WEREWOLF MULLIGAN

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Originally Posted by DoanDiggy

As for my dranger vote, his "nail in the coffin" against Badgers was just so lolbad. He's been trying all game to seem nonchalant and unmenacing, and I don't really buy it. He had no real reason to give such a tangible excuse for not being around (I do feel bad about the RL stuff, honestly) since there wasn't much heat on him. I just think there's a decent chance he's a zombie, and I'm leaving my vote there for now.


If I had to guess, my list would be Warpe, Willbur, dranger, XTR1000, SDM. kiwiMark merits some investigation, and did anyone even realize that Pelion is playing this game? And if anyone (other than Warpe) is leveling, it could be JKDS.

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Why is it so bad? Badgers was either a wolf, or a decent liability to the village being that he has YET to post anything worth talking about. He had been quiet all game and then someone finally got the BW rolling, and keith said he was gonna finish it off but he wanted to stall it to hear a defense. I decided that a defense post from him would be relatively a waste of time, and that the BW was too far gone to be derailed anyways. If he wanted to post a defense, he could have done so WAY sooner.

2nd bold: I felt the need to inform you of my RL situation in case anything serious happened in the next few days where I would be unable to connect to FTR and therefore unable to participate. As I had been more active than 90% of the village, I assumed that would paint a target on my back and I would be lynched. Just trying to keep the noose from slipping around my neck without any reason to warrant it.

I also don't see how I've been "nonchalant" and "unmenacing," I've been playing this game exactly as I have the multiple other times I've played it. You can point the finger at me and say I was targetting the Seer, but ffs, he had been acting suspicious as hell up to the point where he had to out himself in order to NOT be strung up by the village.

I think you're trying to fish with dynamite with the list you've strung up. By that I mean, you can pick enough names that you're likely to hit a wolf with one, if not more of them, and kind of hoping someone else latches onto it and you get lucky. So sorry if I outed your "master" plan, but you outed IA's so, an eye for an eye amirite? Please, get off my back, I'm not a fucking wolf, I wouldn't be that good of a recruit candidate imo, just for the simple fact that I play to straightforward. I don't know for sure, but I think im incapable of leveling ppl. Ask kiwi or boog, theyll tell you how smartz i iz.

/long ass semi-defense post.

Lol doublepostaments

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Ask kiwi or boog, theyll tell you how smartz i iz.

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Way to drag us down with you, wolf! ;)

Can't go alone imo.

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Originally Posted by bigred

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Originally Posted by StillDeadMoney

That's a weird-looking bird.

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Originally Posted by bigred

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Originally Posted by StillDeadMoney

lynch flomo

Even though I'm pretty sure he's a villager, I would like to see a defense.

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This is retarded, do u c y?

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rescind flomo

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So is SDM always this ready to appease criticism or just zombie SDM?

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lynch flomo

Lynch SDM

They wouldn't recruit me because I'm a favored random lynch target.

But go ahead if you want to lose so bad. Ignore the obvious zombies like Warpe and Rilla.

If they are OBVIOUS zombies, why are you voting for flomo, and not them...?

Because I was looking for a flomo defense post.

Nobody wants to get on either a Rilla or Warpe BW. There's nothing I can do. And at this point, there are enough wolves to try to derail such bandwagons if they get any steam.

Chances are that tonight another villager gets hung and somebody else gets converted.

Rescind Penneywize
Lynch WilburForce

I re-read a little bit, and man he just seems quite wolfy. He's quiet, and not drawing much attention. His name has been brought up a few times, and he has just let it go, possibly out of fear of saying something wrong and escalating the bandwagon.

As an aside note, I want to lynch Warpe also. I just have no idea how he can't have been recruited by now. Obv he wasn't being protected last night, as the angel was protecting IA. Warpe has already persuaded the village numerous times, and even though the logic to lynch a vet is strong, he has still been able to push the BWs elsewhere. Also, I think a Warpe lynch could give a fair bit of information on other players.

Rescind Penneywize
Lynch WilburForce

I re-read a little bit, and man he just seems quite wolfy. He's quiet, and not drawing much attention. His name has been brought up a few times, and he has just let it go, possibly out of fear of saying something wrong and escalating the bandwagon.

As an aside note, I want to lynch Warpe also. I just have no idea how he can't have been recruited by now. Obv he wasn't being protected last night, as the angel was protecting IA. Warpe has already persuaded the village numerous times, and even though the logic to lynch a vet is strong, he has still been able to push the BWs elsewhere. Also, I think a Warpe lynch could give a fair bit of information on other players.

Whoops.. Double post leads to triple post.

To the vig: I don't think you can afford to not take a shot when night comes around. You have 2 bullets stockpiled. The village pretty much loses if we can't start to wipe out the wolves. If you get converted, then we lose those shots (I think), and are practically screwed.

