inviting ppl to clubs

I just started a home games club on pokerstars but I am finding it difficult to recruit players... it seems people who are inclined to join clubs typically already are involved in clubs and the managers of those clubs don't want you to give out your club info while in their club. I have tried to invite players while in ring games but the typical ring game player is not interested in being part of a club and seem put off by the invitation... so I am at a loss for inviting active players... my club is called Common Ground OPC id number 1970375 invite code is 3825464A I have several play money games set up and it will be fun once I get players, just can't find a sufficient way to go about it.

any advice is appreciated, also anyone interested in joining come check it out... thanks in advance

Hi drupy,

It takes a while to cultivate a loyal following in the Home Game Clubs on PokerStars. There are quite a few that are "showcased" in green text and those tend to get a larger percentage of new people to join because of that.

I think it's a good idea to post your Club info on poker forums and interact with anyone who joins in order to gain an active member list. You might also want to contact PokerStars Home Games directly ( the email address listed on the Home Games page is the generic [email protected] address) to inquire about any tips they have to get your club up and running with active members.

Best of luck!

Didn't FTR have a play money club on stars?

I recall playing a few hours heads up against chipeaterman a while back.
I was pwning him pre-flop by min-raising ATC, but I was donking off post because I couldn't get it through my skull that his tight range pre meant that I had very little equity in a lot of spots post.
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I recall we were fairly even at the end of it all.

I think what you are trying to do is very difficult. There are so many ways to play poker, and so many tournaments everybody can join, so why should they play in your club? IMO they would only do this if 1) they can play with people they know, from RL or from the forum, or 2) there is added money, sponsored tournament etc. If they don't see an incentive, they won't come and play.

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Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey

Didn't FTR have a play money club on stars?

I recall playing a few hours heads up against chipeaterman a while back.
I was pwning him pre-flop by min-raising ATC, but I was donking off post because I couldn't get it through my skull that his tight range pre meant that I had very little equity in a lot of spots post.
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I recall we were fairly even at the end of it all.

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This sounds like fun. I'd be interested in playing if someone has the details on how to join.

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Originally Posted by Sin Uggla

I think what you are trying to do is very difficult. There are so many ways to play poker, and so many tournaments everybody can join, so why should they play in your club? IMO they would only do this if 1) they can play with people they know, from RL or from the forum, or 2) there is added money, sponsored tournament etc. If they don't see an incentive, they won't come and play.

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Yeah, I think Sin Uggla has a point here. It could prove very difficult for drupy to get a club to become active for these reasons.

drupy, how about friends you know outside of the online realm? That might be a way to get them interested in the game within a comfort zone. You could always invite them to participate here to get familiar with the game & share ideas as well. :)

i get the point about incentives to play.. I guess I enjoy playing for the sake of playing, and I was hoping to find some like minded ppl to join simply to have fun. honestly I play in a club now and enjoy the actual game and the idea of just sittin around the table playin cards with friendly ppl. i'm startin to sound fuggin lonely and pathetic here but hopefully you get what I am saying. I play once or twice a week usually on the weekends, but my trouble is that I am playing against ppl whose only incentive to play is to win chips... not to have fun. so jackass calls with a weak draw post flop and a stupid win make it frustrating to even play. chips are so easy to come by these days and I feel it is ruining the actual game play of a tournament. and now since you can just purchase them there is no real value in them, and ps now limits the transfers to 1000 per day so you cant even offer bounties anymore. im starting to think it isn't even worth the time, obviously there are few ppl who have this viewpoint. thanks for taking an interest though I appreciate the help. idk.. I have tournaments scheduled from midnight til 9 pm, mostly hold em but some stud some 5 draw some Omaha hi lo and one badugi for shits and grins..... mid to high buy ins (2k to 6K play chips) ill leave it open to anyone surely there are some players out there that think this way too. the invite info is at the beginning of this thread you are welcome at my table any time... thanks again!!

Your head is kind of in the wrong place on the whole winning chips vs. having fun thing.

First of all, I have more fun when I'm winning than when I'm losing. The subtext of your sentiment implies that you feel the same.
"Making money is fun," is, in fact, FTR's motto.

