How I F up.

This is an op thread about how I F things up.

My abridged poker history:
Started playing, thought I was god's gift, stopped doing other money-making things, survived longer than I should have on just poker, got humble, got a job, played some more, quit the job, struggled thru every flavor of be-a-baller ideas from short stacking to grinding up from 1/2nl at the local cardroom. I figure at some point I'll get my head out of my ass... maybe tomorrow.

Recently I've had a hankering for live tourneys. Why? I don't know. There's a paper trail to the mobnies, the hours suck, the regs are pretty miserable people for the most part. That said, the fields are fairly soft and none of the regs know how to correctly deal with bounties or being short stacked.

I've managed to play like garbage in these tourneys. I mean real garbage... calling ep raises w/ KJo with 3 players left to act before the blinds then calling passively on a k-high wet board. Just make-you-puke kind of stuff. Yesterday I played one where I misread a hand. I played 65 perfectly, my trip 5s got max value for sure. I had 67.

It seems to be a tourney-only issue. I play cash games for longer hours than the tourneys and don't run into these kinds of hands. I ordered an ipod from an old poker site where I had some points laying around. Maybe that will help me stay focused. I hate not hearing the talk that goes on, especially since so many of the regs tell you thier thought process, but maybe I can just use it when I start to slip a bit.

No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

BB ($100)
Hero (UTG) ($110.20)
MP ($100.90)
Button ($96)
SB ($193.60)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/spade.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/heart.gif
Hero bets $3.50, 1 fold, Button raises $9, 2 folds, Hero calls $5.50

Ok so preflop I think I fold to a decent 3-bet size. While this size is giving better odds, it also usually means the villain has a big hand, and so will pay off a set much more often.

Flop: ($19.50) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ilies/club.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/spade.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...es/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $9, Hero raises $18, Button calls $9

c/f is the plan of course, but then I look at his bet size. That's not for value. Of course, my raise size blows. A stop and go here wouldn't be terribad, a bigger raise is ok, a fold is still standard, this minraise is hopeless. He timed down a little and called. Implying a pretty weak hand.

Turn: ($55.50) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...es/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks

Given the action so far and my opponent's seemingly weak range, I need to rep something on the turn. I was pretty flustered because as soon as I minraised I realized how bad it was. So, I screwed down to calm down and missed a chance to turn a bad flop play into a profitable turn play.

River: ($55.50) Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $24, Button calls $24

Total pot: $103.50

The river came a decent card to bluff, until I realized he's got KK or QQ a lot of the time here...

Boy did I f that hand up.

This thread was supposed to be me making my worst moves public in order to help keep me focused and keep my ego in check, but it's the only op thread I have, so...

Today I shipped $2k in online donkament profits :)

:shipit:

So I made a deal with a friend where I'm playing 10k hands of 2nl to prove it's profitable... anyone want to make any winrate prop bets?

sure, 20ptBB/100 gogogogo
or, name your winrates/odds

I don't really know where to aim with winrates at .01/.02, it's not like I can ask, "what's the average reg's winrate at .01/.02?" because no one can stay there long enough to get any idea what a winning player at a higher limit might make.

anyway, here's what this thread is about:

No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (8 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

SB ($60.05)
BB ($100)
UTG ($138.90)
UTG+1 ($87.50)
MP1 ($100)
MP2 ($112.15)
CO ($104.50)
Hero (Button) ($101.50)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/heart.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/heart.gif
5 folds, Hero bets $3, 1 fold, BB raises $8.50, Hero calls $6.50

Flop: ($19.50) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/spade.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/spade.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/heart.gif (2 players)
BB bets $14, Hero calls $14

Turn: ($47.50) Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...es/diamond.gif (2 players)
BB bets $30.50, Hero raises $78 (All-In), BB calls $46 (All-In)

River: ($200.50) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/spade.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $200.50

I planned to bluff shove the turn if he bet smallish because of history. He didn't bet smallish, I shoved anyway with very little FE.






