It seems like this forum is missing someone who is really pro-MAGA now that the Banana guy or whatever is gone. I might fill in for a while.
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It seems like this forum is missing someone who is really pro-MAGA now that the Banana guy or whatever is gone. I might fill in for a while.
I tried to fill that role but frankly I'm not nearly interested enough in American politics.
Good because we don't want your foreigner ass sticking your fucking nose in our politics. That's why this country is going to hell in a handbasket in the first place. We've got 900 bazillion dollars to give to Israel every fucking year, but we can't get [insert anything, idk I'm too lazy to pick something] in our own goddamn country because of people like you.
I'm not going to debate anything back and forth, but I guess with my trolling history, it could be useful for me to spell out what I actually think in one place. Overall, I support Trump for some things, and I'm against him for some things.
On a macro and long-term level, I enjoyed someone who was a complete outsider beating like the top 15 people the Republican Party had to offer followed by beating Hillary Clinton, who is probably the most prolific politician we have who hasn't been president. I love that the guy the left likes to call a "failed reality TV star who was banging porn stars while his wife was pregnant" or whatever is the guy who beat them all because it really brought to light how disconnected politicians are from the people they supposedly serve.
In terms of policy, I like the push for building a legitimate wall on the southern border, something Democrats were pushing hard for just a couple of decades ago. Our southern border is absolutely insane with human trafficking, and anything that puts a reasonable dent in that is something I'll be in favor of. It's also a simple matter of national security. I also like the push for limiting immigration for people who will not have a net positive effect on the country, however you want to reasonably determine that. I like doing anything to gut the "Affordable Care Act" that was supposed to be our universal healthcare legislation but is actually just unaffordable yet compulsory health insurance that doesn't cover much (this gets into eliminating the insurance industry, which is its own clusterfuck of a discussion and which is something that will never happen).
Now for some of what I don't like.
On him as a person, the thing that stood out to me the most about the "pussy grabbing" tapes was him talking about trying to take this woman furniture shopping. It was the most embarrassing, non-pimp shit I have ever heard in my life.
I really didn't like him putting his kids and son in law into positions of power, especially at a cost to taxpayers. That early situation not being able to utilize controlling both houses of Congress to any effect was also really bad.
In terms of policy, I didn't like some of the things he had to say about gun control, specifically comments in favor of things like what we call "red flag laws" that allow guns to be taken away without due process just due to allegations that do not have to be proven or substantiated in any real way.
I wasn't a fan of how he handled Mattis late in the game, but I was a fan of how he handled him early in the game. Trump came in suggesting certain military policies, Mattis disagreed and laid out why, and Trump went with what Mattis suggested instead because he recognized that Mattis was the expert on that subject.... and then all of that went out the fucking window.
On the issue of the coronavirus stuff, he got called a racist for trying to initiate a travel ban for people who had visited China so early on. A couple of months later, and the same news outlets (the NYT as one example) were saying he didn't do it soon enough. My problem is that he seemed to fold in the face of things like this instead of taking it on the chin. It's like when the riots broke out this summer, I thought that he needed to do more to put those down because of the pandemic. He definitely cared too much about what people thought about him compared to just doing his job. (Side note: AOC appears to be the opposite of this for now, which is why I like her as a person a lot while being against many/most of her policy ideas.)
His position on the masks stuff stayed pretty close in line with what the Surgeon General, the CDC and WHO were saying, so I can't hate on him for that anymore than I hate on those three (which is a lot). That shit in the Rose Garden, however, was some of the most ridiculous bullshit I've ever seen in my life, and he should have never allowed that to happen.
The big thing that a lot of people are talking about now is his speech before the Capitol situation. I've watched the entire speech more than once, and it wasn't anything out of the ordinary in terms of political figures encouraging a protest. He specifically told them to be peaceful. With that said, he shouldn't have been encouraging any protest during a fucking pandemic anymore than the riots and protests this summer should have been encouraged. Here's the speech: "Keep your fucking ass at home." The end. That's it. That's all it should have been.
Overall with the coronavirus stuff, Trump really got dealt a shitty hand with that happening at all, especially in his first term, especially starting around the beginning of an election year. But he didn't exactly do himself a lot of favors with how he handled it either.
Anyway that's entirely too long of a post on politics for me, so don't get used to it.
^^^ OK well that's actually pretty well thought-out. I take back the nihilism comment, though that was the vibe I got from banana.