Second of all, players calling with weak hands and playing generally badly is not hurting your winrate. People playing badly, making loose calls, aggro bluffing nearly every hand... these are things that make the game soft, easy, and highly beatable. YES, you will lose some big pots when Villain's catch their draws. The point is that you bet in such a way that you still win more in the long run. Bet so their pot odds to call are terrible and be mindful not to pay off every time a draw comes in. If you're smart, you can size your bets and calls so that you win even when you lose, since they did not win enough from you to justify their weak call. Poker is awesome, and your control is subtle. If you turn your attention to the long term, you will win.

Finally. Dude. You're talking play money. It never had any value. I played on stars play money tables for years and years. I'm talking from experience.
I built my initial play money role up to the cap (20 million, IIRC) and then did 1 million chip donations to until I was back down to 2 million and then I'd push it up again. I know I did this at least 2 times, then I just started donating and keeping my roll around 10 million.

The point is not to brag. The point is that I was really good on stars play money tables. Then I made a deposit and was losing money for the first month or so playing 5NL on Bovada. My point is that no matter how good you are at play money games on stars, the lack of real $$$$ on the table means that the competition is super soft.

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Originally Posted by dhubermex

This sounds like fun. I'd be interested in playing if someone has the details on how to join.

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I think it would have fun that FTR creates a HomeGames.
I' m registered in some other poker sites and we have HomeGames and it's very funny.

I play real money games only, so I guess I play Pokerstars Homegames only when a giftcard or other incentive is on the line.

ok you are taking this to mean I ma not a good player..... I have millions as well and have done the cycling you are talking about as well... my point being other players constantly "playing the program" rather than "playing" poker... obviously it is more fun to win money than to lose money. since you can't win money on stars in America, you are pushed to have an exciting game somehow, so to feel that excitement of winning a monster pot jackass calls are becoming rapidly increased, and to attract that feeling of winning to more ppl their program rewards the idiots.... all I am saying is I enjoy playing the game to figure out my opponents and I enjoy sitting around the table chatting and bullshitting with friends and lighthearted banter..... winning money is not the incentive when you sit down to a table full of friends and family, you are there to just have fun and goof around, this is what I would like to see happen in my club. I don't think "my head is in the wrong place" at all.

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Originally Posted by drupydroors

since you can't win money on stars in America, you are pushed to have an exciting game somehow, so to feel that excitement of winning a monster pot jackass calls are becoming rapidly increased, and to attract that feeling of winning to more ppl their program rewards the idiots.... all I am saying is I enjoy playing the game to figure out my opponents and I enjoy sitting around the table chatting and bullshitting with friends and lighthearted banter..... winning money is not the incentive when you sit down to a table full of friends and family,

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OMG , now you are saying that play money games are rigged. Most of us are here to play and improve at poker so that we win more money. Sure , we play in social events , like the original stars and fulltilt freerolls when i originally signed up here where the banter was part f the experience and the gauntlet games when they run.That is only a very small % of poker that most people here play. we are focussed on playing for money.

I completely get that dude. but if you seriously think that this computer game that you are playing does not have a program running it that is designed and ran by humans who are seeking to interest more ppl to play their game you are completely misguided. it is called elimination software... also created and ran by humans. there isn't some midget in your screen dealing you freakin cards man. come on. we have completely gotten off the subject here. as I said I am seeking people who enjoy "playing the game" "having fun" "sitting around the table chatting, bull shitting each other and enjoying playing poker" I get that "most people" are here to simply feed their fuggin ego and make their fake chip wallet fatter, and maybe pay enough money to the midget in the screen to get another star around their picture... I am not looking for people like that, I am looking for that "very small percent" who actually enjoy the game the way I do, and I have said that several times. if you want to improve your game, your actual game, doing it against a villain avatar in your basement for fake chips is not the way to do it. I like how you are trying to school me like I am some kind of moron, fuck.. I am sorry I tried to find like minded people here. I mean seriously ... what if I said I will give the first 50 ppl to join 50K in play chips, would that seriously interest ppl enough to play?

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Originally Posted by drupydroors

I completely get that dude. but if you seriously think that this computer game that you are playing does not have a program running it that is designed and ran by humans who are seeking to interest more ppl to play their game you are completely misguided. it is called elimination software... also created and ran by humans. there isn't some midget in your screen dealing you freakin cards man. come on.

