimed to have compromising information that could be used to blackmail Trump. The information in this dossier is given credibility by way of corroborating reports in Yahoo news.
The REAL story....
Everything above plus
*The British operative was hired by Trump's opposition
*The British operative expressed a bias that was subsequently described by a DOJ official as "desperate"
*That DOJ official's wife is the one who hired the British guy in the first place.
*That DOJ official's assessment of the British guy's bias was purposefully omitted from the FISA application
*That DOJ official did not disclose his wife's connection to the dossier to the FISA court.
*Yahoo news' reports corroborated Steele's information because it was given to them by Steele. This information was omitted from the FISA application.
*Independent attempts by the FBI to corroborate Steele's information were unsuccessful.
*The FISA application, and subsequent renewals were signed by Comey, who described the dossier as "salacious and unverified"
Also worthy of mention...if the dossier is to be believed, then that means that Manafort and Page can provide testimony supporting the allegations of Russian collusion. Both are under indictment and as of yet, have not invoked that "get out of jail free" card. How can that be if the dossier is accurate?
This also absolutely DESTROYS any argument that Trump fired Comey because he was stupid enough to think it could stop the Russia investigation. It also strongly suggests that the Mueller probe is completely without merit, as it was based on "salacious and unverified" information. That to me, seems like an excellent reason to fire Mueller.
Mueller and Comey didn't just find this stuff out today like we did. They knew all along.
Comey knew this was bogus and signed the FISA applications anyway. That's either gross incompetence, or pervasive political bias. Either way, he can NOT be director of the FBI anymore.
McCabe told Reince Preibus "this [Russia Investigation] is total bullshit". He knew all this stuff too. He knew the FISA application was improper. He signed it anyway. Again, it's either incompetence, or pervasive political bias interfering with his ability to be objective in his job. It's no coincidence that McCabe took terminal leave the same day the committee voted to release the memo.
That just leaves Mueller. I'm finding it hard to understand why firing him would be such a bad idea.
Don't forget that the author of the Yahoo! article was working for Fusion GPS at the time.
AND HE STILL WON
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018...memo-says.html
So Hillary didn't just buy the dossier, apparently she helped write it too.
lol....Quote:
Originally Posted by BananaStand
So was she hypnotized by Russia, and that's what made her do it?
Woman goes to anti-Trump rally, gets car trouble on way home, gets it swiftly fixed by random redneck, is conflicted since somebody she thought she hated was so great to her.
http://www.tampabay.com/opinion/colu...ies-_165095870
The disdain for Trump (not disagreement, but disdain) is ENTIRELY a skin in the game problem. Believe me.
Speaking of such an incredibly useful concept, from Taleb's new book, awesomely describes what skin in the game really is
https://i.imgur.com/627teN1.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/W6zb8yb.jpg
Some y'all may really like the Taleb excerpt given that he doesn't conclude that free markets are the solution to the government skin in the game problem.
With me being from NC, this has been making the rounds in my social circles. Here's the most telling part for me:Quote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
Here, she's right on the edge of taking personal responsibility for how she feels...Quote:
As I drove home, I felt the full extent to which Trump has actually diminished my own desire to be kind. He is keeping me so outraged that I hold ill will toward others on a daily basis.
...and then she misses it completely.Quote:
Trump is not just ruining our nation, he is ruining me.
This sums up their mentality absolutely perfectly.
Yeah I totally saw that. It's cognitive dissonance up the yazoo.Quote:
Originally Posted by spoonitnow
Never go full social justice
https://scontent-sjc3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...44&oe=5B162671
ikr
The most fucked up part is that meme is inaccurate. The facts are so much worse.
Steele was "desperate for Trump not to get elected". He told that to Bruce Ohr, whose WIFE works at the firm that hired Steele. Then Mr. Ohr conveniently left that information out of the FISA application.
Furthemore, it is inaccurate to say that Steele "asked his Russian buddies for whatever damaging information they had on Trump". A more accurate statement would be that Steele "asked Russians for whatever damaging information on Trump that they had received from Hillary".
The Clinton Campaign planted the dirt with their Russian contacts, then sent Steele to find it.
Correction: Obama planted some of the dirt too.
At this point, what difference does it make?Quote:
Originally Posted by BananaStand
AND HE STILL WON
It makes a difference because this....Quote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
....isn't good enough. He can't just beat this bullshit, he has to END it. That's what 'drain the swamp' means.Quote:
Originally Posted by spoonitnow
It worked for Clinton.Quote:
Originally Posted by BananaStand
We'll see how it goes. The deep state may be too deep. I don't think he can do it alone.Quote:
Originally Posted by BananaStand
It doesn't help that the MSM characterizes any swamp-draining as Nixonian retaliation tactics.Quote:
Originally Posted by spoonitnow
Comey got fired for a good reason. The press says Trump did it to obstruct justice.
Be Trump
Create the best brand in politics history
#MAGA
Find off-limits area of advertising to make my niche
#G.I.JOEDUKAKIS
Watch as I market in such a way nobody else knew how to or had the balls to
Just Very Stable Genius things