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Whoops.. Double post leads to triple post.

To the vig: I don't think you can afford to not take a shot when night comes around. You have 2 bullets stockpiled. The village pretty much loses if we can't start to wipe out the wolves. If you get converted, then we lose those shots (I think), and are practically screwed.

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I've never played before but have been a bit suspicious of stax from the beginning, just 'cause I think he'd be a subtle recruit after last game. Is encouraging the vig to take pot shots not kinda wolfy, or is that just normally how it ends up going down?

the only fear of letting the vig shoot is him hitting the angel, otherwise I believe it's worth the risk

That's how ur mom goes down, with shots to the head! BAM!

let's just do what we all really want to do...

rescind penny

lynch warpe

rescind whoever. penney?
lynch warpe

It's funny 'cause bigred said what we're all thinking, imo. I don't think I even need to write out a long post justifying this, given past posts that were ignored, but if anybody really needs my reasoning (I'm looking at you, gator ;)) sing out.

I'm game with a Warpe lynch. I would be down with either him or rilla lynch today tbh. The chances are too good that either him or rilla (or both) is a wolf at this point.

Lynch Warpe

I'm not encouraging "pot-shots" as you would say.. I am encouraging the village to make out a list tonight after we have decided who to lynch, giving the vig a list of the best candidates to get shot given the results of the the lynch. The village is obviously not in good shape. I think it would be a pretty large mistake to not take a shot tonight, given we need to make up some ground.

Rescind Wilbur
Lynch Warpe

if we get a wolf tonight, we should definitely fire.

obv saying who to shot is bad, but i think if the vig randomly chose from

flomo, penny, willbur and any of the super quiet people we stand a good chance of getting lucky.

im starting to get wolfy vibes from warpe and rilla as well so they could be potential targets.

sigh. guys. lynching me would be big mistake.

I think lynching Warpe could be good. If he is a zombie, it implicates rilla, JKDS, and probably a few others (I'd have to go back through and check it out). If not, we definitely have to look at the quiet ones.

If we are reluctant to lynch Warpe because he is a good villager, well I just haven't seen that yet anyways. Obviously it sucks to get another villager, but we don't exactly have a good batting average here.

lynch Warpe

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Originally Posted by Warpe

sigh. guys. lynching me would be big mistake.

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QFT. I want to see A LOT more evidence as to why we're making this lynch. It's a pretty big day and I'd much rather lynch any of the 4 I listed earlier + bigred over warpe. I'm sticking with my lynch flomo cause I think thats way more +eV then a warpe lynch. Please real villagers don't just hop on this BW w/o going through and comparing flomo/Warpe. Flomo and the others I listed seems wayyyy more wolfy.

5 votes for warpe in under an hour. somethings amiss here.

I find it VERY interesting to see what people have diverted the Flomo bandwagon to first Penney, then Warpe.

Solidifies my belief that Flomo is a wolf and may be, in fact, the Alpha.

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Originally Posted by GatorJH

I find it VERY interesting to see what people have diverted the Flomo bandwagon to first Penney, then Warpe.

Solidifies my belief that Flomo is a wolf and may be, in fact, the Alpha.

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this. it happened so quickly i just think somethings amiss here.

lets lynch flomo, if hes a wolf lets lynch/shoot everyone that voted warpe

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Originally Posted by GatorJH

I find it VERY interesting to see what people have diverted the Flomo bandwagon to first Penney, then Warpe.

Solidifies my belief that Flomo is a wolf and may be, in fact, the Alpha.

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Yeah I'm not changing my mind here and I think all the real villagers should hop on the flomo bw over the warpe bw. If flomo turns out to be a zombie who are we shooting? We should probably discuss before we finally put a noose around his neck.

seems like br tried pretty hard to prevent it, id like to shoot him.

i'd love to go do a thread analysis here, but if hes a wolf we have no idea when he was recruited so someone he "incriminates" on say page 7 isnt necessarily a wolf. all we can be sure of is what happens on the current day so shooting br would make the most sense to me.

Also something good to note is that I made the claim that flomo could be the alpha on page 8. After this there was no defense but at page 10ish I think a bw got rolling for me(albeit I was probably suspicious at the time I requested you guys wait at least 16hrs to give me another chance to post so I could tell everyone I was the seer(This post makes it kind of obv I'm the seer to the wolves so they needed to get there BW going asap especially since I was onto flomo already and requested he post a defense multiple times. If I didn't log 6hrs earlier then I usually do we would of lost the seer and probably the game.

So yeah there's no way I'm changing my mind on this unless some of the people I trust give me a better reason to lynch one of the other people I listed.