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Its about time you "come on" . The poker sites use random numbers to generate the cards that are dealt and the hands that are dealt are then submitted to scrutinisers to check that the distribution of hands dealt is random. If you play enough hands or aggregate up hands then the randomness can also be checked by sites like pokertableratings.If the software was "fixed" so that the idiots always won , people would have no confidence in it and wouldn't play. The sites wouldn't have any income but still have staff and other fixed costs to pay and they would go bust . SItes that have gone bust however doesn't imply it was because they were fixed. Ultimate bet did have a superuser that was discovered by players because his play and winnings were far out of the normally expected range. The fact that it was discovered helps to keep other sites on the ball .

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we have completely gotten off the subject here. as I said I am seeking people who enjoy "playing the game" "having fun" "sitting around the table chatting, bull shitting each other and enjoying playing poker" I get that "most people" are here to simply feed their fuggin ego and make their fake chip wallet fatter, and maybe pay enough money to the midget in the screen to get another star around their picture...

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by playing play money poker on the pretense that there are no real money option available to you is disingenuous.You clearly distrust the software,however , without the money aspect you lose part of the game. no one cares if they lose play chips , it makes no difference to them , so they call with trash and occasionally get lucky. Those times stick in your memory because you are aggrieved that you lost when you had the best hand initially and got sucked out on . The times they lose you forget about because that was down to your superior play and you got the chips you expected to win.

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I am not looking for people like that, I am looking for that "very small percent" who actually enjoy the game the way I do, and I have said that several times. if you want to improve your game, your actual game, doing it against a villain avatar in your basement for fake chips is not the way to do it.

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Jeez , we aren't playing for fake chips , we are playing for real money . As soon as we leave the table we can cash it out. When you leave the table you can admire your pile of fake chips.

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I like how you are trying to school me like I am some kind of moron, fuck.. I am sorry I tried to find like minded people here. I mean seriously ... what if I said I will give the first 50 ppl to join 50K in play chips, would that seriously interest ppl enough to play?

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So you see that virtually everybody else on this site is playing for real money , so what kind of intellect do you need in order to think that an offer of 50k play chips will get people to leave winning money at real money tables and play for play money. It's likely that you will still be waiting for the 10th guy to sign up this time next year.

to reinforce the point, dropped down and played 10 tables of 2nl with no HUD.These are the results that you could be getting if you start to learn how to improve your play and start playing with real money, post hands and study. When we can get these results , why would we want to play with play chips.
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ok clearly you have completely misunderstood everything I have said... you keep coming back to real money poker. and I keep telling you I am not looking for ppl to join with the intention of winning money. I have told you my club is on pokerstars, where they don't offer real money games to americans. I am an American looking for people that have the same feelings about play money games on pokerstars, nothing else. you said yourself these fake cards are dealt and then sent to "scrutinisers" so your counterpoint helps to back up the idea of corruption by human interaction... i'm gonna leave that point to stand alone. yes, there are other sites I have been told about that offer real money play and I am looking into them. when this thread was created I was simply wanting to know if there were any other people interested in joining a play money club with the intention of just simply having fun, not for financial gain or even necessarily to make their chip stack bigger. this doesn't mean to abandon your goals or other games you currently enjoy playing for those reasons, but as an opportunity to connect with similar players with a similar goal. I am not asking anybody if they want to be an exclusive player to my club by any means, and I don't mean to imply that it would be more fun than winning a large sum of money on another site. I was simply wondering if there was anybody out there that was interested in playing cards once in a while "just to have fun" you and I have started down an argument that is regretful and ridiculous, and for that I apologize, however I am still interested if those people are out there. if so I would love to sit down to a table and play a game or two with ya. but if people are not interested, then ok. but surely I am not the only player on pokerstars play money tables that feels this way, but keith, if you are the cross section of this poker forum, then your argument about "why would you play for fake chips" makes sense... why would you? if the only interest in poker you have is generating money, then you would not be on pokerstars fake money tables. here is my point, if you are not solely interested in playing for real money, and you do play for fake chips on pokerstars, are you frustrated with the way people have started playing, and are you interested in once in a while playing "just for fun" with other good players, who also are frustrated with jack asses and simply want to play with other good players, and just "have fun"... I am done with this forum thing after this post, it has completely taken the drive out of my intention. I will leave the forum and let you have the last word if you want it. the floor is yours. the club will remain open with the codes above and if anybody is interested, join up, if not ... don't.. if you want to join and need chips I will gladly give you some of mine, just ask. best regards. take care and have fun... laters.

