If you tell a chick you gonna kill her...

"If you tell a chick you gonna kill her [if she does something you told her not to], then she gonna be trying to see if you gonna kill her. And, she’s gonna do something to get your attention in that area.… And when you whoop her, you gotta whoop her like you trying to kill her to convince her that she should be dead when she beg you ‘Daddy, don’t kill me like you said you was gonna do. I won’t do it no mo’.’ Because they gonna test you man. And whatever you say out your mouth, they gonna make sure you stand by that."

Agree or disagree?

I don't believe for a minute that spoon is this much of a dick IRL.

Let's hope so. Seems pretty far gone.

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I don't believe for a minute that spoon is this much of a dick IRL.

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How's it being a dick to stand by what you say you're going to do as a man?

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Originally Posted by spoonitnow

How's it being a dick to stand by what you say you're going to do as a man?

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I think it's being a dick to threaten to kill your gf. If she did something so bad that you have to threaten to kill her if she does it again she should no longer be your gf.

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Originally Posted by ImSavy

I think it's being a dick to threaten to kill your gf. If she did something so bad that you have to threaten to kill her if she does it again she should no longer be your gf.

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ImSavy does not understand conditional statements.

Be a man of your word and kill her. You don't want her thinking she is with a dishonest man.

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Originally Posted by GrayFoxxxx

Be a man of your word and kill her. You don't want her thinking she is with a dishonest man.

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Psh don't tell her you're going to kill her to begin with.

You can't say the consequence is going to be X if you aren't going to do X.

Don't say anything. Just kill her,,make sure everyone knows you killed her but nobody can prove it. Next chick won't even need telling.

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Don't say anything. Just kill her,,make sure everyone knows you killed her but nobody can prove it. Next chick won't even need telling.

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Very rong.

The next chick will want to know if it's all true, and she's going to test you just the same until she learns for herself.

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How's it being a dick to stand by what you say you're going to do as a man?

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If you threaten to kill your gf, well you're a dick. You become more of a dick by following through with your threat than you do by not doing so.

I know I'm just tapping the aquarium here.

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If you threaten to kill your gf, well you're a dick. You become more of a dick by following through with your threat than you do by not doing so.

I know I'm just tapping the aquarium here.

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Who said anything about this being towards someone's girlfriend? What if it was an employee? Why does it have to be threatening to kill her?

What if you tell your wife that you will not tolerate her using emasculating language towards you in front of her friends? If she decides to do it anyway, then what should be done to show her that you will not take her shit?

I'm a pretty tolerant guy, the idea of "will not tolerate" is kind of alien to me. I'm not a control freak. People can do what they like, and if I have a problem with what they do, then I deal with it.

http://i.imgur.com/qw2b9Jf.jpg

why is this a thread?

someone emasculated spoon somewhere along the lines

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Who said anything about this being towards someone's girlfriend? What if it was an employee? Why does it have to be threatening to kill her?

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Ha.

Framing the (real) female tendency to egg you on and put every limpdicked ultimatum to the test around some misogynistic borderline psychopathic shit that BJMJ said in between his 3rd and 4th blunt isn't going to win you that many hearts and minds from the other side.

It's a real female tendency, or a real human tendency expressed by the person in the role which happens to be a female in this hypothetical?

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It's a real female tendency, or a real human tendency expressed by the person in the role which happens to be a female in this hypothetical?

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It's a real female tendency.

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Research finds women feel happy when their husband or partner is upset.

The detailed study found that wives or girlfriends were pleased when their partner showed emotion because they believed it demonstrated a healthy relationship.

The survey, carried out by Harvard Medical School, also found that when men realised their wife was angry, the women reported being happier, although the men were not.

It revealed women most likely enjoyed spotting when their partner was dissatisfied because it showed his strong “engagement” or “investment” in their time together.