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Originally Posted by JKDS

seems like br tried pretty hard to prevent it, id like to shoot him.

i'd love to go do a thread analysis here, but if hes a wolf we have no idea when he was recruited so someone he "incriminates" on say page 7 isnt necessarily a wolf. all we can be sure of is what happens on the current day so shooting br would make the most sense to me.

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Pretty sure I agree with this, any other suggestions?

im less willing here, but after you posted "lynch br" on the last page, willburforce voted about an hour after to lycnh warpe. i think hes good too.

i think the order goes Vigshoots -> alpha recruits. so whoever the vig is should pick one or two other guys and like toss a coin or something so that the wolves can potentially go after a villager we want to shoot.

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Originally Posted by DoanDiggy

I think lynching Warpe could be good. If he is a zombie, it implicates rilla, JKDS, and probably a few others (I'd have to go back through and check it out). If not, we definitely have to look at the quiet ones.

If we are reluctant to lynch Warpe because he is a good villager, well I just haven't seen that yet anyways. Obviously it sucks to get another villager, but we don't exactly have a good batting average here.

lynch Warpe

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look who else is voting Warpe that I've been voting for all along. I'm going to say Lynch flomo since I don't expect DD to get enough support and this looks like a good chance of a wolf and I suggest that Vig takes out DawolfDoggy.
DD made the wolves den mistake very early in the game so I think the probablity is that hes more likely the Alpha but if we can get the alpha its good for the village as long as he doesnt get the Vig.

im off to bed now

lynching me, is lynching another villager and setting us back further in finding the wolves and winning the game.

We can not listen to Instant Aces, he has no clue as to what he is doing in this game. He wants to lynch another villager for no reason at all. Let him tell us when he finds a wolf and then we act accordingly.

Warpe has no soul reading abilities, so lets let that myth die.
He is most likely a wolf just hoping to get a quick day by pointing to me and hoping Instant Aces will keep up going after me for lno reason.

so other then the old wolfman fool and the clueless seer fool , can we come up with someone who is a wolf


lynch warpe

IA are you saying youve looked flomo up and hes a wolf? Because youve already tried to lynch about 3 people in this game after looking them up and finding out theyre villagers. Since youre the confirmed seer under 24/7 angel guard I think you can afford to be a bit more explicit about your information. So far, youre the most confusing Seer weve ever had :(.

Also, I get the need for subtle trapping and all that. But when you come and flat out accuse the guy you may as well tell us where its comming from. Its not like the wolves arent going to realise youre suspicious of someone when you vote to lynch them.

I just looked through his posts again and still like a Flomo lynch as well, followed by Pelion.

As I said, no way that Warpe or Rilla are NOT wolves at this point.

Lynch Warpe.

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Originally Posted by Pelion

IA are you saying youve looked flomo up and hes a wolf? Because youve already tried to lynch about 3 people in this game after looking them up and finding out theyre villagers. Since youre the confirmed seer under 24/7 angel guard I think you can afford to be a bit more explicit about your information. So far, youre the most confusing Seer weve ever had :(.

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Once again I had PM troubles if you read the thread u'd know that I didn't have like any information for a longgg time. The only post I even mentioned spenda was when I mentioned rilla or some shit and if I didn't mention spenda(I didn't push for a lynch on him at all) it would super fucking suspicious to the wolves. The only people I wanted to lynch so far was badgers? The rest were all bws and since your trying to derail and playing the quiet game with flomo I'm going to assume your a wolf too until we lynch flomo. No I didn't confirm flomo to be a wolf because looking him up is pretty rofls for information since he's only pointed fingers in like 1 post in the whole thread until today.

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Originally Posted by Instant Aces

No I didn't confirm flomo to be a wolf

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thank you :D

everyone on the warpe wagon

IA, you literally just gave us a red light to NOT lynch flomo in your last post. I just don't understand what information we gain even if he IS a wolf? Theres obv a super slim chance hes the Alpha, but thats unlikely. Whereas, with a warpe lynch, we gain a significant amount of information if he's a wolf or a villager. The clear choice should be a Warpe lynch for today.

If Warpe ends up being a wolf, I think the wolf should shoot rilla. They definitely seem to working in concert.

I think Flomo or Willbur is a good lynch.
I still have a lot of suspection about Keith
Vig should shoot either Wrape or 'rilla IMO

I am quite surprised that JKDS is not getting mentioned at all as a possible wolf so far

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Originally Posted by StillDeadMoney

If Warpe ends up being a wolf, I think the wolf should shoot rilla. They definitely seem to working in concert.

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this sounds like rilla would have to shoot himself :lol:

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Originally Posted by TLR

I think Flomo or Willbur is a good lynch.
I still have a lot of suspection about Keith
Vig should shoot either Wrape or 'rilla IMO

I am quite surprised that JKDS is not getting mentioned at all as a possible wolf so far

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Imma just pretend you never made this post as should the rest of the village.

