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Is Phil Ivey "The Best" Poker player in the World? Or is Phil Ivey "One of the Best" Poker players in the World? Many people say that Ivey is the best, but what proof do they have to make that sort of blanket statement?
Do you agree with or disagree with that statement?
Discuss.
who cares
i vote no because he believes in evolution.
Phil Ivey is a Lib.Quote:
Originally Posted by bode
He transcends mere titles like "The Best" or "Phil Ivey."
I have no idea how he approaches the game differently from other professionals. I do however, know that he has had a lot more success than most professional players.
Option 2
Obviously you don't, so don't respond. :roll:Quote:
Originally Posted by Lukie
No was not an option. And even if he's foolish enough to believe in Darwins theory of evolution, that does not take away from his poker talents now does it? :roll:Quote:
Originally Posted by bode
Ivey's Political views are not part of this question. get over it allready, because I have.Quote:
Originally Posted by BennyLaRue
Now try answering the original question without being sarcastic or don't reply at all. It's not that complicated. :wink:
So does that mean that Ivey is the Best player in the entire World in your opinion? Please explain.Quote:
Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla
I would have to agree with you about option 2.Quote:
Originally Posted by BankItDrew
:facepalm:
I would have to agree with you about option 2.Quote:
Originally Posted by BankItDrew
Did you ever see that one High Stakes Poker episode where Ivey folded pocket Kings to Brad Booths huge overbet on a stone cold bluff? It was classic!
Brad Booth totally outplayed Ivey on that hand.
Please explain for the slow (read "me") what level everyone is on here and then we can sort this out (quick wufwugy, CREATIONISTS!!!) or not depending on level...Quote:
Originally Posted by The_OG_Rocco
Wow I'm confused.
Phil Ivey is one of the best, maybe the best but I don't know. Therefore I didn't vote.
Guys...don't mess with Texas y'hear?
Option 2 is a good choice. I would agree with that pick.Quote:
Originally Posted by badgers
But he might be the best. What makes me qualified to make the judgement that he is only "one of the best"?
BAIT!!Quote:
Originally Posted by badgers
Why would you have to be 'qualified' to give your friggin 'opinion'? :?
Jeezuz H Kryst some of you are making this way too damn difficult. :wall:
Your damn right about that buddy. Mess with the bull and you'll get the horns.Quote:
Originally Posted by d0zer
Now back to the poll question. What say you about Phil Ivey 'dozer'?
If you could make a third option "I think he may be one of the best OR the very best, I am not entirely sure", I think that would be an acceptable compromise here.
pretty sure this thread implied opinions.Quote:
Originally Posted by badgers
ok lol I've been reading too much 2p2 I think I'll stop trolling this thread now.
sorry.
My actual sort of considered opinion is that he may well be the best, but poker is so fluid that at times other people are going to have an edge over him. He is not the best all of the time, he is almost definately not the best at every single poker variant. These issues mean that although he may well be the best all-round poker player in the world there is enough doubt about it to only vote for "one of the best".
I highly respect him as a poker player. As I do chris ferguson, alan cunningham, and daniel negreanu.Quote:
Originally Posted by The_OG_Rocco
"The absolute best" is not something i'm qualified to comment on.
http://english.martinvarsavsky.net/c...nity-thumb.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by The_OG_Rocco
cmon dozer keep up this thread is about OPINIONS.Quote:
Originally Posted by d0zer
Speaking of opinions, excellent bode.
jesus christ this thread just got hijacked
if only rocco was for real and not just an alter purposely saying contrarian stuff
My opinions, and the opinion of everyone in this thread is worthless.Quote:
Originally Posted by badgers
Furthermore, speculating about "who is the best in the world" is a juvenile endeavor reminiscent of public school. Next we'll be debating over who's dad is the toughest.
How's that for an opinion fucktards? :x
:)
That serious asian is like...the mayor of the Internet or something.
