Originally Posted by
MadMojoMonkey
It's like the entire idea of uniting states is anathema to you, ong.
I'm not putting up the USA as a paragon of anything, but these united states are not living with any feeling of missing democracy or freedom. Whether or not that's appropriate in the US is a great topic for debate, but that's not what we're doing, here. Each state contributes to the "superstate's" military, but also maintains state-level military services. The people of the USA largely feel a sense of sovereignty and freedom, despite what you would probably describe as the opposite, due to their membership in the USA.
If your arguments are putting forth that this kind of superstate is bad for the UK for some reasons specific to the UK, then cool. However, if your arguments are that this style of cooperative / membership governance in a greater political union is an obvious moral wrongness, then your arguments simply aren't making that point.