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/sex...-is-upset.html

If you get to the point where you tell a bitch you gotta kill her.

you move the fuck on. She shouldn't be testing you like that anyway. You tell her you gonna kill her, then you throw her ass out.

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If you get to the point where you tell a bitch you gotta kill her.

you move the fuck on. She shouldn't be testing you like that anyway. You tell her you gonna kill her, then you throw her ass out.

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You have to tell the girl something from time to time if she does something she doesn't need to be doing. Telling her you're going to kill her is probably not the best thing to say for most females.

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/sex...-is-upset.html

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Any supporting studies? I tried to think of ways to google for them, but came up blank. And I'm not asking as a rebuttal or deferment to acknowledging the evidence, I am swayed, but still skeptical-- and I'm probably skeptical, because I had a half laugh half cry feeling while reading the article.

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You have to tell the girl something from time to time if she does something she doesn't need to be doing. Telling her you're going to kill her is probably not the best thing to say for most females.

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Unsure what level you're on, but why do you need to be dictating her behavior? If something bothers you about how she is behaving, let her know that it bothers you and try to explain why. If it bothers you because of issues you have, then you should sort your shit out. If she doesn't value what you guys have together enough to not need threats*, then you probably should just avoid the threats and break it off.

*or maybe more accurately, if she isn't smart enough to understand the inherent threat of the relationship being terminated

I think that if women are happier when their SO is upset, it's because they already know there is a problem yet couldn't do anything about it because their SO wasn't opening up about the problem's existence. The first place women tend to go when it comes to solving problems is emotional support. If somebody is angry about something, women have a more clear understanding of what to do than if there is no emotion (yet still an obvious problem).

Men are the same way, just in different ways. Think back to the last time you had a problem yet you didn't know its cause or what to do about it. Shit was frustrating as fuck. But once you started getting a handle on it, you started feeling better

"I don't know if someone loves me if I can't make them cry." - Marc Maron

season2 of maron started a little weak, but then got real great, real fast.

where are you watching season 2? i finished 1 on netflix. ill do projectfree.tv if i have to but it's not the most convenient.

I've only listened to one of Maron's podcast, which was a pretty great interview with Mike Myers-- but I have to say, he is one whiny little bitch.

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Any supporting studies? I tried to think of ways to google for them, but came up blank. And I'm not asking as a rebuttal or deferment to acknowledging the evidence, I am swayed, but still skeptical-- and I'm probably skeptical, because I had a half laugh half cry feeling while reading the article.

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Hey guys, don't forget that it's wrong to tell a girl that you're going to kill her to get her to act right, but it's just fine to actually kill babies so that she can keep doing stupid shit.

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If you get to the point where you tell a bitch you gotta kill her.

you move the fuck on. She shouldn't be testing you like that anyway. You tell her you gonna kill her, then you throw her ass out.

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@bold, yes she should be testing you. It's 100% for the benefit of the human race that she tests you. If you can't handle a woman flipping the fuck out on some bullshit on a regular basis, then how can you possibly provide for offspring with that woman and protect yourself, her and your children?

Couldn't you better provide for your offspring if you could allocate your energy and stress tolerances to things besides a crazy woman? Remember, the selection process goes both ways...

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Couldn't you better provide for your offspring if you could allocate your energy and stress tolerances to things besides a crazy woman? Remember, the selection process goes both ways...

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Sanity and a woman's inherent need to test her mate are not related.

In one breath you invoke evolutionary mechanisms, in the next you seem to be claiming some sort of intrinsic and everlasting trait.

Pretty sure the framing that "she tests him" is wrong. Maybe later I'll gather my thoughts and explain why

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Hey guys, don't forget that it's wrong to tell a girl that you're going to kill her to get her to act right, but it's just fine to actually kill not-babies so that she (and he) can keep doing stupid shit.