I think it's nihilism from that type as well, but there's not really much of a cure for it when every source of meaning has been stripped from a large demographic. I also think it helps to explain the QAnon bunch as well since it gives them some source of meaning.
Of course, that's not necessarily all that different from people who make "social justice" and being "woke" as their entire identity because they have no meaning from anything else.
When people talk about politics being the new religion, they aren't joking, but it gets at the same thing. These groups from both "sides" are getting the same thing from their respective sources of bullshit.
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Speaking of the MAGA agenda, I'm a really big fan of Lauren Boebert. She's a newly elected Congresswoman from Colorado, and she's MAGA as fuck.
8/10 definitely would fuck
I like crazy. 9/10, definitely would fuck.
Moving this discussion over here, as it doesn't belong in the MEGA thread.
This is a perspective that I want to embrace and really let it be my center as a starting point to examine all political issues. Not to simply pick a side before we get started, but to see how the many variables affect the entire state of the system. I do find it difficult to maintain that perspective, as it's much easier to be a bonehead, but I don't like feeling like a bonehead, so ...
As a foundation, this feels right.
Onto some specifics:
Understanding that all office holders abuse their power - i.e. citing that someone has abused power is not in-and-of-itself a moral judgement. That's the game they're playing, and rules are meant to be broken in a democracy. Intent matters.
Did any of Trump's abuses of power strike you as dangerous precedents for the stability of the US on the world stage?
E.g. the nepotism, leaving many state department roles unfilled, etc. pick whatever drives your opinion or a simple "no" is fine, too.
You've spoken about Trump and the Republican party in 3rd person because I kinda misspoke initially.
Do you support anything about Trump? If so, what?
Do you oppose anything about Trump? If so, what?
Scroll up a few to post #8707 in this thread:
https://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerf...60#post2311160
That should answer most or all of what you're asking.
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However, if limitations on this exploitation are too severe, then it's ultimately bad for the less powerful minority because the powerful majority will simply leave and go somewhere else, taking opportunities with them.
All that makes sense, but only if the premise "there's always going to be a powerful numerical minority" is true. One could argue that humans are innately egalitarian, that's how hunter-gatherer societies worked and still do. I'm not convinced we shouldn't even try to achieve that goal, and just aim to maintain some fragile balance, where the majority isn't too badly screwed over to make them revolt.
Some humans are innately egalitarian, and other humans are innately authoritarian.
Ignoring either group is not going to work in the long run.
There will always be charismatic people who excel at persuasion and gain political clout over it. No matter how many egalitarian people there are, there will always be other people who want to follow a charismatic leader. Charisma is easily mistaken for competence, IMO.
So a chunk of Oregon might be trying to leave the state and join Idaho: https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...te-escaping-g/
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Five Oregon counties will ask voters in the next election whether they want to detach from the deep-blue state and join neighboring red-state Idaho.
Move Oregon’s Border, also known as Greater Idaho, confirmed Tuesday that the initiative to move swaths of largely rural eastern and southern Oregon into Idaho qualified for the May 18 special election ballot in five counties: Baker, Grant, Lake, Malheur and Sherman.
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He cited the impact of Democratic Gov. Kate Brown’s novel coronavirus restrictions; ongoing Antifa unrest in Portland; a state task force’s unsuccessful effort to prioritize “Black, Indigenous and people of color” for novel coronavirus vaccines, and what he described as the state legislature’s bias in favor of Portland over rural communities.
“This state protects Antifa arsonists, not normal Oregonians, it prioritizes one race above another for vaccines and program money and in the school curriculum, and it prioritizes Willamette Valley above rural Oregon,” Mr. McCarter said.
What's fun about this is that a couple of counties have already approved the measures being voted on. This could have some minor implications for Congress and the Electoral College as well.
I'm not so sure.
Most people are authoritarian, since most people want a legal system and sufficient enforcement to ensure behaviour they believe to be immoral is disincentivised.
I am too, reluctantly. I'd be in favour of anarchism if I thought humans were ready for it. We're not, so I support a system of authority that protects people from violence.
Egalitarianism is the belief all humans are equal. Does anyone really think this? We like to think we believe it because we all like to think we're good people, but who here thinks Donald Trump is their equal? How about OJ Simpson? Some guy rotting in prison for murder?
Nobody who passes moral judgement on others is egalitarian.
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So I'm 36 years old. I've been hearing people talk about how much they hate politicians my entire life. I'm genuinely surprised that this type of shit hasn't happened more often.
