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So, went downtown last night to have a smoothie at a Tropical Smoothie store place. Sitting there doing my own thing just enjoying my time alone, then some RANDOM ass mother fucker walks up in the store, comes over to me and says "Hi, I knew if I didn't come up to you and talk to you I'd regret it." - to put this in short, he was trying hard, and I was not having any of it. He kept putting ideas of who I am on me, TOUCHING MY FUCKING HAIR, and gave me a god damn nickname. "Buffy" - the vampire slayer lady. MOTHER FUCKER AINT KNOW ME. HE TOUCHED MY FUCKING HAIR. AND MY ARM. HE TOUCHED MY HAIR AND ARM. Mother fucker kept trying to showboat fucking hard about all these places he's been and how he loves to wear suits. OH, and about how he LOVED how I was able to have a conversation. MOTHER FUCKER DID YOU THINK I WAS DENSE BECAUSE I WAS SITTING ALONE ENJOYIN' MY MOTHER FUCKIN SMOOTHIE?!?!?!?!!?
I literally cringed on the way home, and ALL I WANTED TO DO WAS ENJOY MY FUCKING FIRST TROPICAL SMOOTHIE EXPERIENCE. Next time I'm taking my book ABOUT being an introvert in an extroverted world, so maybe mother fuckers will fuck the fuck off. Oh, and I'm too nice, because I gave this mother fucker my phone number. However, there is a reject list, and guess what mother fuckkkkerrrrrr - you AIN'T GONNA TOUCH MY HAIR AND WE AIN'T GONNA MEET UP AT THE GOD DAMN MALL SO YOU CAN PUT SOME MORE MOTHER FUCKIN LABELS ON ME AND TOUCH MY HAIR.
I told my Mom all this, and she was laughing so hard she wasn't making noise. Fucking. Fuck. FUCK. TOUCHED. MY. HAIR. myakjeflkawejflakwefj CRINGING TAKING PLACE.
OH! OH! AND THIS MOTHER FUCKER SAID HE CAN KIND OF FEEL FOR ELLIOT RODGER. MOTHER. FUCKER. WHAT?!
My reply was, "Well, on the mental illness standpoint, yes, otherwise, no."
can you blame him for just wanting to get destroyed by sunshine and kittens?
cliffs: some guy ran down the pua checklist with a weak frame and still got michelle's number
Where you have a valid point, I was not having any of it. It was like talking to the most try-hard dude ever. I showed my friend a picture of him on FB, and friend was like OMGHESCUTE, and I was like "Yeah, talk to him for 30 fucking seconds, you'll be cringing."
lol fuck you. I've already blocked the number. It was terrible. I need to become more of a cunt VS feeling like I have to be nice to random mother fuckers.
Mom was laughing so hard when I told her about it this morning that it was the laugh where there's no sound. I still cringe. Just, holy fuck.
Also, rofl: Doubtful on that taking place with spoon, but roflroflroflrofl nice.
In other news I went hiking for a couple hours today and read some of a book beside a huge ass waterfall. I pretty much speed walked all the way up, which was about idk, a mile or 2 up, and then did the same on the way down, whilst singing whatever came on my playlist. Singing + speed walking = good lung workout. I got kinda down this morning and said NOPE FUCK THAT IM BADASS MOTHA'FUCKIN' MICHELLE, I GOT THIS SHIT.
I don't get the bitter peach part. Like, the jealous person is bitter, but why peach? Is this some sort of southern phrase? What am I missing?
Yeah Chelle that's the kind of seduction they teach you on the internet he tried to pull. These people tend to lack in some basic people reading skills that's probably why it became so uncomfortable don't worry about it.
@bold, that's not really an accurate description imo. While the individual things he did do have their place in PUA-style seduction (though there are other styles "from the Internet" that are often lumped in with PUA tactics that aren't really), the context for them is so much more important. I'd bet about anything that he just skimmed a couple of approach posts and then tried to throw 50 things at the wall hoping one would stick, and that's not really what's being taught. It's like a guy skimming a couple of poker posts and decides that continuation betting, 3-betting and stealing blinds are good moves and then just does them every chance he gets without any context for when or why. It's not going to usually turn out well.
I'll have to say this though. As horrible as it sounded, he's still got an infinitely larger chance of success than a guy who doesn't approach. I'll give a more thorough breakdown of what he did vs. what he would have done if he understood the context if there's interest.