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This shit isn't nearly as fun when you guys don't vote. Maybe I should have just asked who has ever hit a woman (outside of sex)? I've personally hit three. One was stealing four-figures from me in a hotel room, one was trying to kill me, and the other was running her dick-licker.

time for you to do a marry/fuck/kill on those three chicks

Marry the third, and the first two can share the other two options.

why oh why hasnt spoon posted about christy mack and war machine

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lol that guy's a fucking idiot, I can't stand reckless, impulsive narcissists who masquerade as psychopaths.

With that having been said, and on a fairly unrelated note, she's a great example of an attractive female who mistook her body for a fucking coloring book and who decided on a haircut that looked like something a fucking sick parrot would do to itself.

All in all, I'm interested to see what the story is there. Apparently he went to surprise her to ask her to marry him and he was the one who got surprised when there was another dude or something?

While legitimate reasons for spousal violence exist, catching the pornstar you're dating (and whom's surname you were dumb enough to get tatooed on your neck) cheating is most certainly not one of them.

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While legitimate reasons for spousal violence exist, catching the pornstar you're dating (and whom's surname you were dumb enough to get tatooed on your neck) cheating is most certainly not one of them.

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Well I mean, I think that a cheating chick deserves somewhere in the range of a minor ass whooping, but the level he apparently took it was too far imo

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Well I mean, I think that a cheating chick deserves somewhere in the range of a minor ass whooping, but the level he apparently took it was too far imo

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If you answer in the affirmative I will always question whether you're being for real or just trolling, but I'll ask anyways: Do you really?

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If you answer in the affirmative I will always question whether you're being for real or just trolling, but I'll ask anyways: Do you really?

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On an ass whooping scale from 1 to 10, he took the shit to like a 10.5, and I think something in the range of 3 would have been more appropriate.

Then again, he's a legit nutjob, so this shouldn't surprise anybody. Have you seen him on Twitter trying to act like the "real story" just hasn't come out yet? Jesus Christ. There are some major inconsistencies in her story about how she got away, but the massive ass-whooping that she took is going to have him being totally butt-fucked in the ass.

Speaking of butt-fucked in the ass, here's a gif of the chick getting butt-fucked in the ass (NSFW): http://171gifs.com/wp-content/upload...a4l9o1_500.gif

It might be worth noting that Christy Mack has admitted that she got her ass whooped on the minor end of the scale on more than one occasion before this. I think this situation was a ticking time bomb just waiting to explode in her face.

Zinga.

And while we're at it, real niggas don't get a porn star's name tattooed on their neck.

http://i.imgur.com/NPAXE.jpg

I understand the sentiment, but I think that's still too high. Unless you're trying to quell violence currently underway, level 0 is always the answer. Maybe that's wrong, but I don't think so

I cannot think of any potential therapies where abuse or pain would be the preferred methods. I think when we think of times where violence is right (like spanking for training), we're not acknowledging all the unintended consequences and are ignorant to better solutions.

As a kid, we use to spank our dog to potty train her. It worked, but I think she resented us for it. She was sometimes reluctant around us and was less loyal than I would expect. My brother OTOH potty trained his dog without any violence whatsoever. It also worked and the dog portrayed none of the side effects of abuse that our childhood dog did

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I understand the sentiment, but I think that's still too high. Unless you're trying to quell violence currently underway, level 0 is always the answer. Maybe that's wrong, but I don't think so

I cannot think of any potential therapies where abuse or pain would be the preferred methods. I think when we think of times where violence is right (like spanking for training), we're not acknowledging all the unintended consequences and are ignorant to better solutions.

As a kid, we use to spank our dog to potty train her. It worked, but I think she resented us for it. She was sometimes reluctant around us and was less loyal than I would expect. My brother OTOH potty trained his dog without any violence whatsoever. It also worked and the dog portrayed none of the side effects of abuse that our childhood dog did

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We aren't talking about training. We're talking about beating a bitch's ass for betraying you.

Also who the fuck beats dogs to potty train them? I grew up in a family that bred and trained dogs, so maybe that's not immediately obvious to me.