A bit of a tangent, but I wonder if the only thing that stopped America from having a revolution in the late '60s was the vast amount of marijuana being smoked.
South Park is doing a Q special soon. They have a tremendous track record with this sort of thing, so I'm excited to see it.
However, I was surprised to look back and not see any serious discussion about the QAnon stuff, which surprised me because it's one of the most interesting things to happen in US politics in a long time. I was considering making it a separate thread, but we don't really do separate threads here. That left me wondering if I should put it here or in the randomness thread.
Here's the basic idea for my foreigner friends and other normies:
- In 2017, the year that Trump started his term as president, someone started posting anonymously on 4chan while posing as some type of undisclosed government official. This person is known as Q.
- In a lot of ways, this can be seen as the spiritual successor of Pizzagate. The primary difference is that Pizzagate actually had enough evidence to warrant consideration at first in a "where there's smoke, there's fire" sort of way. QAnon tried to recreate this dynamic to varying and often lackluster degrees of success.
- Q posts online messages in a cryptic form known as "Q drops." Somewhere in the range of 4,500 to 5,500 of them have been posted, which gives people plenty to work from.
- It's important to note that, with the way these imageboards work, it can be verified that it's the same person posting them even though the posts are anonymous.
- An online catalog in the form of a Google Spreadsheet of most Q drops can be found here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...gid=1596710080
- The basic premise is that there's a massive conspiracy against the people of Western democracies, and Trump was/is going to put an end to it.
- What's so great about it from a structural standpoint is that it incorporates a wide range of lesser conspiracy theories, which means it can pivot endlessly when it fails to deliver on something specific.
- What's so great about it from a functional standpoint is that it frequently operates along the lines of a puzzle-solving game.
- The "telephone game" comes into play as well as things are amplified and passed on through memes. The fact that virtually no one in on it actually participates in 8chan, an obscure online imageboard where this "undisclosed government official" actually posts these days, ensures that people are getting the "information" second-hand at best, which further complicates the situation.
In short, it's an absolutely glorious clusterfuck.
To give you an idea of what a Q drop looks like, here is what's believed to be the first one from late 2017:
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HRC extradition already in motion effective yesterday with several countries in case of cross border run. Passport approved to be flagged effective 10/30 @ 12:01am. Expect massive riots organized in defiance and others fleeing the US to occur. US M’s will conduct the operation while NG activated. Proof check: Locate a NG member and ask if activated for duty 10/30 across most major cities.
Something really interesting about this from a psychological perspective is that once you "see the pattern" and "know what's really going on," you can start to pull in all kinds of things as a part of the conspiracy. In early 2018, autocorrect played a part in this when Trump accidentally send a tweet that included the word "consequential" when he meant "consensual."
Since there's a "Q" in that mistaken word, followers of the QAnon mess thought that this was Trump giving them a hidden message. And wouldn't you know it, the next Q drop "confirmed" that this is what had happened.
All of that aside, my personal favorite assertion from a Q drop is that Edward Snowden, the guy who had to flee the country permanently because he exposed the government spying on virtually every US citizen in violation of the Constitution, is a CIA plant that works for this global ruling interest that's at the heart of the thing.
Fast-forward until now, and I don't think there has been a single Q drop so far this year. I'm of the opinion that it'll pick back up once Trump gets back into public light.
How did they decode "covfefe"?
I like a good conspiracy but the whole Q thing just seemed like too deep a rabbit hole for me. It's like reading Lord of the Rings, first you read the Hobbit in a couple of days, and think "I enjoyed that read", so you pick up the Fellowship of the Ring, get a page or two in and think "fuck this".
I kept telling myself I'd pay it more attention when something happened to make me think the swamp was being drained. Don't get me wrong, I'm convinced there's an elite class of super wealthy who have global influence, I think nearly every government in the world, if not all, are corrupt, and I don't doubt there's a lot of sleaze going on involving underage boys and girls. Do I really want to know how deep this goes? Only if people are being held to account.
The problem with the whole Q thing is it's pure speculation. At least with 9/11 we watched the towers fall.
Keep the memory alive!
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OnlyFans model says Catholic school expelled her children over her racy photos
Source: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...r-her-n1258755
You can find her online as "Mrs. Poindexter" if you are so inclined.Quote:
A California mother of three said her boys were expelled from their Catholic school after administrators discovered her OnlyFans account.
