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MARIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
F U both along with your above average football teams
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Originally Posted by WildBobAA
sucks having a decent team but being destined to finish 3rd or 4th in your division every year.
I'm curious how many winning seasons combined our two teams have had in the last decade or so.Quote:
Originally Posted by WildBobAA
If I had to venture a guess, I'd say 2.
now that i could think about, you could probably just count all 3 of ours :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Lukie
So, Browns v Jets tonight. There are a lot of players and matchups that I'll be watching, but one really sticks out in my mind
The Jets O-line, in particular, the left side with Da'Brick, Faneca, and Mangold vs. the Browns newly re-vamped D-line, which for all intents and purposes, also includes Kam Wimbley. He is basically a right end and has a sick outside duck-under move. Now last year what happened is the QB would step up in the pocket and the LT would shove him outside. Hopefully we can get an actual push up the middle, which was unheard of last year.
Raiders/Niners friday and i cant wait.
Our last one was 2000. Look at this sadness, especially the playoff history.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lukie
http://www.jt-sw.com/football/pro/te...istories/lions
lol at the 1950s
Go Colts!
...In other news, Favre is now a Jet. That's awesome.
its preseason. who cares?
1 playoff win in 50 years? Impressive.Quote:
Originally Posted by WildBobAA
Me. I don't care about the outcome of the games but I want to see some football, see the starters play for a small portion of the game, then see players I likely won't see a whole lot of for the rest of the season. really.Quote:
Originally Posted by will641
of course, i will be much more excited in a month or so when the real games start.
I'm also interested in the preseason. I want to get my first look at Drew Stanton tonight.
BRETT FAVRE!!!!!!!!
i just cant stand it when people make predictions based on the preseason, if you know what i mean, because the preseason means absolutely nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lukie
Agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by will641
I just want to see Darren McFadden in a Raider uni. Not in a gay way though. :p
preseason records mean little but saying the preseason is meaningless is wrong.
It means something, but mainly to the coaches and scouts. Information the general public gleans from the pre-season is usually completely wrong, or only right by accident.
okay, if miami went 4-0 this year, would that lead you to believe they are going to have a good year?Quote:
Originally Posted by gabe
edit: im just trying to make a point that you cant make good predictions based on the preseason. theres probably a greater correlation between reg season record from previous season.
Playing for the JETS, WTF?Quote:
Originally Posted by givememyleg
are you going to any games this year at the new stadium? my wife already got me my birthday present for december 7th against the bungals.Quote:
Originally Posted by dalecooper
We'll see how things play out. I have my eye on the Jax game, that's always an intense matchup. Those guys hate us so much.Quote:
Originally Posted by bode
happy that farve went to the jets. i didnt want him commanding the bucs against my panthers. a couple of interesting facts about the nfc south
Until the 2007-08 playoffs, a team from the NFC South had appeared in every NFC Championship Game since the 2002 realignment: Tampa Bay (2002), Carolina (2003 & 2005), Atlanta (2004), and New Orleans (2006). The NFC South is also the first division since the realignment that has had each team in the division make at least one NFC Championship Game appearance.
From 2003 to 2007, the team that finished in last place in the division year has, the next season, finished in first place. Carolina finished last in 2002, and first in 2003. Atlanta finished last in 2003, and first in 2004. Tampa Bay finished last in 2004, and first in 2005. New Orleans finished last in 2005, and finished first in 2006. Tampa Bay, who finished last in 2006, finished first in 2007. If the trend continues in 2008, it would be Atlanta Falcons.
preseason is pretty much meaningless IF your a veteran.Quote:
Originally Posted by gabe
GO COWBOYS
Go Steelers!!!!!!!!!!
The Colts are a good example of this. Every year it seems.. 0-4 in the preseason. But if you watch the one or two series that Manning plays, the offense looks SHARP. You can tell they have some talent.Quote:
Originally Posted by will641
But the starters play so little, and it seems like there's little to no game planning and strategy.