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Originally Posted by StillDeadMoney

If Warpe ends up being a wolf, I think the wolf should shoot rilla. They definitely seem to working in concert.

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Umm no. If 1 is a wolf I don't see how it makes the other a wolf.

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Originally Posted by StillDeadMoney

If Warpe ends up being a wolf, I think the wolf should shoot rilla. They definitely seem to working in concert.

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Umm no. If 1 is a wolf I don't see how it makes the other a wolf.

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Because it looks like they are working together. I just said that.

lhsaghdihqwodhnqwnd warpe!

Why I think Warpe isn´t a wolf: I have been bolding his name a couple of times already AND on the last two pages I cast suspicion on me for whatever reason. I´d prob be a sweet bandwagon if warpe in fact was a zombie. However, I´m willing to sacrifice the old man, b/c there will very likely be more than one zombie amongst flomo, bigred, staxo, DD and dr anger if he´s innocent, if he´s a zombie we get can clear most of the above mentioned, get rid of a good opponent and can probably shoot rilla tonight.

warpe must go

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Originally Posted by XTR1000

lhsaghdihqwodhnqwnd warpe!

Why I think Warpe isn´t a wolf: I have been bolding his name a couple of times already AND on the last two pages I cast suspicion on me for whatever reason. I´d prob be a sweet bandwagon if warpe in fact was a zombie. However, I´m willing to sacrifice the old man, b/c there will very likely be more than one zombie amongst flomo, bigred, staxo, DD and dr anger if he´s innocent, if he´s a zombie we get can clear most of the above mentioned, get rid of a good opponent and can probably shoot rilla tonight.

warpe must go

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Silly zombies. So what you're trying to say is you and the rest of ur zombie friends(most are probably in the list you supplied) recruited warpe last night and are looking for a reason to shoot rilla so your going to sac warpe, get rilla shot and clear all your names from being a zombie or am I missing something here?

rescind flomo

loljaykay

lynch flomo

I'm really not comfortable letting rilla get shot 2nite, I'd rather shoot a TLR/XTR1k regardless of what flomo turns up as.

STOP LYNCHING WARPE

I'm not sure if he was converted last night. But I like that almost everyone I dont trust today is starting the warpe bandwagon. bigred, flomo, sdm, xtr. These are guys who Ive never thought were villagers.

I think warpe is a terrible lynch because he was a confirmed villager 2 me 2 days ago, and not the greatest recruiting target the last 2 nights. AND he's one of the two EASIEST lynch targets right now. The wolves tried to get me yesterday at the beginning of the day and now they're swinging for Warpe.

wilbur, bigred, kiwimark, xtr, flomo (possibly sdm but I think he may be a villager)

I agree with you 100% rilla. Real villagers please hop on flomo BW and lets see where it takes us.

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Originally Posted by bigred

let's just do what we all really want to do...

rescind penny

lynch warpe

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Originally Posted by kiwiMark

rescind whoever. penney?
lynch warpe
It's funny 'cause bigred said what we're all thinking, imo. I don't think I even need to write out a long post justifying this, given past posts that were ignored, but if anybody really needs my reasoning (I'm looking at you, gator ;)) sing out.

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LOL if the villagers are bad enough to fall for this, then we're screwed.

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Originally Posted by dranger7070

I'm game with a Warpe lynch. I would be down with either him or rilla lynch today tbh. The chances are too good that either him or rilla (or both) is a wolf at this point.

Lynch Warpe

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though villager to me.

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Originally Posted by XxStacksxX

Rescind Wilbur
Lynch Warpe

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Villager to me.

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Originally Posted by DoanDiggy

I think lynching Warpe could be good. If he is a zombie, it implicates rilla, JKDS, and probably a few others (I'd have to go back through and check it out). If not, we definitely have to look at the quiet ones.

If we are reluctant to lynch Warpe because he is a good villager, well I just haven't seen that yet anyways. Obviously it sucks to get another villager, but we don't exactly have a good batting average here.

lynch Warpe

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Another villager to me, posts good reasons.

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Originally Posted by flomo

lynching me, is lynching another villager and setting us back further in finding the wolves and winning the game.

We can not listen to Instant Aces, he has no clue as to what he is doing in this game. He wants to lynch another villager for no reason at all. Let him tell us when he finds a wolf and then we act accordingly.

Warpe has no soul reading abilities, so lets let that myth die.
He is most likely a wolf just hoping to get a quick day by pointing to me and hoping Instant Aces will keep up going after me for lno reason.

so other then the old wolfman fool and the clueless seer fool , can we come up with someone who is a wolf


lynch warpe

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These are not suspicions, these are character attacks. Against the seer, aswell. (Who is the only confirmed lynch-pin of the village. We need him to know how to build appropriate suspicion.) Why would a villager character attack others?