Okay I'm bored waiting for Game of Thrones to download and for supper to be finished so I'll run through some of this real quick. Generally speaking, PUA-style game circa late 1990s is very tactic-heavy because it was created by guys with low natural social skills randomly trying things and seeing what worked and what didn't. It was built up basically through experimentation, and it pales in comparison to guys now who actually learn how social dynamics work and go from there. I'm not personally a fan of PUA-style game because it doesn't actually help guys to learn any social skills aside from getting over approach anxiety. Anyway, here are some quick notes (all within the context of PUA-style game):
This is a bad opener because it immediately puts the girl on a pedestal and puts the guy in the chasing role which is the exact opposite of what PUA-style openers are supposed to do.Quote:
"Hi, I knew if I didn't come up to you and talk to you I'd regret it."
If you ever seem like you're trying hard, then you're doing it wrong, and this is one of the first things that is drilled over and over again if you're learning that particular type of pickup.Quote:
He was trying hard
This is a real giveaway on what type of information this guy is getting. Using truisms and cold reading was one of the hallmarks of late 90s PUA-style game, and it can still be effective if you haven't already turned the girl off by being a tryhard. It's much easier and effective more often to just pick on the girl a little though.Quote:
He kept putting ideas of who I am on me
Escalating to physical touch is an extremely important part of any type of game framework. However, it should only come after the girl is demonstrating that she's interested in you/attracted to you. PUA-style game uses the term "indicator of interest" or IOI for short (which I think looks gay), and they have a list of actual things that you can look for to help socially inept people figure out if she's flirting back. A lot of the time, you're taught to actually count the IOIs and not to escalate to physical touch until you get X number of them (something like 3-5?). This guy is obviously doing it wrong because [as she says] she wasn't interested, and that's why she had this kind of reaction to him touching her.Quote:
TOUCHING MY FUCKING HAIR...HE TOUCHED MY FUCKING HAIR. AND MY ARM. HE TOUCHED MY HAIR AND ARM
The random nickname thing, and the example of Buffy in particular, is cookie cutter late 90s PUA-style schtick. This particular tactic in this particular situation fails to do this guy any favors because he's not been building attraction on any level.Quote:
...and gave me a god damn nickname. "Buffy" - the vampire slayer lady...
Again with him looking like he's trying hard to impress her. These are (again) cookie cutter talking points that can be effective within a properly-managed situation using this particular style of game. The problem is that it's very delicate and comes across and trying to prove his worth to her if it's not handled the right way.Quote:
Mother fucker kept trying to showboat fucking hard about all these places he's been and how he loves to wear suits.
A "neg" is a tactic from the same style of pickup that I've been mentioning over and over again that is a compliment that could also be taken as an insult, and if it's executed properly within the right context, then it allows you to compliment a girl without making it seem like you're of a lower value than her. The implication with [yet another cookie cutter] example here is that he sure is glad she can carry on a conversation because either she looks dumb or her looks aren't sufficient to keep him interested or whatever. He probably told her that he liked her hair and then immediately asked if that was her natural color too.Quote:
OH, and about how he LOVED how I was able to have a conversation. MOTHER FUCKER DID YOU THINK I WAS DENSE
A better opener would be, "What kind of nerd sits around reading in a smoothie shop?"Quote:
Next time I'm taking my book ABOUT being an introvert in an extroverted world, so maybe mother fuckers will fuck the fuck off.
This is a hot topic in pickup and game communities right now, so once again this guy probably just spouted out some talking point that he skimmed over when he really should have just kept that shit to himself because the context wasn't right and he probably didn't know enough about what he was talking about to discuss it intelligently anyway.Quote:
OH! OH! AND THIS MOTHER FUCKER SAID HE CAN KIND OF FEEL FOR ELLIOT RODGER. MOTHER. FUCKER. WHAT?!
This deserves a quick explanation as to why this is a hot topic: Elliot grew up with a really fucked up world view (thanks primarily to his father who, among other things, refused to acknowledge him as his son) which turned him into a massive narcissist, racist, misanthrope (not just misogynist) who couldn't reconcile the values he had been taught from his upbringing (money > *) with his lack of social status. A large portion of the game/pickup and red pill communities believe that there's a good chance that Elliot could have become a fairly decent person if he would have had positive male leadership in his life and a way to improve his inept social skills which led to him having a total meltdown that ended with him killing the people he did.