No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (8 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Button ($41.05)
SB ($197.50)
BB ($137.40)
UTG ($90.70)
UTG+1 ($100)
MP1 ($130)
MP2 ($50)
Hero (CO) ($104.15)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/spade.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/heart.gif
4 folds, Hero bets $3.50, 1 fold, SB raises $11, 1 fold, Hero raises $27, SB raises $186 (All-In), Hero calls $73.65 (All-In)


he ran like 30/20 14%... over too small a sample set to get it in with AQo. Especially since this is from the CO, not the button, and it's FR. Man I'm bad at this game.

Played a session of 100nl FR and played with a player who I thought was really fishy until I noticed him on 2 more of my tables. I looked him up on PTR and found he is a .8bb/100 winner at 400nl and about the same on 100nl over decent samples. I searched for him and saw he was 16 tabling 100nl FR.

His stats on one of the tables were laggy as hell over 50ish hands, and in one pot we played he 3b, raggy flop checked thru, I bet 2/3 pot on the turn, he snap minraised and snap folded to my snap shove.

All these are against the same guy. I thought he was really fishy, but he's a winning reg. Shows what I know...

No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

MP1 ($100)
MP2 ($127.75)
MP3 ($100)
CO ($94.50)
Button ($100)
SB ($98.65)
BB ($101.50)
UTG ($100)
UTG+1 ($143.95)

Preflop:
1 fold, UTG+1 bets $3.50, MP1 raises $10, 6 folds, UTG+1 calls $6.50

Flop: ($21.50) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...es/diamond.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/heart.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/heart.gif (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks

Turn: ($21.50) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/spade.gif (2 players)
UTG+1 bets $16, MP1 raises $32, UTG+1 raises $117.95 (All-In), 1 fold


No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (8 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

MP2 ($100)
Hero (CO) ($103)
Button ($38)
SB ($35)
BB ($105)
UTG ($107.70)
UTG+1 ($100)
MP1 ($100)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ilies/club.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/spade.gif
4 folds, Hero bets $3.50, 2 folds, BB raises $11, Hero calls $8.50

Flop: ($24.50) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/spade.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...es/diamond.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ilies/club.gif (2 players)
BB bets $11, Hero raises $22, BB calls $11

Turn: ($68.50) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/spade.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $69 (All-In), 1 fold

Total pot: $68.50



No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (8 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

UTG ($107.40)
Hero (UTG+1) ($112)
MP1 ($165.40)
MP2 ($195.50)
CO ($12.85)
Button ($173.30)
SB ($102.50)
BB ($100)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...es/diamond.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ilies/club.gif
UTG bets $3.50, Hero calls $3.50, 2 folds, CO raises $12.85 (All-In), 3 folds, UTG calls $9.35, Hero calls $9.35

Flop: ($40.05) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...es/diamond.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/heart.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ilies/club.gif (3 players, 1 all-in)
UTG bets $20, Hero calls $20

Turn: ($80.05) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/heart.gif (3 players, 1 all-in)
UTG checks, Hero checks

River: ($80.05) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ilies/club.gif (3 players, 1 all-in)
UTG checks, Hero checks

Total pot: $80.05

Results:
UTG had 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ilies/club.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...es/diamond.gif (two pair, Aces and fours).
Hero had Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...es/diamond.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ilies/club.gif (two pair, Aces and Jacks).
CO had 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/spade.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/spade.gif (full house, Aces over tens).
Outcome: Hero won $39, CO won $38.05

This last one bugged me because I would have folded his hand pre, and because of the flop. If he's getting value from a worse hand it can only be because I'm planning on stealing it later on. Also, he is bluffing here into a dry side pot, he has to be pretty damn sure I'm going to fold for this to be any good.

update on 2nl: running horrible and lmao about it :) tbh I am having trouble with tptk, a lot of the 2nl guys stack off so light I find myself just getting it in on the flop with tptk, good sometimes, bad sometimes, not sure if it's correct or not. I've seen enough 10-12 vpip players stack off with middle pair on the flop that I just get it in and shrug.