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Originally Posted by XTR1000

lhsaghdihqwodhnqwnd warpe!

Why I think Warpe isn´t a wolf: I have been bolding his name a couple of times already AND on the last two pages I cast suspicion on me for whatever reason. I´d prob be a sweet bandwagon if warpe in fact was a zombie. However, I´m willing to sacrifice the old man, b/c there will very likely be more than one zombie amongst flomo, bigred, staxo, DD and dr anger if he´s innocent, if he´s a zombie we get can clear most of the above mentioned, get rid of a good opponent and can probably shoot rilla tonight.

warpe must go

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That's the warpe bandwagon. Powered by 4 of my 5 suspicious peoples. I'mma check the rilla wagon from a day or 2 ago.

please note I wanna lynch warpe to nail the bandwagoning zombies who voted before me. and lets be honest, hes posting a lot and a so called vet and whatnot, but the fact that neither warpe nor rilla have been a great help till now indicates that there MUST be something wrong with at least one of them

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lynch rilla

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not sure if he's v or w.

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Originally Posted by BooG690

I like a rilla or Warpe lynch. As for now, I wouldn't mind getting some heat on rilla.

Lynch Rilla

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Originally Posted by XxStacksxX

imo... LOL lynch Rilla/Warpe.

Both are seriously acting hella suspicious. Rilla comes out asking for the Angel to protect him, which could be presumably for a few reasons. One reason being he had a hunch as to who the angel was, and as a zombie, was hoping the angel wouldn't protect himself and his guard would be down. Rilla came out saying that if Bode is a wolf, then he (Rilla) would be a confirmed villager. Obviously, this is futile trying to say you are a confirmed villager, because past actions do not matter much in a recruitment game because you can be changed at any given time.

I think Rilla is fairly likely to be a zombie. I don't know for certain, but I'm willing to jump out there and join the bandwagon.

As for Warpe, I would bandwagon him just as fast. He's been uber suspicious as well.

I think Warpe's logic of "looking at the people who are so gung-ho on lynching me and rilla", is just so bogus. All the vets seem to be denying the fact that they are better recruits than other villagers. It's highly probable they will be recruited, so to say "look at the ones looking at us" seems like a last ditch effort to derail inevitable bandwagons.

So...

Lynch Rilla

I find it highly unlikely that I will be changing my vote for the remainder of this day.

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villager to me.

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Originally Posted by Pelion

Fuckit im calling

Lynch Rilla

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No idea, i dont think anyone's ever put any pressure on pelion.

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Originally Posted by bigred

let's get this monkey off our back

lynch rilla

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More bigred fun.

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Originally Posted by GatorJH

I'll jump on as well, but am VERY curious about why IA isn't getting any lynch love. He is also close to the top of my list.

lynch rilla

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villager imo

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Originally Posted by dranger7070

Lynch Rilla

Forgot to add this at the end of the last post and didn't want to edit the last one.

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And I think villager.


I think that's all. I'm dissappointed that I couldn't find a better link between the two lynch trains that just bigred. Since I think there was a lot of villager support for my lynching. XTR also voted for Warpe during my full on wagon and I flomo vote for bigred. So that's always a bad sign. Unless flomo was last night recruit. Total shrug.

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Originally Posted by XTR1000

please note I wanna lynch warpe to nail the bandwagoning zombies who voted before me. and lets be honest, hes posting a lot and a so called vet and whatnot, but the fact that neither warpe nor rilla have been a great help till now indicates that there MUST be something wrong with at least one of them

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If this was DD, jkds, warpe, stax, IA, gator or keith making this post it would tilt me. Luckily, it comes from the xtr, bigred, flomo, wilbur, kiwimark camp.

Maybe we should lynch warpe. I mean, he's still a great target and was 100% exposed last night. If we kill him first and he turns out to be a wolf, I get snap killed because I've publically linked us over and over again. I don't think it would be smart to couple the two of us if we were both wolves, but again, my epic levels destroy your minds.

But, he can't be the alpha wolf, and he won't lead to one. So we have to find a better target.

Thanks for the support rilla but the village has stopped listening. Apparently you have to pull a wolf out of your ass on the first night to maintain any credibility as a villager around here.

My vote is in. Do as you will, folks.

lynch flomo

lynch flomo

Ive prepared a L O N G post with posts quoted but its prepared on the basis of my interpretation of what IA has been saying /hinting about warpe. maybe we've had the discussion /info we needed and its going to be most helpful now if IA can confirm whether he looked up Warpe and found him a villager last night. If not this may just appear supposaition and guesswork.

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Originally Posted by bigred

Warpe and Rilla are on my radar, let's hear what the seer has to say

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Originally Posted by Instant Aces

I fail but Imma read through now and try to figure out what's up with the lookup I made. I may or may not say who I lookedup. I want the villagers to give me some input on if I should or not.