Something that's interesting is that Elliot was very vocal on forums expressing the viewpoint that his family's money and his looks (he wasn't a bad-looking guy despite being small) should have been sufficient to have success with females and that he shouldn't have to learn social skills. Almost all media outlets are saying that he was a part of the relationship red pill community because of his rants on the PUAhate forums, but that's not true. He was on the polar opposite end of the spectrum.
People take this shit far too seriously. Surely if you have to try so hard it's fairly pointless unless you're just trying to get off with them.
Yeah. Don't care. Shit ruined my wanting to enjoy a fucking smoothie and chill the fuck out, alone.
TIL spoon is a PUA. I also learned what a "PUA" is. enlightening.
all hail glorious /r/redpill obv.
My thoughts on PUAs are as follows:
http://www.quickmeme.com/img/a0/a0ed...b95d9aaa99.jpg
If you manipulate someone for your own personal[sexual] gain, you need to be taking care of other aspects in your life, like your corrupt views of how to treat humans. If you want to seduce a woman, or man for that matter whatever floats their boat, do it with honesty.
Idk, that's just my opinion, and we all have opinions.
Man, fuuuuuuuuuuuck sunroofs. Without thinking, because sometimes I have the dumb, I drove everywhere today with the thing that covers the sunroof open, so the sun was coming through while I was out. My right arm, top of my back, and left arm = dark pink. I'm shivvering, and feel sick. Fucking what even.
so uncouth these southern trailer-dwelling types are :x
bling blang blaow.
I actually guessed that was what it stood for when I saw that being thrown around a few other times. Never looked into it to see that guys broke it down into some kind of science. That seems weird. I can't picture someone who isn't good at talking to people ever following this steps and not coming off as super awkward and/or creepy.
Are there any guys on this forum that haven't been able to talk to women that started using this and were successful? Speak up in the name of science please!
You don't need this PUA shit, just a POF account. Shit gets easy then
Sometimes I'm concerned that if I roll my eyes too hard they're gonna get stuck, and I won't be able to function as good.
There's an FTR regular who I'm not going to name (and Chelle knows who this is too and I trust that she won't name him either) who came to me with some problems with women a few years ago. His girlfriend had gotten naked at a party and ran around dancing on tables and shit, and he wasn't sure if he should break up with her or not which (and he'll agree) is a pretty straight-forward yes and it's not even close. I helped to ease him into a more moderate schooling of game than strict PUA tactics, and he's doing quite well. He's happier, more successful and does much, much better with women.
Consevative/red pill relationship game would probably jive better with the FTR crowd than pure late 90s PUA cookie cutter material.
To me there's a difference in being a PUA and just having 'game', or learning your own style of 'game'. But yeah, that was a 10000% yes on that issue.
We're complex creatures, both men and women - and spewing out some lines and trying to string a female to your bed for a little bit of entertainment seems pretty disrespectful to the whole human population. Being honest, in my opinion, shows confidence - females like that. Hell, males love a confident women, at least a strong male does. Some get ignorant and try to suppress a females confidence. But, then again, the same can be said for a female trying to dim a males' confidence.
In other news - I put apple cider vinegar on my sunburn, and the redness is mostly gone. Yay!
Isn't that just about not being a pussy though? I checked out some videos on Youtube by "experts" (I don't know who are the actual experts and who's just claiming to be for views) and there are some serious cringe moments in their videos, it just feels very forced and scripted and I'm surprised the girls don't pick up on this. Or maybe the girls don't care? I guess everyone has a few stories failing pretty hard trying to get to know a girl and being successful despite it. Anyway, I guess if I were a single guy and I were using these kinds of scripted checklists I'd feel way more self-conscious about how lame I sounded doing it than how lame I could make myself sound on my own.