Then there was this superfish I played with:

1)
No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

MP2 ($100)
MP3 ($73)
Hero (CO) ($111.70)
Button ($199)
SB ($40.55)
BB ($36.50)
UTG ($100)
UTG+1 ($100)
MP1 ($73.85)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/heart.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/heart.gif
2 folds, MP1 bets $3.50, 1 fold, MP3 calls $3.50, Hero raises $14, 3 folds, MP1 calls $10.50, 1 fold

Flop: ($33) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ilies/club.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/heart.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ilies/club.gif (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero checks

flop check is based on the idea that given preflop action, random suited stuff isn't in his range. :wall:

Turn: ($33) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ilies/club.gif (2 players)
MP1 bets $33, Hero calls $33

River: ($99) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/spade.gif (2 players)
MP1 bets $26.85 (All-In), Hero calls $26.85

Total pot: $152.70

Results:
MP1 had 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/spade.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/spade.gif (three of a kind, sevens).
Hero had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/heart.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/heart.gif (two pair, Aces and sevens).
Outcome: MP1 won $149.70



2)
No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (8 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Button ($100)
SB ($68.50)
Hero (BB) ($100)
UTG ($205.80)
UTG+1 ($40.05)
MP1 ($53.15)
MP2 ($100)
CO ($112.30)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/heart.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/heart.gif
4 folds, CO bets $3.50, 2 folds, Hero raises $13, CO calls $10.50

Flop: ($28.50) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/spade.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ilies/club.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...es/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $22, CO calls $22

Turn: ($72.50) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks

River: ($72.50) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $64 (All-In), CO calls $64

Hey, I can credibly rep a queen here...

Total pot: $200.50

Results:
Hero had 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/heart.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/heart.gif (one pair, sixes).
CO had 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...es/diamond.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...es/diamond.gif (full house, sixes over Queens).
Outcome: CO won $197.50


3)
No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

UTG+1 ($100)
MP1 ($68)
Hero (MP2) ($100)
MP3 ($201.30)
CO ($56.40)
Button ($80)
SB ($103.80)
BB ($100)
UTG ($217.10)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ilies/club.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...es/diamond.gif
UTG bets $3.50, 2 folds, Hero raises $10, 5 folds, UTG calls $6.50

Flop: ($21.50) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/heart.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/spade.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/spade.gif (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($21.50) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/spade.gif (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks

River: ($21.50) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...es/diamond.gif (2 players)
UTG bets $5, Hero calls $5

Total pot: $31.50

Results:
UTG had 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...es/diamond.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/spade.gif (two pair, eights and twos).
Hero had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ilies/club.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...es/diamond.gif (one pair, eights).
Outcome: UTG won $29.95


4)
No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Button ($100)
SB ($67)
Hero (BB) ($100)
UTG ($204.50)
UTG+1 ($56.40)
MP1 ($80)
MP2 ($125.05)
MP3 ($100)
CO ($213.05)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/spade.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/spade.gif
5 folds, CO bets $3.50, Button calls $3.50, 1 fold, Hero calls $2.50

Flop: ($11) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/spade.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/heart.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...es/diamond.gif (3 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $7, 1 fold, Hero calls $7

Turn: ($25) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $20, Hero calls $20

River: ($65) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...es/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $60, Hero calls $60

Total pot: $185

A little crazy? Maybe. Look at how he played trip 6s in hand 1.

Results:
Hero had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/spade.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/spade.gif (two pair, fives and fours).
CO had 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...es/diamond.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...es/diamond.gif (two pair, fives and fours).
Outcome: Hero won $182



5)
No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (8 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Button ($100)
SB ($150.30)
Hero (BB) ($124.50)
UTG ($202)
UTG+1 ($80)
MP1 ($123.55)
MP2 ($100)
CO ($130.70)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...es/diamond.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/spade.gif
UTG bets $2, 3 folds, CO calls $2, 2 folds, Hero raises $7.50, 1 fold, CO calls $6.50

Flop: ($19.50) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...es/diamond.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ilies/club.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ilies/club.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $16, CO calls $16

Turn: ($51.50) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...es/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks

River: ($51.50) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ilies/club.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks

I don't know why I checked... it was a quick decision, I should have bet. He's not super agro after the flop with marginals.