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so I'm making the assumption that he looked up either Warpe or Rilla and found a villager

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Originally Posted by bigred

Meh, if u found a villager I'd just try to protect him from any bandwagons by being persuasive, no need to reveal would could be next night's zombie.

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could be said from a wolf perspective as well , they know who the villagers are but the villagers are inthe dark , and this keeps us in the dark.

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Originally Posted by StillDeadMoney

My soulread:

Warpe and Rilla are BOTH wolves. How hard is that to understand.

Instant Aces looked at me and saw that I am a villager. SURPRISE!

Angel is probably only protecting themselves.

Vig is too scared to pull the trigger.

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Why on earth would IA look you up last night.Rilla and Warpe have been steering the village and their identity is now crucial. To be blunt theres a fair chance of getting a BW going on you at any time and if you are a wolf , you've probably been advised to keep your head down.

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Originally Posted by WillburForce

Right, this is all getting a bit silly. how are Warpe, Rilla and the like not lynched?

I think Warpe is leading us a on merry dance.

Lynch Warpe

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bit later on warpe and IA get the flomo BW rolling and

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Originally Posted by SDM

lynch flomo

Even though I'm pretty sure he's a villager, I would like to see a defense.

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big red pointed out this was silly but is it a wolf hiding on a wolf BW knowing that plans are in place to derail it?
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Originally Posted by DoanDiggy

I'm willing to BW flomo; I just think he's playing soooo much different this game from his usual, random self. But he's getting a lot of votes fast and I don't want the zombies (if he's not one) to be able to jump in and finish us off.

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hmmmm saying he'd vote but doesn't want to harm the village.......could just be a wolf trying not to get on the BW but not be seen as suspicious by not get on it.

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I think Warpe might be a wolf by now. Obviously IA was trying to set a trap with bigred, and Warpe jumped on it pretty quickly instead of going with his read on bigred.

If I had to guess, my list would be Warpe, Willbur, dranger, XTR1000, SDM. kiwiMark merits some investigation, and did anyone even realize that Pelion is playing this game? And if anyone (other than Warpe) is leveling, it could be JKDS.

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I think Warpe is too good a player to fall into any traps especially since JKDS posted some tips for IA to use today, and you are trying to point the finger at both of them.

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Originally Posted by DoanDiggy

If Warpe's not a zombie, I guess flomo is and SDM is not? Either way, Willbur and XTR1K make the most sense to me. And Willbur threw a Warpe vote out there, so maybe Warpe isn't one after all. I think the 5 zombies are in this new list:

Willbur
XTR1000
TLR
flomo
dranger
Pelion
kiwiMark

I don't know these players well enough to go through the thread again and see if I can find anything. Who would recruit such a group, and in what order? Is it consistent with evidence in the thread?

I'll go with CBC and lynch WillburForce. He hasn't gotten heat all game and I think he deserves it. (Obviously rescind dranger7070 for now.)

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hmmmm, you know my suspicions but I wouldn't be surprised if DD has put some wolves in this list just in case they do end up as lynched so tht he can say yeah , I'm a villager rather than the Alpha I think he is.

then we get to the really suspicious flurry of posts within 20 minutes . The heat is on flomo ...has a wolf post taken place saying that the wolves need to shift the heat onto someone else and warpe would be a good target.

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Originally Posted by bigred

let's just do what we all really want to do...

rescind penny

lynch warpe

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rescind whoever. penney?
lynch warpe

It's funny 'cause bigred said what we're all thinking, imo. I don't think I even need to write out a long post justifying this.....

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no because that then gives ammo for the village to use against you.

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Originally Posted by dranger7070

I'm game with a Warpe lynch. I would be down with either him or rilla lynch today tbh. The chances are too good that either him or rilla (or both) is a wolf at this point.

Lynch Warpe

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Rescind Wilbur
Lynch Warpe

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then the bandwagon stalls and warpe defends himself

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sigh. guys. lynching me would be big mistake.

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no one else is jumping on for a few hours and maybe the alpha feels he needs to give it a nudge to get it going again.

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I think lynching Warpe could be good. If he is a zombie, it implicates rilla, JKDS, and probably a few others (I'd have to go back through and check it out). If not, we definitely have to look at the quiet ones.

If we are reluctant to lynch Warpe because he is a good villager, well I just haven't seen that yet anyways. Obviously it sucks to get another villager, but we don't exactly have a good batting average here.

lynch Warpe

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Originally Posted by Warpe

sigh. guys. lynching me would be big mistake.

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QFT. I want to see A LOT more evidence as to why we're making this lynch. It's a pretty big day and I'd much rather lynch any of the 4 I listed earlier + bigred over warpe. I'm sticking with my lynch flomo cause I think thats way more +eV then a warpe lynch. [b]Please real villagers don't just hop on this BW[b] w/o going through and comparing flomo/Warpe. Flomo and the others I listed seems wayyyy more wolfy.