Starship Troopers is a great movie that teaches an important lesson: Violence or the threat of it is the source of all power.

http://i.imgur.com/qb49WwA.jpg

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Also who the fuck beats dogs to potty train them? I grew up in a family that bred and trained dogs, so maybe that's not immediately obvious to me.

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People who don't know how to train dogs. Doesn't this mean, by logical extension, that since you think it's sometimes okay to engage in a first-strike against women, you don't know how to train them (or yourself)?

getting the shit kicked out of me enumerable times was like, the best thing that ever happened to me. i'm such a good female now. current boyfriend thanks the old one all the time. my permanently scratched retina that likes to flare up from time to time keeps me in line. good stuff.

thanks for fighting the good fight, spoon<3

If eugenics was legal, the first thing we would do is no longer let those with a propensity to violence breed. Very few things scare me; one of them is people who think violence in situations other than defense of self or others is acceptable. "Betrayal" permits somebody to get violent by a factor of a big fat zero flying fuck

^^Actually that wouldn't be the first thing we would do if eugenics was legal. We're too stupid to be smart about eugenics, so we would do it based on terrible things like race. But the way we do it with things not-human, like dogs, involves the primary concern being propensity to domestic violence

So yeah, people who think abuse is a solution should know that they're the main problem with the world

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People who don't know how to train dogs. Doesn't this mean, by logical extension, that since you think it's sometimes okay to engage in a first-strike against women, you don't know how to train them (or yourself)?

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Lightly beating a bitch's ass when you find out she's cheating on you is not training, so your argument is way over in left field somewhere dicking around.

And who said anything about abuse? The only abuse that happened was her abusing her role in the relationship, him abusing his neck by tattooing that whore's name on it, and her being abused with an ass-whooping that was [roughly] 7.5 points too high on the scale out of ten.

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getting the shit kicked out of me enumerable times was like, the best thing that ever happened to me. i'm such a good female now. current boyfriend thanks the old one all the time. my permanently scratched retina that likes to flare up from time to time keeps me in line. good stuff.

thanks for fighting the good fight, spoon<3

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I think I overshot the mark with this thread, but I hadn't made a thread in a while. The Christy Mack/War Machine debacle was a happy accident in the sense that it coincided with my random notion to use a quote from a 90s documentary about pimps to start a thread.

Not much to add except to echo the carebear sentiments of wufwugy. I will say that there's a rather serious double standard in our culture of what violence we permit and do not permit. Male against female violence is certainly a major problem in society and I don't want to downplay that, as I grew up around domestic violence, but we frequently permit and even sometimes laugh at female against male violence all the time. I try to treat this issue with a high enough level of seriousness without giving too much fuel to the fire of rad-fem rhetoric, and it can be a delicate balance.

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Not much to add except to echo the carebear sentiments of wufwugy. I will say that there's a rather serious double standard in our culture of what violence we permit and do not permit. Male against female violence is certainly a major problem in society and I don't want to downplay that, as I grew up around domestic violence, but we frequently permit and even sometimes laugh at female against male violence all the time. I try to treat this issue with a high enough level of seriousness without giving too much fuel to the fire of rad-fem rhetoric, and it can be a delicate balance.

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To summarize the most recent findings on the subject: Somewhere between 40 and 60 percent of domestic violence is performed by women depending on the criteria used.

On a related note: Men are also raped (and molested) at similar rates as women.

Related-to-the-tangent reading: http://washingtonexaminer.com/no-1-i...rticle/2551980

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Not much to add except to echo the carebear sentiments of wufwugy. I will say that there's a rather serious double standard in our culture of what violence we permit and do not permit. Male against female violence is certainly a major problem in society and I don't want to downplay that, as I grew up around domestic violence, but we frequently permit and even sometimes laugh at female against male violence all the time. I try to treat this issue with a high enough level of seriousness without giving too much fuel to the fire of rad-fem rhetoric, and it can be a delicate balance.