Total pot: $51.50

Results:
Hero had Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...es/diamond.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/spade.gif (full house, Jacks over Queens).
CO didn't show
Outcome: Hero won $48.95
he had 8h4s, converter didn't show for some reason.


My session was over, I had my iron man points for the day. I unchecked autopost and started sitting out. I was done, I took a breath, said ok I'm going to leave. Then I thought, dammit this guy is free money, the rest of the table is a bunch of nits. Leaving here is throwing money away. I had tilted for a few minutes earlier, but I have my composure back now. I'm going to leave when this guy is broke. I took a bit more off the fish, but ran into trouble from the nits at the table.

Here, dear reader, is the saga of my extended single-table session:
(cue orchestra to complete the anticlimactic feel)

6)
No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (8 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

MP2 ($100)
CO ($149.80)
Hero (Button) ($149.95)
SB ($199)
BB ($80)
UTG ($123.55)
UTG+1 ($100)
MP1 ($106.20)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ilies/club.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/spade.gif
2 folds, MP1 bets $3.50, 2 folds, Hero calls $3.50, 2 folds

Flop: ($8.50) 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...es/diamond.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/heart.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/spade.gif (2 players)
MP1 bets $6, Hero calls $6

Turn: ($20.50) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ilies/club.gif (2 players)
MP1 bets $15, Hero calls $15

River: ($50.50) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ilies/club.gif (2 players)
MP1 bets $24.50, Hero calls $24.50

Total pot: $99.50

Results:
Hero had 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ilies/club.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/spade.gif (two pair, Queens and tens).
MP1 had 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ilies/club.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...es/diamond.gif (two pair, Queens and nines).
Outcome: Hero won $96.50


7)
No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (8 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

UTG+1 ($100)
MP1 ($149.80)
Hero (MP2) ($197.45)
CO ($198.50)
Button ($80)
SB ($129.40)
BB ($100)
UTG ($57.20)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ilies/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...es/diamond.gif
UTG bets $3.50, 1 fold, MP1 calls $3.50, Hero raises $14, 4 folds, UTG calls $10.50, 1 fold

Flop: ($33) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/heart.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...es/diamond.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...es/diamond.gif (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($33) Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...es/diamond.gif (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks

River: ($33) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/spade.gif (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks

Total pot: $33

Results:
UTG didn't show
Hero had Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ilies/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...es/diamond.gif (one pair, twos).
Outcome: Hero won $31.35
he had 4s6s


8)
No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (8 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Button ($100)
SB ($149.50)
Hero (BB) ($214.80)
UTG ($195.50)
UTG+1 ($87.25)
MP1 ($128.90)
MP2 ($100)
CO ($36.05)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/heart.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...es/diamond.gif
UTG calls $1, 3 folds, CO bets $4.50, Button calls $4.50, 1 fold, Hero raises $21, 1 fold, CO raises $31.55 (All-In), 1 fold, Hero calls $14.05

Flop: ($78.10) 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/heart.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...es/diamond.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: ($78.10) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ilies/club.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($78.10) Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...es/diamond.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $78.10

Results:
Hero had 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/heart.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...es/diamond.gif (high card, Ace).
CO had 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ilies/club.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...es/diamond.gif (one pair, fives).
Outcome: CO won $75.10

9)
(different opponent, everyone else on the table was a badish nit)
No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (8 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

SB ($100.50)
BB ($149)
Hero (UTG) ($199.85)
UTG+1 ($192.50)
MP1 ($85.75)
MP2 ($122.90)
CO ($100)
Button ($61.10)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ilies/club.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ilies/club.gif
Hero bets $3.50, 6 folds, BB calls $2.50

Flop: ($7.50) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...es/diamond.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/heart.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/heart.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $6, BB calls $6

Turn: ($19.50) 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/spade.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $16, BB calls $16

River: ($51.50) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...es/diamond.gif (2 players)
BB bets $51.50, Hero folds

Total pot: $51.50

Results:
BB didn't show
Outcome: BB won $100.45


10)
MP2 is tight but bad
CO is our superfish

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (8 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Button ($100)
SB ($172.45)
Hero (BB) ($174.35)
UTG ($192.50)
UTG+1 ($85.75)
MP1 ($122.90)
MP2 ($100)
CO ($61.10)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/heart.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...es/diamond.gif
2 folds, MP1 bets $3, MP2 raises to $10, CO calls $10, 3 folds, MP1 calls $7