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This seems to me that IA is saying that he knows Warpe is telling the truth...How could that be . The only way is if he looked him up last night and it came back as a villager.
flomo then defends himself

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Originally Posted by flomo

lynching me, is lynching another villager and setting us back further in finding the wolves and winning the game.

We can not listen to Instant Aces, he has no clue as to what he is doing in this game. He wants to lynch another villager for no reason at all. Let him tell us when he finds a wolf and then we act accordingly.

Warpe has no soul reading abilities, so lets let that myth die.
He is most likely a wolf just hoping to get a quick day by pointing to me and hoping Instant Aces will keep up going after me for lno reason.

so other then the old wolfman fool and the clueless seer fool , can we come up with someone who is a wolf


lynch warpe

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not exactly a defence,more an attack on the people singling him out couple that with SEER effectively saying warpe is a villager and the insta bandwagon that developed and I feel that flomo is a wolf.

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As I said, no way that Warpe or Rilla are NOT wolves at this point.

Lynch Warpe.

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after the evidence that IA is saying that warpe was not a wolf you still jump on the bandwagon. We know you aren't very good at this game but this makes you look so much like a wolf.

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IA, you literally just gave us a red light to NOT lynch flomo in your last post. I just don't understand what information we gain even if he IS a wolf? Theres obv a super slim chance hes the Alpha, but thats unlikely. Whereas, with a warpe lynch, we gain a significant amount of information if he's a wolf or a villager. The clear choice should be a Warpe lynch for today.

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But IA is saying warpe is clear so what info are we gaining....combine that with you slamming the nail into badgers coffin when I had given the count and said I was holding off to let him post a proper defence and I'm thinking you are wolf.

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Originally Posted by TLR

I think Flomo or Willbur is a good lynch.
I still have a lot of suspection about Keith
Vig should shoot either Wrape or 'rilla IMO

I am quite surprised that JKDS is not getting mentioned at all as a possible wolf so far

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does what I've been accused of in the past hints and suggests but doesnt actually vote.Whats suspicious about me , I just keep pressing the case for someone who made a mistake that in the past has shown to be a wolf.Only people who are gonna be concerned aboiut this are the wolves. If I stop posting the DD case then it will appear that i've been turned. Far better for the wolves to head some suspicion my way to steer the village later on into lynching me.
Why shoot Warpe.....when he seems to have IA's approval. It feels like the wolves gameplan is/was to let the villagers take out rilla and warpe with lynches /shots while the wolves recruit the fringe players who arent saying enough to have their thoughts and observatuions contradicted when they get recruited.

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Originally Posted by XTR1000

lhsaghdihqwodhnqwnd warpe!

Why I think Warpe isn´t a wolf: I have been bolding his name a couple of times already AND on the last two pages I cast suspicion on me for whatever reason. I´d prob be a sweet bandwagon if warpe in fact was a zombie. However, I´m willing to sacrifice the old man, b/c there will very likely be more than one zombie amongst flomo, bigred, staxo, DD and dr anger if he´s innocent, if he´s a zombie we get can clear most of the above mentioned, get rid of a good opponent and can probably shoot rilla tonight.

warpe must go

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hmmmmm this could so be written by a wolf. If Warpe is a villager have the wolves now decided its best to recruit him tonight, geta bandwagon going on him tomorrow and when he comes up a wolf come back and say hey all these guys must be innocent.

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Originally Posted by Instant Aces

I'm really not comfortable letting rilla get shot 2nite, I'd rather shoot a TLR/XTR1k regardless of what flomo turns up as.

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ditto

btw, I will try to check in a couple of times today, but it will have to be on the Blackberry as I am off to my son's Lacrosse game then he and I are heading to Columbia to watch the Gators spanks South Carolina at 3:30.

Goooo Gators.

Between those two. I'd go with XTR every time as the vig.

alright Im gonna say only this one time that Im not a wolf. Given how this village has zero direction I can see why some wanna lynch or shoot me and thats fine. However, before you go ahead and waste a bullet on me go back and try to figure out what information you can get from killing me. I went a bit after badgers and I went after after Warpe from day idk two or so. I did this b/c Warpes posts just dont feel right to me, he´s successfully leading the village around in circles and until now its all lacking results other than we have outed the worst seer in the history of ww. It kinda sucks that some of my suspects are gunning for warpe now and the big bad gorilla defends him.

It's true that Warpe could be leveling me. He knows exactly what I'm looking for in posts. And to have me on your side is valuable.