I guess spoon gonna disagree with me, but my take on it is that a decent part of it is that the guys feel totally lost talking to girls and so are nervous wrecks - give them some kind of a, like, framework and they're not so nervous any more (not feeling totally lost any more and if it goes wrong it's the internet expert's bad instructions' fault not mine, etc.), which is what's doing the magic rather than the 'game' itself.
source: i have read 'the game', although that's admittedly more a story than instructions
i'm pretty damn shit at women but all this checklist "PUA" stuff is fucking hilarious, even to me. i'm guessing kiwi's right that it's intended to help/profit from (?) extreme introverts/people suffering from acute social anxiety etc
This is a degree of it for a number of guys who get into it. Many aren't necessarily nervous talking to girls, but have been given such bad advice growing up that they don't see success. I would say a solid 30-40 percent are not scared to talk to a girl, and for the other 60-70 percent, the first step is just forcing them to approach. Once you get them approaching, then you work refining the social skills to actually make it work.
A lot of men are raised to be pussies by people with the best of intentions, and without a strong father figure (or other mentor figure) to get them out of it, they're on their own.
As far as the scripted checklist thing goes, that's a weak form of game that's typically given to newer guys who just need somewhere to start so that they can get used to approaching. Like I mentioned to kiwiMark above, once you get them approaching, you want to get them to move past that scripted type of scenario as quickly as possible.
It's a lot like learning anything else, really.
do you coach "game" as well as poker spoon? why do you know so much about this
Now I have to visit that silly sub again...
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My Message is a reminder to never let your guard down and slip back to bluepill, you need redpill to get women’s attention, but you also need it to keep those women you love. You can love them, but dont ever let them know it, dont make my mistake.
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As Alpha men, we must first assume what we have been told is a lie, make a judgement on the consequences of acting on that lie, and then determine our course of action based on those consequences.
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I keep my promises. If you tell a broad you are going to drop kick her car into next year if she doesn't bring you bear by noon, then guess what you gotta do if she doesn't follow through? Follow through.
None of these people are happy. I can feel their repressed tears through the screen.
http://www.businessinsider.com/the-red-pill-reddit-2013-8
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The prime candidates for this community generally seem to be men who, for whatever reason, have had bad luck with women or have been otherwise wronged by a female.
And there you have it. I can't think of a worse place to learn about being a "masculine man" than a community of wronged dorks who fail at relationships so bad that they need to participate in some silly "man up and hide your feelings" community. Most of it sounds like lessons in faux confidence. How men 'should' act with little of any mention of how to attain real confidence.
Keep cherry-picking, but that article at http://www.businessinsider.com/the-r...-reddit-2013-8 is so full of blatant lies that it's ridiculous, and the TRP subreddit is a very small, heavily-PUA leaning part of the whole, and neither of these are representative of TRP as a whole.
Here's a much better explanation: http://theredpillroom.blogspot.com/2...d-pill-is.html
Cliffs: PUA:TRP::Westboro Baptist:Christianity
hmm yeah all this TRP PUA game theory of seduction shit is new to me but goddamn they come across as a bunch of miserable cunts. it's pretty much a disgruntled community for the ugliest and most socially retarded people to console one another, confirm each other's "manlihood", and attempt to help one another make the most of what little social capital they can muster between them to try to manipulate women to their ends, right? i mean, is that not pretty much the function and demographic of that community in reality? i'm not surprised there's a strong stench of misogyny and macho insecurity when it's a community which naturally attracts that demographic and serves that purpose. that article goes on about how there is no subtext, no ideology, implicit worldview or assumptions about gender relations etc, it's just a community of blokes committed to helping each other get laid more. then a few paragraphs in:
"The true Red Pill man does not blame women for what they have become. He merely recognizes the paucity of quality women in our society"
"The Red Pill doesn't blame women for the "defects innate to the female sex", it accepts them and teaches strategies of how to counter them"
.... oh please
^ not intended as an attack on spoon. more a product of my distaste for the "masculinity" advocated by this red pill thing
This is not random nor is it interesting. 911 call to Lukie imo
Notes as I read through your post:
A very small part of TRP spectrum is about seduction, and not all of that part of the spectrum is PUA-related. Manhood isn't confirmed, but it is encouraged for men to improve themselves for the sake of their own manhood. The manipulation of women is not a major part of the equation except in that small slice which is PUA-related, as mentioned numerous times. The function of that community is to give means and advice to men on how to improve themselves for themselves and not for someone else (ie: women), so your idea of it being centered around manipulating women is false. Moreover, you completely miss the same acceptance of the defects innate to the male sex and the strategies of how to counter those for self-improvement as well.
pneumonia can suck a dick.
man, why cupcakes gotta be so cute.