Flop: ($31.50) Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...es/diamond.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/heart.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/spade.gif (3 players)
MP1 checks, MP2 bets $18, CO raises to $51.10 (All-In), 1 fold, MP2 calls $33.10

Turn: ($133.70) Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ilies/club.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($133.70) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ilies/club.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $133.70 | Rake: $3

Results:
MP2 had 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/spade.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/spade.gif (one pair, Kings).
CO had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...es/diamond.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/spade.gif (three of a kind, Kings).
Outcome: CO won $130.70

11)
Here MP1 is tight/bad and MP2 is superfish

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (8 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

CO ($100)
Button ($171.95)
Hero (SB) ($173.35)
BB ($192.50)
UTG ($85.75)
UTG+1 ($112.90)
MP1 ($100)
MP2 ($130.70)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...es/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...es/diamond.gif
2 folds, MP1 bets $3.50, MP2 calls $3.50, 2 folds, Hero calls $3, 1 fold

Flop: ($11.50) Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ilies/club.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...es/diamond.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ilies/club.gif (3 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets $8, MP2 calls $8, Hero calls $8

Turn: ($35.50) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/heart.gif (3 players)
Hero checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks

River: ($35.50) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ilies/club.gif (3 players)
Hero bets $21, MP1 calls $21, 1 fold

Total pot: $77.50 | Rake: $3

Results:
Hero had Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...es/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...es/diamond.gif (three of a kind, eights).
MP1 had Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/spade.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/heart.gif (full house, eights over Kings).
Outcome: MP1 won $74.50


There's more but that's a ton and I have to run.

It's a lot, but it was a really interesting session and I intend to post more of it.

12
CO is superfish
No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Button ($100)
SB ($165.45)
Hero (BB) ($127)
UTG ($191)
UTG+1 ($150.30)
MP1 ($84.25)
MP2 ($130.80)
MP3 ($140.50)
CO ($86.90)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...es/diamond.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/spade.gif
5 folds, CO bets $3.50, Button calls $3.50, SB calls $3, Hero calls $2.50

Flop: ($14) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/heart.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...es/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/spade.gif (4 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, CO bets $10, Button calls $10, SB calls $10, Hero folds

Turn: ($44) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/spade.gif (3 players)
SB checks, CO checks, Button checks

River: ($44) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/heart.gif (3 players)
SB checks, CO bets $35, Button calls $35, SB calls $35

Total pot: $149

Results:
Button had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...es/diamond.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/spade.gif (two pair, Aces and fives).
SB had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/heart.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/heart.gif (two pair, Aces and Kings).
CO had 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ilies/club.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/heart.gif (one pair, fives).
Outcome: SB won $146

13
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (8 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

SB ($105.05)
Hero (BB) ($150.95)
UTG ($190.30)
UTG+1 ($148.80)
MP1 ($82.75)
MP2 ($129.30)
CO ($129)
Button ($23.40)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/spade.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...es/diamond.gif
5 folds, Button bets $23.40 (All-In), 1 fold, Hero calls $22.40

Flop: ($47.30) Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ilies/club.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/heart.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: ($47.30) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/spade.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($47.30) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $47.30 | Rake: $2.35

Results:
Button had 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ilies/club.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ilies/club.gif (two pair, Queens and fours).
Hero had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/spade.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...es/diamond.gif (one pair, Queens).
Outcome: Button won $44.95


14
superfish had calmed down to a 60/40 from a 75/50, but I still got some action on my KK.
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (8 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

CO ($98.50)
Button ($100)
Hero (SB) ($142.60)
BB ($155.30)
UTG ($83.90)
UTG+1 ($123.80)
MP1 ($126)
MP2 ($44.80)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/heart.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/spade.gif
3 folds, MP2 bets $3.50, 2 folds, Hero raises to $14, 1 fold, MP2 calls $10.50

Flop: ($29) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/spade.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...es/diamond.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...es/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 checks