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Originally Posted by drupydroors

ok clearly you have completely misunderstood everything I have said... you keep coming back to real money poker. and I keep telling you I am not looking for ppl to join with the intention of winning money. I have told you my club is on pokerstars, where they don't offer real money games to americans. I am an American looking for people that have the same feelings about play money games on pokerstars, nothing else. you said yourself these fake cards are dealt and then sent to "scrutinisers" so your counterpoint helps to back up the idea of corruption by human interaction...

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The certification bodies are independent and verify that the Random number generators do indeed produce a random deal of cards. In that they are fairer than some casino's who may unwittingly employ some crooked dealers. Their is no human interaction in the cards that are dealt . The sites are dealing millions of hands a day , manually adjusting the cards dealt is just ludicrous . You just want a cop out for not playing real money poker by saying that the sites are rigged . You certainly don't want to admit that you aren't as good a player as you and your mates think they are and any money you or they lost in the past was due to a lack of skill.

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i'm gonna leave that point to stand alone. yes, there are other sites I have been told about that offer real money play and I am looking into them. when this thread was created I was simply wanting to know if there were any other people interested in joining a play money club with the intention of just simply having fun, not for financial gain or even necessarily to make their chip stack bigger. this doesn't mean to abandon your goals or other games you currently enjoy playing for those reasons, but as an opportunity to connect with similar players with a similar goal. I am not asking anybody if they want to be an exclusive player to my club by any means, and I don't mean to imply that it would be more fun than winning a large sum of money on another site. I was simply wondering if there was anybody out there that was interested in playing cards once in a while "just to have fun".

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The problem that you face is that many of your target market would never be found on a poker site like FTR. you could probably split the poker market into three sections , play money , free rollers and real money. As a huge sweeping generalization , play money players have no interest in depositing real money to a poker site fearing that it is rigged(look at your comments) . when people are winning regularly at play money they think they will try freerolls in order to have a chance at winning real money . when they win small amounts at freerolls they then take those winnings to real money tables and pretty soon lose that money . when they have gone through that cycle a couple of time or by looking through lobbies looking for freerolls they come across freerolls from poker forums and try and get into the freerolls.These people aren't looking to go back to play money , they are looking to get into as many freerolls as they can and try and build up a bank roll.
The clever ones will actually get involved in those forums and post hands for feedback and criticism. They'll learn strategy , bet sizing , ranges, hand reading etc and get better at poker and will build freeroll winnings into actual real money bankrolls.People do not move back to play money once they realize that they can win money in freerolls. That is the point that you are missing.

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you and I have started down an argument that is regretful and ridiculous, and for that I apologize, however I am still interested if those people are out there. if so I would love to sit down to a table and play a game or two with ya. but if people are not interested, then ok. but surely I am not the only player on pokerstars play money tables that feels this way, but keith, if you are the cross section of this poker forum, then your argument about "why would you play for fake chips" makes sense... why would you? if the only interest in poker you have is generating money, then you would not be on pokerstars fake money tables.

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Like I said, the people you are looking to attract aren't likely to be at FTR. You will be more likely to find people via facebook etc or you could try freeroll forums.If you offer a 2$ prize for winning a tournament payable via paypal or something , you will get sign ups , whether you get any interaction is another matter.

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here is my point, if you are not solely interested in playing for real money, and you do play for fake chips on pokerstars, are you frustrated with the way people have started playing, and are you interested in once in a while playing "just for fun" with other good players, who also are frustrated with jack asses and simply want to play with other good players, and just "have fun"...

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That is the biggest indicator that you are not a good player. Those jackasses are your bread and butter and will spew chips liberally . you have to be in pots against them and hoover those spewed chips up. bad beats are just the tax you pay in order to get most of their money back.You should be trying to play against those guys , not trying to avoid them.Work out what ranges of cards are good against them and take them on . stick with it until you bust them.

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I am done with this forum thing after this post, it has completely taken the drive out of my intention. I will leave the forum and let you have the last word if you want it. the floor is yours. the club will remain open with the codes above and if anybody is interested, join up, if not ... don't.. if you want to join and need chips I will gladly give you some of mine, just ask. best regards. take care and have fun... laters.