Bode, do me a favor and learn to speak Italian. 'Mavaffanculo'. :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by bode
And to whomever fkd with my poll by adding a third stupid option (Mod?) Mavaffanculo to you too pal. :wink:
thisQuote:
Originally Posted by jyms
rilla I think you're going to have to elaborate a bit on this one.Quote:
Originally Posted by The_OG_Rocco
hi guys
Ciao.Quote:
Originally Posted by XTR1000
oh damn OG you caught me out there, I already voted for number 2 without the better options. I mentally retract that vote in favour of number 3 which is clearly a superior choice.
Whos Bill Ivey???
I agree with you here. Brad Booth is obviously the best player in the world. Why isn't that an option?Quote:
Originally Posted by The_OG_Rocco
BAIT!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Galapogos
Because I don't think that Brad Booth is the best player in the world either. Booth is probably better than Ivey though.
:facepalm:
Poker in the commune ! ! ! !
BAN
:dance:Quote:
Originally Posted by badgers
Seriously what is going on in this thread?Quote:
Originally Posted by The_OG_Rocco
i thought this was obvious at first, but the more he posts, the more likely he is serious. i mean, gimmick accounts just dont put that much effort into being, well, like rocco.Quote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
True, maybe not the best. I think I remember him getting stacked by Ted Forrest one time.Quote:
Originally Posted by The_OG_Rocco
Dman might if hes still all pissy about being called out for robbing innocent people.Quote:
Originally Posted by bode
omg i just had an epiphany. is rocco the second coming of RIPjohngotti?
LOL @ second coming.
Outstanding.Quote:
Originally Posted by The_OG_Rocco
oh my god, I quite possibly have a new favorite emoticon!Quote:
Originally Posted by ATOTHEC101
:wall:
:facepalm:
close, IMO
i think this calls for another poll
Isn't that that sandwich with the olive salad spread I should make one sometime.Quote:
Originally Posted by badgers
who ever added the 3rd option to the poll gets voted poster of the year for sure.
PHIL IVEY
I vote option 4-"i think that I might know that Im sure but in mot sure if I know that for sure."
One thing I know for sure- im confused.
sorry, just felt like posting in this thread cause it made me go
:facepalm:
TY jim, this convinced me to stop reading.Quote:
Originally Posted by jyms
Did anyone see Iveys crippling hand in the WSOP this year?
He got coolered when his nut flush ran into a boat, but he made the guy who coolered him ( I may have just made up a new verb, I'm not sure) look like a complete ass. The guy gets it all in after the turn when he hits his boat, and stands up. Ivey just looks at him and says "why are you standing up? You have the nuts. You look like you're going to leave or something." The guy mumbles something, just gets leveled by Ivey. I would be pissed off too if I was him I guess, the guy turns over the near nuts, Iveys drawing dead, and the guy stands up like he's gonna maybe gonna lose or something. Ivey just makes him look foolish.
edit:
here's the vid
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=KnhKqhYNZz4
I'm looking for a good thread here....
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...wl_of_shit.jpg
dammit, didn't find one
Archie Karas
Chip Reese (RIP)
Ben Roberts
the question is wrong though.
lol @ Archie Karas being even one of the best ever. He was just a sick sick degenerate gambler.
He crushed Stuey HU.Quote:
Originally Posted by bode
He crushed Chip HU.
He's a living Vegas legend.
But he also loves baccarat, probably enough to justify dropping 20M to it in 10 days.
To be the best ever, you must also be a sick sick degenerate gambler. These two concepts go hand in hand. Since, well, poker IS gambling.
Money should have absolutely no value whatsoever for you.
rocco where do you rank hellmuth up there?
Correct thread. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by will641
Hellmuth is the best player of all time ldo.
In my honest opinion, Hellmuth is one of the best NLHE Tournament Players alive today. Although I do not approve of his childish rants when he loses pots. Very unprofessional i.m.o.Quote:
Originally Posted by will641
As far as Hellmuth playing in the High Stakes Cash Games, I think he is actually much weaker than other cash game Pro's like The Brunsons, Chan, Negraneu, Booth, Harman, Deeb, Farha, Esfandiari, Laak, Greenstein, Wasicka, and others.
