Comments: Bankroll Management 101. Important to new players.
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Good post `rilla. I'd just like to emphasize the fact that you should be comfortable having losses within the realm of your game. The number of BB's and buyin ratios can be a general guideline. However, I think that the real importance is that if you get cleaned out 3 games in a row (bad playing, beats, whatever) you're not going to lose sleep over it. That's the importance of BR management and you will not find a more important skill.
This has definitly put me in my place
I started playing online about a week ago and after so long the 2 dollar no limit games seemed to be going nowhere in terms of "making money."
I decided to go to $10 games , got some good breaks and figured i was ready to move up. I started at $100, brought myself up tp $200 in one night, but woke up today and dropped $50 before i knew it.
I had to jump back and look at what the hell i was doing wrong. Mostly i just took alot of bad breaks but that got me to Tilt. im glad i could catch myself before i dropped fast, but i think i need to go back down to smaller buy-ins until i get my game going more solid.
Let me know what you guys think, if im just overreacting cause of my first big slump or if i should slow my role and be more patient with my games progression.
This is why bankroll management is important
This is why bankroll management is important
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If your bankroll can't take the swing, you can't play anymore. you'd be surprised what those cards can do. I was surprised anyway.
This is Limit, so things are a little different. at the start i was feeling good, like i was solidly beating the game. now i'm wondering if i was just lucky. having enough cushon in your bankroll is essential. if i went on that swing from the outset, i'd have quit poker. lucky for me i only lost my winnings.
it's not easy looking at only having $0.12 for hours and hours of work. make sure you can take it.
Re: Bankroll Management 101. Important to new players.
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Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla
Well, we had some new visitors in the chat room today and they all had a few questions about bankroll managment. So I lined 'em up and knocked 'em down. Soupie asked me to post about bankroll managment so here it is! Now my numbers may be a bit on the high-ish side, but I always like to play it safe when we're talking about poker.
Alot of new players make the mistake of depositing 50 bucks on Party Poker and taking their shot at greatness. This is one of the most fundemental mistakes for new players and I will explain why.
To understand why Bankroll Managment is so important, you have to understand how you should approach the game of poker.
Poker is a long term game, it is not AA v KK getting cracked on the river. It is a game of thousands of iterations of these hands. Throughout the carreer of a poker player, you will see aces more than your fare share and though you will lose with them from time to time, you will win a lot more. Everytime you play aces properly, it is a positive investment even though you may lose money on any given occurence. It's not a game of, "Mah gaht dahm aces got cracked a-gaht-damn-gain! Gah!"
Poker is a horrible short term game, you can be ontop of the world one day and drowning in the depths of the river valley the next. It's a game of swings. You WILL lose at some point, it's a statistical certainty. It is the undefinable "luck" that people are so quick to blame. So you need to make sure you have enough money in your online bank so that the loses don't phase you. You need a fat enough roll to never go bust becuase of a bad streak and to help prevent tilt. For me (I play 100-200NL cash games on Empire) 100 bucks just isn't what it used to be from a poker perspective. Some days, I start out real slow and lose 2 buyins, but I don't tilt becuase the money and results don't get in the way towards playing great poker. My bankroll is too solid to be phased by a bad week, therefore my play is not phased by a bad week.
You can find the accurate numbers for a proper bankroll all over this great forum of ours. But I like 15-30 buyins for No Limit (Maybe even more for 6max), 300BB for limit and 15+ buyins for tournies (More for MTTs). If you play a little from column A (limit) and a little from columb B (Tournies or NL) a good rule of thumb for your bankroll size is never risk more than 5-10% of it on any given day.
The numbers might be a little off here or there but the idea is: If you're never risking much of your bankroll from day to day, you allow yourself to play your game risk-free. Losing money won't drive you to suicide *cough* And your back should never be against the wall.
Poker is a game of positive longterm investments, you want to make sure that you have enough money to stick around and reap the rewards of these investments.
-'rilla
I think the word you were looking for is "career."