Turn: ($29) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 checks

River: ($29) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $128.60 (All-In), 1 fold

Total pot: $29 | Rake: $1.45

Results:
Hero didn't show Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/heart.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/spade.gif (nothing).
Outcome: Hero won $27.55


15
So I had promised some friends I'd catch last call with them, this was my last hand at the table :(

superfish is the button
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

SB ($98.50)
BB ($100)
Hero (UTG) ($100.75)
UTG+1 ($35)
MP1 ($140.30)
MP2 ($80)
MP3 ($159.10)
CO ($123.65)
Button ($67.60)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ilies/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/spade.gif
3 folds, MP2 bets $3, MP3 calls $3, 1 fold, Button calls $3, 2 folds

Flop: ($10.50) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/heart.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/spade.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...es/diamond.gif (3 players)
MP2 bets $7, MP3 calls $7, Button raises to $15, 1 fold, MP3 calls $8

Turn: ($47.50) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...es/diamond.gif (2 players)
MP3 bets $29, Button raises to $49.60 (All-In), 1 fold

Total pot: $105.50 | Rake: $3

Results:
Button didn't show
Outcome: Button won $102.50

sn? We may have bumped at 100nl on FTP. Also, most winning players are bad so can't rly be surprised too much...

Just doing a breakfast morning stop in.

Looked over some of the hands quickly.

that Q9hh hand where you call a 3bet is spew every street. Flop float would always be meh, but even moreso given his sizing. But you already know that was spew.

Calling 9To to 3bets.. sigh. But once you get to the flop, I don't hate the min-raise. On the turn, I'd say he's very much WA/WB, with hands that beat ours and hands like AQ/66 and some other nonsense. Not much point shoving. I'd probably bet like $15 into 65 and hope he tilt shoves something or OOP floats and trys drawing to his 6 outer.

Ill, I figure everyone is bad. Hell that's kind of what this thread is about. I guess it's just kind of telling that this guy who I can look at and say "That's bad" is doing well while I feel like I'm struggling and not living up to my expectations for myself.


Griffey, thanks for the reply.

The Qh9h hand was a little wierd. His 3bet size before the flop makes me want to call with ATC. Then again, a 3b that size generally means power, and I should have thought more about that post-flop. I posted the hand focusing on my bad play on the turn and over looked how the flop float was kind of hopless.

My steal % is a little high and I tend to call 3bets a bit too light. I'm going to be thinking about tightening both ranges and maybe 4 betting a bit more.

In the T9o hand, I intended to make it look like I turned a draw. I figured he'd call with a bunch of smaller pairs and possibly even AK. In hindsight, I like your idea of another small bet to induce.

1)
v is 13/0 over 23, so he called 2 hands, basically no info except that he's not super loose.

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

UTG ($111.45)
UTG+1 ($100)
MP1 ($113.80)
Hero (MP2) ($121.70)
MP3 ($50)
CO ($52.85)
Button ($93.50)
SB ($213.50)
BB ($209.65)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/spade.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ilies/club.gif
3 folds, Hero bets $3.50, 2 folds, Button calls $3.50, 2 folds

Flop: ($8.50) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ilies/club.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/heart.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ilies/club.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $7, Button calls $7

Turn: ($22.50) 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...es/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $11, Hero calls $11

River: ($44.50) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ilies/club.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $26, Hero folds

Total pot: $44.50 | Rake: $2.20



2)
raiser is 12/6 over 200
3better has a 6 hand sample, 17/17

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

SB ($153.15)
BB ($80.90)
UTG ($103)
UTG+1 ($108.55)
MP1 ($50)
Hero (MP2) ($179.35)
MP3 ($103.95)
CO ($111.85)
Button ($85.45)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ilies/club.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/spade.gif
1 fold, UTG+1 bets $3.50, 1 fold, Hero calls $3.50, 2 folds, Button raises to $15.50, 4 folds

Total pot: $12 | Rake: $0

AA hand - just b/f turn. Lots of worse hands can still call (78, JT are always calling, and even hands like QT and stuff are never folding and never jamming turn)

Thanks for the reply griff,
Then we are b/fing most rivers as well I figure, c/fing this one.