@spoon yeah fuck knows why i do that sometimes. must have been menstruating. do ignore plz
I live alone in a 2nd floor apartment which is entirely soundproof for reasons unknown to me. When I wake up and make coffee I practice animal sounds, which is perfectly inconspicuous during the winter. Not so much when I left all windows open during the night and forget about it in the morning. I hope my neighbors respect me for my killer turkey imitation.
no homo
made fresh blueberry pancakes and topped 'em with a smashed up strawberry in some honey. yeah, it was fucking amazing.
Caesars on patio. Sunny day. Fuck yes.
Toronto is a hell of a town.
hello infection my old friend.
my mouth is a cesspool once again.
Old Vets would die a slow death if they had come back to FTR and seen what is becoming of the Randomness thread.
I prefer Rachel McAdams. She's my type of girl
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttF4hQOQewg
I've been doing really great lately - then Saturday night it's like my brain is like HEY FEEL ALONE AND SHITTY. The grieving process is some weird shit. So yeah, yesterday, and today have also been kinda bleh. Sorry for the downer, guys. I hope everyone is doing great. <3
pro homo
I follow internet activity of terminally ill people because it makes me feel better about myself.
https://www.blogger.com/profile/11409839233219221500
http://henrysbigmouth.blogspot.co.at/2011/05/end.html
He had a youtube channel by the same name that got taken down a year or two ago. His vlogs were extremely hard to understand due to his condition. He got 5-10 views on his vlogs but he had hundreds. I believe the full name was Henry Lafont. I can't find any new information.
https://twitter.com/zokiNlive
http://www.twitch.tv/kurirko402/profile
Quadriplegic guy streams sc2, but he had a bad thing half a year ago according to his twitter, and he's either not out of rehabilitation yet or diseased. His last tweet was 'yellow!' in april this year. Was a nice guy, played sc2 with him when he was still streaming.
The most tragic one that disappeared was a mentally retarded kid that did weather reports on youtube. That honestly was the best thing ever, but the channel got taken down and I have no hopes of it reappearing.
But he's not an only repeats nines generator, he's a random number generator.
Random is one of those things that's crazy difficult to define. But the randomness is a property of the source, not the output.
Though, you're right. Listen to him say nine long enough and it's very likely he's not random.
Yeah it's tricky, I've had this discussion with people before. In say python you have a random number generator that always creates the same stream of (pseudo-)random numbers. So what exactly is random about this when it is always the same everyone wonders? You can be sure there will be no dependencies in this number stream. You can not take a subset of its output and use it to predict the rest in a way that can be generalized. That's the ideal at least and computer's pseudo-random is.. close enough.
I just straight up don't think you got the joke.
savy doesn't get the ironic anti-joke of deconstructing a dilbert comic with dorky nitpicking.
It is kinda shitty nitpicking though because the comic strip doesn't indicate that he always repeats nine.
If you want some outstanding nitpicking, why's the tour-guide red in the last panel when before that he was brown and the RNG red?
this is tits.
On the contrary, it was humor of the most genius level. He does not need to repeat only 9s for there to be a dependency on too many 9s and not random. It's like the level 2 response to the level 1 joke of the comic which is that any short series could be part of a larger random series which was itself poking fun at the level 0 observation people intuitively make that numbers need to quickly alternate for it to appear random to the untrained eye.
ass and titties, ass, ass, and titties.
omgomgomgomg final draft of essay to apply to college FINISHED.
no matter how crappy i feel due to w/e /r/tumblrinaction makes me nearly fall out of my chair laughing.
confirmed weeknd and ellie. instead of being in horrendous pain i would much rather be high for this.
[03:15pm] [bikes] A FUNGAL AND SKIN INFECTION
[03:15pm] [bikes] DHSKGAHDGS:KALJ:
[03:15pm] [bikes] NO PAIN KILLERS EITHER
[03:15pm] [bikes] SHE SAYS THERE WILL BE LOTS OF PAIN
[03:15pm] [bikes] NO SHIT
Will people please stop asking me if I have nudes of Chelle? I probably do, but I'm not sharing them unless I like you.
Any chance you like me/?
my liking of you increased when i saw banned under chipeaterman's name
I didn't pull the trigger but I banged the gavel
Ladies, this is why you don't send or allow for nudes to be taken and stored.
Nope.
Chelle, any nudes of spoon?
Nah.
o dat spoon, knowin' how to troll.