Even Guy Laliberte is better than Hellmuth at the Cash Games i.m.o. That's probably because people like Guy Laliberte have 'street smarts'.
I don't think Hellmuth has the 'street smarts' needed to win consistently in high stakes cash games.
how do you have real arguments for these people when all you know is random snipits from tv shows and stories people tell
i would be willing to bet durrrr doesnt have street smarts, and he is among the top earners of online poker.Quote:
Originally Posted by The_OG_Rocco
[quote="will641"]fypQuote:
Originally Posted by The_OG_Rocco
Tera Patrick > Briana Banks > Olivia Saint imo
Bill Fillmaff is the best
yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa :heart:Quote:
Originally Posted by XTR1000
When Jenna Haze is on, she's on, imo. Not the best looking chick, but a hell of a star.Quote:
Originally Posted by XTR1000
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Originally Posted by XTR1000
FYP
90s pornstars. :PQuote:
Originally Posted by XTR1000
Rebecaa Linares FTW ! ! ! !
Is it wrong that i want to fuck your avatar???Quote:
Originally Posted by iopq
Thread stopped being funny 2 pages ago
now hold on a sec, are you implying that people are gaining amusement out of op's ridiculous poll???Quote:
Originally Posted by jyms
OUTRAGEOUS!
I'm implying that it could not sustain it's amusing tone for some god awful reason even though there was plenty of humour to start off. After I changed the poll to add the much needed "3rd option" the funniness of the thread started to decrease. sarcasm is always funny for the first 5 posts but after that we need a large influx of wit, banter and even a quote or two. I demand more humour out of the poker threads in the commune, or Rilla will not allow this to continue.
http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/i...nistmethod.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by The_OG_Rocco
'theory' in the scientific community far surpasses the threshhold of 'fact' for any other community that I can think of.
LOL @ the buddy Christ. I just watched Dogma again 2 days ago.
tera patrick isnt even that hot
lol awesome pic lukie.
If darwins "Theory" is true, then where is the so called 'Missing Link' tard?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lukie
There isn't any. No missing link = no proof = only a 'theory'. Not fact. :roll:
So bugger off azz clown. :wink:
he's absolutely right, sorry guys.
To use your own stupid analogy, i'd take a missing link than a missing chain (ala creationism).Quote:
If darwins "Theory" is true, then where is the so called 'Missing Link' tard?
There isn't any. No missing link = no proof = only a 'theory'. Not fact.
So bugger off azz clown.
To take it one step further, where is the missing link in the theory of evolution? Re: 'theory' of evolution', that's just what it's called in the scientific community. It's theory AND fact. They are not mutually exclusive. Think of scientific facts as the world's data-- we know evolution to be true. It's such an incredibly robust theory. Theories are ways to organize data to interpret and detail facts.
Think of it in terms of gravity. I could come up with a theory about the graviton that explains gravity in the universe. The theory might be wrong but it doesn't mean that gravity doesn't exist. Of course, my 'theory' would never be accepted as a theory in the scientific community.
It's all a moot point because it's pretty obvious you're a troll anyway, but whatever.
there are moments where I feel like the whole "darwin vs creatonism"-thingy is only made up to level us euros.
Well played.Quote:
Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla
It's so wrong. But it feels so right.Quote:
Originally Posted by wesrman
Friggin thread jackers. Stick to the question at hand!
Phil Ivey! best ever or one of the best?
I say he's one of the best, not the best ever.
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Originally Posted by XTR1000
indeed - i can't believe that there are people that stupid in the world - surely it's just a big joke???
Make a thread with a topic doesnt suck, and we'll stick to it.Quote:
Originally Posted by The_OG_Rocco
i haven't opened up this thread since it was first published but was wondering why it was so popular. Now my question is: how the hell did creationism come up in this thread?
its the new blackQuote:
Originally Posted by BankItDrew
phil ivey was created by God and Baby Jesus to pwn high stakes fish.
Phil Hellmuth evolved from either the northernmost clan of Redback Orang-Utans or common household cockroaches.
See the 3rd post on page one authored by "Bode".Quote:
Originally Posted by BankItDrew