I didn't watch the HOF game, so I can't really say if what I said would apply this year. I do know they lost though. :)
BROWNS are on my hit list after the cincy cleveland game last year. That should have been easy money. Browns go 8-8 this year.
LETS GO BORDIE CROYLE
lolwayunder500seasonQuote:
Originally Posted by Triptanes
PRESEASON IS MEANINGLESSQuote:
Originally Posted by gabe
ur wrongQuote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
all im saying is that preseason is just slightly more reliable than astrology for predicting regular season.
gonna be really weird watching favre on the jets.
aaron rodgers is gonna be really good though. packers are going to the superbowl this year. hopefully nfc championship game is vs the giants again for revenge.
Lukie get an avatar yo
lolQuote:
Originally Posted by EzDuzIt
ok... they are stacked, easily could have made it last year. losing brett isnt that big of a deal now we will have a qb who wont be fucking up play off games making retarded throws. rodgers will probably put up pro bowl type numbers. go ahead and save that quote and you will see by the end of the season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Triptanes
whoa wtf. you are posting outside the commune? all of a sudden you post 30 times, wtf?Quote:
Originally Posted by bigspenda73
I r an expert post-whore yo, I forget you weren't around at my peak!
TOM BRADY
Also, our dline is going to break Favre's legs. Forced retirement he won't return from.
I was thinking the same thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigspenda73
+1 I watched the Family Night Scrimmage and ARogers looks very good and he will surprise a lot of people. He throws a very nice ball with some heat. The team worked very hard in the offseason, they had a ridiculously high attendance percentage in off season workouts and voluntary OTA's, and this is still essentially the same team as last year, without BFavre obv. Although, Brett was fading in the big games the last few years, not just last year. IMO, he quit in the Dallas game last year before leaving to injury; he was chucking and ducking like if he was in a backyard game.Quote:
Originally Posted by EzDuzIt
GO PACK!
i define pro bowl numbers as such: 3500+ yds, 22+ TD's, >60% completion.Quote:
Originally Posted by EzDuzIt
eh, he might be able to do it. the packers have some weapons.
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Originally Posted by will641
prop bet he doesnt? oh and that wsop bet is still on, i thought i had you when nuts made the run.
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Raiders/Niners tonight.
Plus the fact that the NFC is relatively weak quarterback-wise compared to the AFC where you basically have two guys almost guaranteed to take up 2/3rds of the AFC QB pro bowl spots.Quote:
Originally Posted by will641
This all has merit, but i think he will struggle this year. Even with the weapons he has, he is under a ton of pressure. 1 or 2 bad games and he might end up being a head case.Quote:
Originally Posted by WildBobAA
TOM BRADY
too bad madden will not be out for the PC this year. I guess I have to use the football-freaks roster updates only then.
gotta get my bodog account loaded for the start of the season as well.
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Originally Posted by wesrman
are the raiders playing #2? i want to see what this kid is capable of irl
I hope so cuz i cant wait to see him either. Especially with McFadden behind him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer
Maybe one day we wont suck. :(
I don't think he's going to make the pro bowl, in fact I think he's going to be pretty bad. All I was saying is that since he's in the NFC, it's at least possible where as if he were in the AFC, he'd basically have no shot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trikflow77
YES hes starting tonight and the job is his for the season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer
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Originally Posted by UG
this is probably more like it though
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...having-fun.jpg
The Chiefs looked pretty good against the Bears. Granted, it was the freaking Bears, but they looked okay. Hopefully two years from now all of our young pups will turn into badasses and the Chiefs can get back to their glory days when they made the Playoffs every year just to get bounced in the first round. Wouldn't that be something!
The Raider D looked pretty good. Especially the secondary, which could be the best in the NFL. McFadden also looked great.
I know its too early to say, but this could be the start of us not sucking. :)
+1Quote:
Originally Posted by bigred
honestly uglessthan3, this gets your point across perfectly. the other one looks too forced, almost like you're trying too hard.Quote:
Originally Posted by UG
Take it to another thread. Don't start cluttering up mine with this crap again.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigred
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/g...6_williams.jpg
"Don't worry about sucking so much Reggie. Here, I'll give you a hug"
MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! :cool:
Houston Texans FTMFW!