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a very early episode of How I Met Your Mother bothered me a lot for this exact reason.. (I only saw the first maybe.. 6 episodes, not by choice - i don't care for that show at all). anyway the storyline was something about a girl he dated being an expert at krav maga and she basically beat him up for dumping her twice, some shit like that. and allison hannigan beating her fists against jason segal.. i think.

i also remember another time, in a nonfiction writing class, this girl was reading something she wrote about her family life. in it, her mother physically attacked her stepfather, who had not done anything to physically intimidate her in any way. she lauded her mothers actions in the piece, as did a few other people in class. so i spoke up, and i was basically like... look, i understand why man-on-woman domestic violence might offend people more - there is a physical advantage, and in this case, it doesnt sound like your mom posed the same kind of physical threat to him as he would be able to pose to her. that being said, it's pretty unacceptable for us to be congratulating anyone for violence against their spouse, man or woman. it's not okay for anyone to do that to their partner, especially completely unprovoked.

a guy came up to me after class to thank me for saying that, because as a man, he didn't feel comfortable speaking up about it..

so yes, generally speaking, men have the physical edge over women, and so i think women are more vulnerable to psychotic abusive men.. most guys probably don't need to worry about being overpowered physically by their girlfriends if they piss them off. part of the reason my relationship was as insidious and toxic as it was because he dominated me physically (we're talking 115 lb waify girl vs a 200+ weightlifter/gymnast).. and i hear more stories about guys killing their girlfriends than girlfriends killing their boyfriends, but that's purely anecdotal, i admit.

nonetheless, I share wugy's stance on violence.. and while I think it's less likely for a woman to be able to establish physical dominion over a guy, it's still a) not ok to attack them regardless of whether they can properly defend themselves, and b) we shouldn't live in a culture that makes men ashamed to speak out against this sort of thing, because there -are- cases where the guy is being seriously physically abused and cannot defend himself. and that ties into our cultures ideas about masculinity and what "real man" is, and affects what men even feel comfortable talking about publicly.

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a very early episode of How I Met Your Mother bothered me a lot for this exact reason.. (I only saw the first maybe.. 6 episodes, not by choice - i don't care for that show at all). anyway the storyline was something about a girl he dated being an expert at krav maga and she basically beat him up for dumping her twice, some shit like that. and allison hannigan beating her fists against jason segal.. i think.

i also remember another time, in a nonfiction writing class, this girl was reading something she wrote about her family life. in it, her mother physically attacked her stepfather, who had not done anything to physically intimidate her in any way. she lauded her mothers actions in the piece, as did a few other people in class. so i spoke up, and i was basically like... look, i understand why man-on-woman domestic violence might offend people more - there is a physical advantage, and in this case, it doesnt sound like your mom posed the same kind of physical threat to him as he would be able to pose to her. that being said, it's pretty unacceptable for us to be congratulating anyone for violence against their spouse, man or woman. it's not okay for anyone to do that to their partner, especially completely unprovoked.

a guy came up to me after class to thank me for saying that, because as a man, he didn't feel comfortable speaking up about it..

so yes, generally speaking, men have the physical edge over women, and so i think women are more vulnerable to psychotic abusive men.. most guys probably don't need to worry about being overpowered physically by their girlfriends if they piss them off. part of the reason my relationship was as insidious and toxic as it was because he dominated me physically (we're talking 115 lb waify girl vs a 200+ weightlifter/gymnast).. and i hear more stories about guys killing their girlfriends than girlfriends killing their boyfriends, but that's purely anecdotal, i admit.

nonetheless, I share wugy's stance on violence.. and while I think it's less likely for a woman to be able to establish physical dominion over a guy, it's still a) not ok to attack them regardless of whether they can properly defend themselves, and b) we shouldn't live in a culture that makes men ashamed to speak out against this sort of thing, because there -are- cases where the guy is being seriously physically abused and cannot defend himself. and that ties into our cultures ideas about masculinity and what "real man" is, and affects what men even feel comfortable talking about publicly.