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the proof of the pudding is in the eating . if you don't get signups from poker forums at least you will know why.

look--- I have no fear of depositing real money into an account I did it for many years and have played for quite some time. the idea that you say I am not a good player based on the fact that I am not able to deposit money into an account (due to laws in America) is offensive and rude. now again you come back to real money sites as a basis for your argument, I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT HOW THINGS ARE RAN AT A FRIGGING CASINO WEBSITE. I AM TALKING ABOUT THE PLAY MONEY TABLES AT POKERSTARS. they are simply not ran with the scrutiny of real money tables which are regulated by the gaming commission, it would be a complete waste of resources to have people on payroll to monitor and regulate the order and frequency of winning cards that do not bring revenue to their site. and furthermore to pay a government agency either federal, state, or local to monitor a play money game is Ludacris, so the play money games are ran by a computer governed by a program created by officers of their website who are paid to generate interest in their website... I cannot make my point on this any clearer to you on this subject. do not bring that into this conversation again. now I am not saying I cannot, or will not play at another casino style site for real money out of the fear of it being rigged, that was never part of this conversation until you brought it into the mix. and as I said.... "if you, keith, are the cross section of this forum, then you are right, it wouldn't make sense to join such a club, considering you (meaning everyone you represent here) are solely interested in making money (at casino style sites, not at stars)" now what I am looking for is people who would be interested in having a game with people who, like me are interested in just "having fun" I did not ask about people who are like you who are only interested in making money. and I did not say that I thought this game would be more fun than playing for real money, nor did I ask anybody to join up for the purpose of playing for real money. now you cannot tell me with any form of reason that this kind of player does not exist in this forum... take a look through this thread and you will see people saying a play money game on stars may be fun. furthermore this "gauntlet" tournament seems to be exactly that, and is seemingly a popular thing. as you are looking back through this thread, notice the original post was seeking advice on inviting people into a play money club, not seeking advice on how to make my game better on real money sites, but thanks for the stats and figures. when I joined this forum I kind of figured it would be a place to seek out people who have the same interests as me, I did not figure on talking to keith about how good keith is and what interests keith has. if you are interested in what I am interested in then I would love to talk with you and maybe play a game or two (once in a while for fun) with you. if you are like keith and not interested in anything but playing for real money at casino based sites, then keep doing what you do, have fun and good luck to ya, I am not asking you to abandon your game and play for fake chips, that would not be fun for you. that being said, no need to respond to this thread as it is nothing you would be interested in anyhow.

I think the point you might not be seeing, drupy, is that we who play real money poker still get all that joy and friendly banter and community.

What you're looking to establish is out there, but it's not exclusive to play money tables. People do have house parties where they play poker for chips, but everyone just gets chips. It's a freeroll with only bragging rights on the line. Those are fun, don't get me wrong. People do that thing.

Keith's point is valid that you've come to a place full of people who have little interest in playing poker for play money. Like all of Keith's points are valid, really.

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You seem to be upset, and have lost interest in FTR, but I'd like to note that you have been given honest feedback, in full paragraph form without any name calling and with full respect. This is what FTR offers that other sites may not.

For my 2 cents, you'd do better to get involved here. Post some hands. Respond to some threads. Establish your credibility as an interested person who is not here to scam us (nothing personal, it just happens a lot). Then invite people to play. If anyone accepts, do your best to make it happen, even if it's just you 2 playing heads-up.

Establish a pattern of being a person who is looking to have the fun, social time that you offer. I played against chipeaterman on a Stars site, just for some giggles and to play against someone on the site (which I never get to do, being in St Louis). So if you are not just some random stranger, then people will be more inclined to go outside their usual routine to interact with you.

Cheers and good luck with this.

There's no rule that you can't post play money hands on FTR.

I appreciate this post from mad mojo monkey. it is offering advice on how to accomplish the task I was originally interested in. when I posted this thread I was brand new and knew nothing of this forum. nothing of the players involved. so I was looking for the players that obviously do not for the most part exist here. the conversation quickly turned into a pissing match about how I am no good at poker, for that yes I am upset. and the idea that one person seemed to be pigeon holing every poker player to be exactly alike is frustrating to me. as far as scamming... ok, it happens. I get that, but seriously I was looking for advice and it turned into something greatly different. as far as posting on this forum... I doubt I will be doing that after this thread, I have completely lost interest in speaking to people who think I am beneath them.