First preseason game today woooooh!
BUMP ! ! ! !
chiefs are going to be so god damn horrible
lol wersman, nice sig
Thanks UG :)Quote:
Originally Posted by UG
Any word on when this place might be fixed???
Usi out for the year, wow, that shakes things up in the NFC a bit.
Teams need to start taking their cues for LT, sit out during the preseason, seriously what did Umenyiora need to prove playing in a preseason game?
http://www.deadspin.com/sports/cunninghamfinger.jpg
Just a quick trip down memory lane for you Chiefs fans.
Bunch of sore losers IMO.
GO BRONCOS
YOU'RE NUMBER ONEQuote:
Originally Posted by Ragnar4
that's all he was saying!
remember the Patriots Undefeated Season? woops I mean 19-1 Season.
Let's do some predictions. (these will probably be horribly wrong)
NFC East
Cowboys
Eagles
Giants
Redskins
NFC North
Vikings
Packers
Lions
Bears
NFC South
Saints
Buccanneers
Panthers
Falcons
NFC West
Rams
Seahawks
Cardinals
49ers
AFC East
Patriots
Jets
Bills
Dolphins
AFC North
Steelers
Browns
Ravens
Bengals
AFC South
Colts
Jags
Texans
Titans
AFC West
Chargers
Raiders
Broncos
Chiefs
NFC Wild Cards
Eagles, Buccanneers
AFC Wild Cards
Jets, Jags
Superbowl
Cowboys over Patriots
lol at eagles being wild card and finishing 2nd in division. in terms of strength of division, i think nfc east is arguably 2nd toughest in the nfl, behind AFC south (based on last year). i would say its up in the air between AFC north and NFC east.
:wall:Quote:
Originally Posted by mrhappy333
Make a prediction then instead of bringing the hate on mine. Also I agree with you about the NFC East being one of the strongest divisions, but I don't see how that means Philly isn't going to get the wildcard.Quote:
Originally Posted by will641
okay, cowboys, redskins, giants, eagles.Quote:
Originally Posted by WildBobAA
homer! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by will641
i knew you would say that. i picked the giants to miss the playoffs like 4 months ago, and i stand by that pick. and the eagles just flat out suck balls. fwiw, i think most of your other picks are good. divisions like NFC west and south are too bad and inconsistent, respectively, to make good picks.Quote:
Originally Posted by WildBobAA
I think the NFC East is probably the hardest division to pick this year. You have the Cowboys who are clearly the best team in that division and should win it (but doesn't mean they will). But then I could see any of the other three teams finishing second. I think Philly is gonna be good this year but we'll see.
if the eagles land in the cellar again this year i will eat my hat.
it's just not gonna happen.
NFC East = Cowboys > Eagles > Giants > Redskins
G-men lost the 2 main reasons they won the super bowl (Strahan/Umenyiora), they will be mediocre. The Cowboys will have another impressive regular season and then lose round 1 of the playoffs...again...hahaha...12 years since playoff win. Eagles always have a good chance to win with McNabb/Reid/Westbrook and it just varies based on how good the other NFC East teams are. Redskins have new coaches/new offense. The learning curb will kill them this year (and so will their divisional mates) and they finish last...I should know I am a Redskins fan :wall:
yeah mcnabb is pretty sweet :roll:Quote:
Originally Posted by sinister1
is mcnabb injured yet?
as always, i love the mcnabb hate.
if he stays healthy (which he did last year, though he was hampered still) he will be a top 6 or 7 QB. book it, haters. he's one of the least intercepted QB's playing, by far.
he's the 2nd best QB in the division, and still has the skills to be the best in it.
no hate, just sympathyQuote:
Originally Posted by dthorne04
The Eagles finished 8-8 last year despite ranking in the top 10 in both offense and defense (yards). It's extremely rare for a team with those kinds of rankings to finish out of the playoffs.