I suck at life.
1)

No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

UTG+1 ($66.85)
MP1 ($163.95)
MP2 ($35)
Hero (MP3) ($210.65)
CO ($165.60)
Button ($100)
SB ($121.70)
BB ($30.95)
UTG ($72)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ilies/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/spade.gif
4 folds, Hero bets $3.50, 1 fold, Button calls $3.50, 1 fold, BB calls $2.50

Flop: ($11) 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...es/diamond.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ilies/club.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/spade.gif (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $9, Button calls $9, BB calls $9

Turn: ($38) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/heart.gif (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $21, Button calls $21, 1 fold

River: ($80) Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...es/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $66.50 (All-In), Hero calls $66.50

Total pot: $213
He snap shoved, and he overbet shoved and got called earlier and had trash. Then again, there's like NOTHING at all that calls the turn and becomes a bluff on the river. (ok, 89 maybe, w/e still fucking awful on my part)



2)
V is a calling station.

No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (8 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

BB ($69)
UTG ($101.50)
UTG+1 ($34.65)
Hero (MP1) ($265.60)
MP2 ($63.30)
CO ($72.45)
Button ($176.05)
SB ($160.35)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ilies/club.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...es/diamond.gif
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $1, Hero bets $4.50, 5 folds, UTG+1 calls $3.50

Flop: ($10.50) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ilies/club.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/heart.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...es/diamond.gif (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $7, UTG+1 calls $7

Turn: ($24.50) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ilies/club.gif (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $24, UTG+1 calls $23.15 (All-In)

River: ($70.80) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $70.80

My plan on the flop was to shovel money into the pot and then end up folding a lot on bad turn and river cards. It seemed kind of bad just after the hand, but then what's better?

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (7 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

MP1 ($35.10)
MP2 ($107.50)
CO ($138.85)
Button ($70)
SB ($100)
Hero (BB) ($103.65)
UTG ($70)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...es/diamond.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ilies/club.gif
5 folds, SB bets $4, Hero calls $3

Flop: ($8) Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/spade.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/spade.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/spade.gif (2 players)
SB bets $5, Hero raises to $17

Lol shorties. This might be spew. I decided to stop and go pre when I didn't want to fold to his raise size. I just got to the table. I had 4 hands on him and he was 75/0, no showdowns yet.

--1--
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

MP1 ($102.40)
MP2 ($137)
Hero (MP3) ($101.85)
CO ($36)
Button ($15.10)
SB ($100.50)
BB ($53.40)
UTG ($115.15)
UTG+1 ($33.50)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ilies/club.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/heart.gif
4 folds, Hero bets $3.50, 1 fold, Button raises to $6, 2 folds, Hero calls $2.50

Flop: ($13.50) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...es/diamond.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/spade.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $13.50, Button calls $9.10 (All-In)

Turn: ($31.70) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ilies/club.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($31.70) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...es/diamond.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $31.70 | Rake: $1.55


--2--
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

BB ($100)
UTG ($100.50)
UTG+1 ($107.75)
MP1 ($82.50)
MP2 ($100)
MP3 ($150.80)
CO ($120.90)
Button ($238.55)
Hero (SB) ($198.65)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ilies/club.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ilies/club.gif
UTG bets $3, 2 folds, MP2 calls $3, MP3 calls $3, 2 folds, Hero calls $2.50, 1 fold

Flop: ($13) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ilies/club.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ilies/club.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/heart.gif (4 players)
Hero bets $11, UTG calls $11, 2 folds

Turn: ($35) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $28, UTG calls $28

River: ($91) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...es/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero?

He has 58 behind, I cover. If I check I feel like I'm inviting a bluff shove, but I still don't want to call.

Idea:
I'm going to start each session 10-tabling and remove any tables that look crappy until I'm down to 4-6 tables. The idea is that at the beginning of a session I'll be playing tight anyway and by the end the value I get from having watched a bunch of hands will be greatest with fewer tables.

My goal for now will be to start at ten and have it down to 6 within half an hour, down to 4 around the hour mark and end it around 1.5 hours or just keep going from there if I feel good and the tables are good.