Crystal Jackson’s increasing popularity on the adult, subscription-based site caught the attention, and ire, of parents at Sacred Heart Parish School in Sacremento, according to NBC affiliate KCRA.
After she and her husband spoke with a British tabloid about the controversy last week, Jackson said Theresa Sparks, Sacred Heart's principal, sent an email Sunday saying their children were not allowed to return.
In an email obtained by the news station, Sparks said, "Your apparent quest for high-profile controversy in support of your adult website is in direct conflict with what we hope to impart to our students and is directly opposed to the policies laid out in our Parent/Student Handbook.”
“We therefore require that you find another school for your children and have no further association with ours," she said.
Sparks declined to comment on the matter on Wednesday.
"We cannot discuss the status or circumstances of any member of our school or parish community," Sparks said in an email.
NBC News could not reach Jackson for comment, but she told KCRA that she is “still the same Crystal I was, like, two years ago, a year ago when we had coffee before you knew this. Now you just are judging me.”
Aren't schools regulated in USA? You can't do this in the UK, it would be appealed to a higher authority and the school would be forced to back down. The head would probably be forced to resign. I was "excluded" from school more times than I can remember, and the vast majority of the time the school was forced to take me back. Excluding children from UK schools is not easy when there's no suggestion of violence or drugs, you have to basically cause a teacher to have a meltdown.
They're regulated, but with private schools, you agree to a contract. If you don't uphold your part of the contract, they can end the agreement.
No one is forced out of schools in general. Everyone has public schools they can go to up to a certain age. Our private schools are an optional choice (just like homeschooling is).
I like the idea of someone on the school board trawling through porn and going "Hey, that's Sally's mom! I'm calling a board meeting, we can't have anything to do with this."
Still seems tenuous as fuck, legally speaking. An adult can be contractually bound to the school's terms, but how do you punish the child when the adult breaches that contract? You can't hold a child contractually responsible for the behaviour of the parents.
I can see a world where the school is entitled to sue the parent for damages, but expulsion of children for no fault of their own is not something that could happen here, and shouldn't happen in a country like USA.
If these were my kids I'd be kicking up a stink. I'd want the head's resignation, and anyone else I can hold legally accountable.
The question of how the school found out is certainly interesting. Chances seem high that someone somewhere was having a wank on OnlyFans, saw Sally's Mom, and had the neck to tell others about it.
Honestly, if I saw someone I knew on a site like that, I'd follow them and keep my mouth shut. I'd find it very amusing to think to myself next time I see Sally's mom "I had a wank over you last night" while talking about our kids' football game after school.
She's claiming she's being "body-shamed." I thought that was when someone was a big fatty and someone called them a big fatty or something.
This seems closer to a case of slut-shaming. But I suppose her lawyers don't think that's a sympathetic defense in bible country.
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lol, $15/mo. for a membership on OnlyFans. Wtf pays for porn these days?
https://onlyfans.com/mrspoindexter
I think the appeal with that is the "personal" touch. Porn is more interactive these days, you can actually have conversations with the women you're jerking off over. It's live and she's doing it for you. It's digital prostitution for her, and for him he feels like he has a relationship of sorts with the girl. If you're wealthy and lonely maybe you like giving money to an attractive girl who will finger herself in gratitude.
We've come a long way since I was a kid when porn was a jizz stained magazine dumped behind a bush.
While that scenario is hilarious, this particular situation is a little different. It wasn't just that she was doing the porn thing, but she was openly doing interviews about it with major publications.
I understand your frustration, but the only person legally accountable is the mother for breaking the terms of the contract she signed with the school.
Kids catch negative consequences for the behavior and choices of their parents all the time. That's just a part of life.
The kids still get to go to school. They just don't get to go to that particular school.
Dudes get off on the paying part specifically. They feel like they're helping to provide for this woman and whatever, and that gives them a positive feeling.
There are plenty of dudes who have addiction problems over this kind of thing that aren't completely different than how people get hooked on different types of gambling. It's really fascinating.
Don't confuse frustration with a tendency to talk shit. I couldn't give a fuck about this lady's children, I'm just surprised it's allowed to happen and feel there is likely some legal foundation to challenge it. But maybe these things are different in USA.Quote:
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*The Imperial March Plays*
Haha, this image exchange made my morning.
oskar is from Austria, right? This is Austria...
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Isn't someone here from Finland?
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That steak looks awesome.