Essentially, the team's problems last year were threefold:
1. Poor offensive performance in the red zone.
2. Lack of turnovers on defense.
3. Poor special teams play.
A Donovan McNabb two years removed from his ACL injury and a healthy LJ Smith should bolster the red zone offense.
Defensively, they added one of the best defensive playmakers in the NFL in Asante Samuel. They bolstered the pass rush with Chris Clemons, who quietly had 8 sacks last year as a part time player for a bad Oakland team.
They've added special teams contributors like Rocky Boiman, Kris Wilson, and Dan Klecko. Furthermore, they drafted two rookie returners in DeSean Jackson and Quinton Demps, both of whom have taken returns to the house in the preseason.
They also have the best player in the division in Brian Westbrook.
The Redskins have given Jason Campbell yet another offensive system to learn. I think Jim Zorn is a good quarterbacks coach. But I don't have much faith in a 55 year old first time head coach. Look at the performance of most coaches in the NFL once they creep toward their mid or late 50s, let alone first timers. They're also relying upon a plethora of rookie wide receivers to complement a declining Santana Moss and they've lost Gregg Williams at the helm of the defense.
As for the Giants, I don't expect Eli to recreate the run he made at the end of last season, where his hot streak allowed the Giants to emerge out of a mediocre NFC. Also, their dominant pass rush has been hamstrung by the losses of Strahan and Osi. Obviously last year bought Tom Coughlin a lot of credibility in the locker room, but I don't see them as having the talent for lightning to strike twice.
The Cowboys are probably the most talented team in the division. Football Outsiders/Pro Football Prospectus, probably the best independent football analysts out there, predict them to crash and burn. I don't see that, not with the players they have on both sides of the ball. However, I don't see them making any kind of deep run with a guy like Wade Phillips at the helm, unless Jason Garrett takes over the team.
In the AFC, I still see the Patriots and Colts as the cream of the crop, with the Chargers nipping at their heels. The Patriots will probably come back to Earth a bit-their offense will still be explosive, but I think age and injuries on defense will take their toll (particularly in the secondary).
fypQuote:
Originally Posted by dthorne04
hater, are you a cowboys homer?Quote:
Originally Posted by will641
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Originally Posted by dthorne04
GOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGO! ! ! !
"If he stays healthy"Quote:
Originally Posted by dthorne04
The ability to stay healthy in professional football is a massively important attribute for a player, especially in a position like QB where you can't just plug another guy in the system. If you are injured and can't get on the field, you can't contribute, and you're worthless (actually less than worthless, since you're taking up a roster spot) to the team. Most fans don't understand this.
Speaking of plugging guys into the system at QB, the Eagles seem to do that quite well. Every QB that plays there does extremely well. I remember a few years back their second and third stringer were playing well and winning games-- off the top of my head, AJ Feeley and Koy Detmer maybe? Then more recently, Jeff Garcia lit it up there.
I think McNabb is overrated, Reid is underrated, and Westbrook is hugely underrated.
oh shit
culpepper retired?
i thought he could make some sort of comeback with a shit team somewhere, but damn
well the 'skins look gooooooooood
Per Profootballtalk.com:
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The Cincinnati Bengals have announced that, from this point forward, Chad Johnson will be known as Chad Ocho Cinco.
Per the release: “Effective today, the Bengals begin the process of listing the former Chad Johnson as Chad Ocho Cinco for all club business, per the legal change of his surname effected in Florida. The list of appropriate changes will include Ocho Cinco wearing his new surname on the back of his jersey for Sunday’s season opener at Baltimore.”
So there you have it. On Sunday, Ocho Cinco will make his first official appearance.
UPDATE: The team’s official roster has been changed to reflect Ocho Cinco’s presence.
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Awesome.
the Skins homers on FTR are without a doubt the most irrational homers here
They think Jason Campbell is the greatest QB in history and that the Skins are destined to win the Super Bowl every year.
lol did anyone just see that graphic?
total plays/yards
Redskins: 12/16
Giants 16/233 or something like that lol