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look--- I have no fear of depositing real money into an account I did it for many years and have played for quite some time. the idea that you say I am not a good player based on the fact that I am not able to deposit money into an account (due to laws in America) is offensive and rude. now again you come back to real money sites as a basis for your argument, I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT HOW THINGS ARE RAN AT A FRIGGING CASINO WEBSITE. I AM TALKING ABOUT THE PLAY MONEY TABLES AT POKERSTARS. they are simply not ran with the scrutiny of real money tables which are regulated by the gaming commission, it would be a complete waste of resources to have people on payroll to monitor and regulate the order and frequency of winning cards that do not bring revenue to their site. and furthermore to pay a government agency either federal, state, or local to monitor a play money game is Ludacris, so the play money games are ran by a computer governed by a program created by officers of their website who are paid to generate interest in their website... I cannot make my point on this any clearer to you on this subject.

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The exact same software is used on the play money tables as on the real money tables. Think about it , they have software that the rake from real money players pays the development costs on , why are they going to write different code for the play money tables.That will have huge cost implications for zero return. Its not going to happen ever. SO you have demonstrated that you don't have a clue about the software used by stars.The software gets its certification because of the real money play generating income for stars to pay for it and since its the same software used for real and play money the play money tables are not rigged in any way.
As for the "not a good player", you show a lack of poker understanding from the things that you have said in this thread.Wanting to take a break from the jackasses being a prime example.That play money software is defferent to real money software and it being rigged are further examples

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do not bring that into this conversation again. now I am not saying I cannot, or will not play at another casino style site for real money out of the fear of it being rigged, that was never part of this conversation until you brought it into the mix. and as I said.... "if you, keith, are the cross section of this forum, then you are right, it wouldn't make sense to join such a club, considering you (meaning everyone you represent here) are solely interested in making money (at casino style sites, not at stars)" now what I am looking for is people who would be interested in having a game with people who, like me are interested in just "having fun" I did not ask about people who are like you who are only interested in making money. and I did not say that I thought this game would be more fun than playing for real money, nor did I ask anybody to join up for the purpose of playing for real money. now you cannot tell me with any form of reason that this kind of player does not exist in this forum...

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look at the evidence , how many people have posted saying that they are interested in signing up for your club. none.
MOst of the people posting here are real money players or people looking to get access to the FTR sponsored tournament passwords. As i keep trying to explain to you , you are unlikely to find people looking to play playmoney poker here. You seem to think that that is me trying to put you down, im not , its just a fact.

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take a look through this thread and you will see people saying a play money game on stars may be fun. furthermore this "gauntlet" tournament seems to be exactly that, and is seemingly a popular thing. as you are looking back through this thread, notice the original post was seeking advice on inviting people into a play money club, not seeking advice on how to make my game better on real money sites, but thanks for the stats and figures. when I joined this forum I kind of figured it would be a place to seek out people who have the same interests as me, I did not figure on talking to keith about how good keith is and what interests keith has.

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Yeah look at what the people IN THIS THREAD SAID , eberretta said "so I guess I play Pokerstars Homegames only when a giftcard or other incentive is on the line." and sin uggla said"IMO they would only do this if 1) they can play with people they know, from RL or from the forum, or 2) there is added money, sponsored tournament etc. If they don't see an incentive, they won't come " .As you can see , people may join if there is a financial incentive , They aren't going to join to talk to someone they don't know for no monetary gain.

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if you are interested in what I am interested in then I would love to talk with you and maybe play a game or two (once in a while for fun) with you. if you are like keith and not interested in anything but playing for real money at casino based sites, then keep doing what you do, have fun and good luck to ya, I am not asking you to abandon your game and play for fake chips, that would not be fun for you. that being said, no need to respond to this thread as it is nothing you would be interested in anyhow.

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You really are obtuse aren't you. You cite the gauntlet as a validation of people playing socially, yet say i have no interest in playing in those social events and completely ignore the fact that i won the last gauntlet series. The point being that it was a social event amongst people that i discuss poker with on this forum . That is a different proposition than playing play money poker socially with a load of people i don't know. You'd have had far more success if you joined in talking poker on this forum and after 6months had said that you were thinking of setting up a home game club.At the moment the impression is that it will just be somewhere to vent over bad beats.