That burger looks ridiculous. Why not just have 3 separate burgers instead of trying to cram all three into your mouth at once?
Whoever booked this person has a great sense of humour.
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That bear looks like he could use a triple-decker burger.
Wrong country, His best hope is a plate of pancakes with maple syrup, or the face of a camping child.
That triple decker burger is disgusting. If someone presented that to me I would probably have a heart attack looking at it.
I mean what I'd actually do is separate the meat from the non-meat, attempt to remove any mayo off the meat using a dry piece of bread, and eat the meat, leaving a pile of soggy bread and various fillings and sauces, while wishing I'd visited the steak house instead.
This is the MAGAposting thread, not the leafposting thread.
President Trump told everyone to get the vaccine, another gift from the Trump Administration, at CPAC.
Question: Why did Bill Gates name his company after his dick?
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Since we're doing pictures, here's resident schizo Alyssa Milano at it again.
When you're already great, there's no need to make yourself great again.
This should be our official trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSdJ6h-QEEU
Actually what I would like to recommend for anyone who wants to understand our political landscape is a documentary that unfortunately doesn't exist with subtitles afaik.
It was filmed around the inauguration of Kurt Waldheim who faced international criticism for being an ex SA member, which was basically pre-SS nazi brownshirts, and became a Lieutenant during the war.
To the international press, our political leaders including the previous president claimed that the accusations were overblown, but what this documentary shows is the support Waldheim got precisely because of his role leading up to the Nazi occupation. It's a series of interviews of inebriated austrians in pubs parroting old nazi propaganda. It is a brilliant insight into the fascist mindset and it is criminal that it was kept under lock for so long by the austrian broadcasting station that commissioned it.
It was filmed for TV in 1988, but did not air until 2016.
https://youtu.be/K3Efqw_y76E - link for reference, but useless without subs.
That's funny to say because the more typical attempt at a rebuke from Americans is, "America was never great," which is obviously laughable.
The problem is that it's those people, their tendencies toward being lackluster at virtually everything in their lives and them dragging down everyone around them that are the reasons for the again part.
Time to get MAGA as fuck in this motherfucker.
From the crazy bitch factory that brought you Laruen Boebert and Marjorie Taylor Greene, we have a new contender for Senate in Arkansas with Jan Morgan:
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Ugh, she's so milf hot. I absolutely love slightly trashy milfy brunette milfs. They're soo much type. As such, Jan Morgan will be my new favorite over Lauren Boebert if she wins.
A few bits about her:
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Jan is an Associated Press Award Winning Veteran television investigative journalist, now turned citizen activist for the Conservative Movement. She is a weekly guest on Fox Business Network on 2A issues.
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During her 27 years as a television anchor and reporter, Jan’s work won Associated Press awards in spot news, documentary, and best continuing coverage.
She also seems to own and operate an indoor gun range called The Gun Cave.Quote:
Jan is NRA Certified in firearms/range safety and recently completed her testing to become a state certified concealed carry instructor in her home state of Arkansas.
They should just start a hot girls with guns party lol. This is getting to be a theme.
It does seem to have some implications for the climate there though. Like, our politicians are so useless we might as well just elect some eye candy.
That said, this is one of ours currently deputy leader of opposition.
Don't usually go for redheads myself, but I'd make an exception here.
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She's a poor man's Kari from Mythbusters. I'd give her a mere 10/10.
Kari is off the scale, obviously.
I mean, possibly the hottest person in history. Imagine being her husband. Imagine being that fucking lucky.
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EDIT - that guy in the plane is her husband.
Wanker. Absolute wanker.
1. Hot wife who can fix anything.
2. Hot wife with a machine gun.
3. Hot wife who's a politician.
This is doing the rounds on Twitter, obviously very critical and whatnot...
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I seem to be alone in thinking she's hot as fuck now. I mean she was pretty, but now she's smoking hot. I'm definitely a fan of punk bitches.
Rofl
How's the civil war going?
Not sure if this counts as MAGA or not, but Chauvin just got convicted for murder and manslaughter in the George Floyd case. Good, that cop is a cunt.
His defence seemed to be that he didn't kill Floyd, the drugs did, which was torn apart by doctors. Weak as fuck defence.
I suspect the 2nd degree murder charge will get overturned upon appeal, since 2nd degree murder implies intent to kill (though not premeditation). I'm surprised the jury consider that to be proven. The other two charges are much more difficult to overturn though.