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Remember back when that guy got his dick cut off and the chick threw it in the garbage disposal, and there were women's talk shows like laughing their asses off about it?

Imagine if some guy had cut off a woman's tit and threw it in, then everybody on Sports Center is laughing their asses off at it. It would have been a national clusterfuck outrage of epic proportions.

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^^ i completely agree. i watched sharon osbourne and a few other women cackling about it on her talk show when it happened and it made me fucking rage. really disgusting.

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And what the fuck is up with circumcision? WHO says there are no advantages.

And what the fuck is up with Cosmo? Did you see that shit where the two chicks tried their lesbian sex tips? Ahahahaha what a clusterfuck.

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Literally the Disposable Male

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Remember back when that guy got his dick cut off and the chick threw it in the garbage disposal, and there were women's talk shows like laughing their asses off about it?

Imagine if some guy had cut off a woman's tit and threw it in, then everybody on Sports Center is laughing their asses off at it. It would have been a national clusterfuck outrage of epic proportions.
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Oh so it's fine for MALE comics to joke about a guy getting his dick cut off but as soon as women do it, it's horrible? Double standard much?

Comics are free to joke about anything

The dick in the disposal is an example of a gender divide. It's okay to find things that aren't meant to be funny funny, but that was a situation where virtually no men found it funny, yet the chicks thought it was hilarious. Their pleasure was based in ignorance. A good analogy would be if there was a story about a chick getting beaten and raped and a male panel was laughing about what silly movements her body was probably making. Everybody, including men, would think those people are scumbags. But for whatever cultural reasons, we had a situation where women thought it was totally awesome to put their ignorance and *cough* gender privilege *cough* on display

god you MRA types are so sensitive.

Mational Rifle Association?

I am not going to risk losing my freedom and getting sent to jail over the thought of beating my female companion. Reminds me of the cat that got its skull crushed being ran over by a bus, running back out in the middle of the road to retrieve its piece of tail that had been severed just a moment earlier. Moral of the story being, don't lose your head over a little piece of tail.

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I am not going to risk losing my freedom and getting sent to jail over the thought of beating my female companion. Reminds me of the cat that got its skull crushed being ran over by a bus, running back out in the middle of the road to retrieve its piece of tail that had been severed just a moment earlier. Moral of the story being, don't lose your head over a little piece of tail.

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wow way to put a damper on my whole life with that story :((( poor kitty..

jesus christ eberetta

This thread is such a horror show. carry on.

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What can I say? I make good threads.

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god you MRA types are so sensitive.

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Meh, I think this sort of wholesale disregard for the idea that men have feelings and suffer from gender inequalities as well is terribly counter productive. I really don't think there was an iota of Men's Rights Activist nonsense itt. Nothing said was excusing the gender inequalities that oppress women. A holistic approach is the only approach that is going to remedy or at least soften gender inequalities.

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Meh, I think this sort of wholesale disregard for the idea that men have feelings and suffer from gender inequalities as well is terribly counter productive. I really don't think there was an iota of Men's Rights Activist nonsense itt. Nothing said was excusing the gender inequalities that oppress women. A holistic approach is the only approach that is going to remedy or at least soften gender inequalities.

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daven is trolling

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Meh, I think this sort of wholesale disregard for the idea that men have feelings and suffer from gender inequalities as well is terribly counter productive. I really don't think there was an iota of Men's Rights Activist nonsense itt. Nothing said was excusing the gender inequalities that oppress women. A holistic approach is the only approach that is going to remedy or at least soften gender inequalities.

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Oooooooooooooooh that's MRA. Seriously thought we had a Mational Rifle Association

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daven is trolling

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your ridiculous threads drive me to it :x

Don't threaten to kill people, guys.