Keith, I don't understand how you can gain that he looked up Rilla/Warpe last night and that he found a villager in one with the post that he made. Everyone has been telling him to NOT say if he found a villager or wolf, so why would he say he did? A likely scenario is he looked up flomo and found a wolf. Ok, cool, so we got one (fwiw I could totally see flomo being a wolf as well as warpe) BUT why the FUCK would we waste our lynch on flomo, if hes a CONFIRMED wolf? Hasn't the plan of attack always been to lynch the suspicious ones (i.e. Warpe, me (apparently), whoever) and then shoot the confirmed wolves? You're preaching at everyone to use their heads and stuff, well you on flomo's wagon need to use your's imo.

rescind Warpe

After rilla's posts I do like a flomo lynch better. I'm not going to put it in just yet because I think a long day would be good right now.

dranger: In this game, I think we're better off lynching confirmed wolves and shooting whoever because the alpha recruits before the vig shoots.

Wouldn't it make sense for spenda or BooG to be a wolf now? It seems like good strategy for the zombies to convert known villagers. I'm not saying he's worth a bandwagon (it would give us absolutely no information), but it's something to keep in mind for sure.

lynch flomo

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Originally Posted by XTR1000

lhsaghdihqwodhnqwnd warpe!

Why I think Warpe isn´t a wolf: I have been bolding his name a couple of times already AND on the last two pages I cast suspicion on me for whatever reason. I´d prob be a sweet bandwagon if warpe in fact was a zombie. However, I´m willing to sacrifice the old man, b/c there will very likely be more than one zombie amongst flomo, bigred, staxo, DD and dr anger if he´s innocent, if he´s a zombie we get can clear most of the above mentioned, get rid of a good opponent and can probably shoot rilla tonight.

warpe must go

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Silly zombies. So what you're trying to say is you and the rest of ur zombie friends(most are probably in the list you supplied) recruited warpe last night and are looking for a reason to shoot rilla so your going to sac warpe, get rilla shot and clear all your names from being a zombie or am I missing something here?

rescind flomo

loljaykay

lynch flomo

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This is the kind of post that makes me want to take everything the seer says with a grain of salt, rather than assume he's leading the village based on actual information, as opposed to random logic and possibly flawed deductions.

I also like that I got quoted about three times as saying "I don't think I need to provide justification, but I'm happy to provide justification if you need it, just sing out", but of course with the bold part either omitted or ignored, every time.

My problem with the flomo lynch is that it seems to come from the same places as the last three failed lynches, and while it was promised that all of these would give us so much information, the village still seems to be in a total mindfuck.
Now warpe mentioned something along the lines of "omg if you don't bag a wolf first night then you must be a wolf yourself", which isn't really what anyone's saying. Rather, if you're able to manipulate the village entirely to your will (and let's face it, I don't think there's any denying that rilla and warpe are capable of that), can stop seemingly any bandwagon in its tracks, have great insight and are an experienced player, and then lynch three wrong targets in a row, you start to come across as a pretty solid wolf recruit.

The defence thus far also seems to have been "Aha, of course YOU LOT would suspect us, you're WOLVES" which is of course genius since rilla's/warpe's word is law, and so somehow they don't need to say anything more than that. Maybe I'm making a complete fool of myself and I really am the sole villager on a bandwagon of wolves, as you're suggesting (well, obviously you're not suggesting I'm a villager, but you get what I mean), in which case that's pretty shitty for me and the village, but time and time again rilla and warpe have come away clean and a villager has been hung, I think they are the most pivotal players at this point, and - for me, at least, maybe you guys have already read through the lines and know everything - a lynch of warpe gives more information either way than does a flomo lynch. I'm not even saying he's innocent, ffs, just that the last three scapegoats have been.

Also, rilla, you said that Warpe was a confirmed villager, can you explain what you meant by that? I thought boog, spenda, and x had been looked up, where x is as yet still unknown? So I assume it was merely rhetoric on your part?

While rilla and Warpe may look like they have been agreeing with each other, it could be that they were at one point both villagers and either one of them turned into a wolf and is playing off the other, or they are both wolves.

I'm going to stick with my Warpe vote because the village has been consistently steered in the wrong direction by Warpe/rilla. I'm actually quite surprised a BW hasn't been formed against me by the wolves, because they see me as a "poor player" that is expendable since I'm not desirable as a wolf. Or maybe they know I'm the angel? Regardless, I think they're saving the "suspicious SDM" angle for later in the game when they are about to clinch a win.

Um, did u just out urself as the angel?

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Keith, I don't understand how you can gain that he looked up Rilla/Warpe last night and that he found a villager in one with the post that he made. Everyone has been telling him to NOT say if he found a villager or wolf, so why would he say he did? A likely scenario is he looked up flomo and found a wolf. Ok, cool, so we got one (fwiw I could totally see flomo being a wolf as well as warpe) BUT why the FUCK would we waste our lynch on flomo, if hes a CONFIRMED wolf? Hasn't the plan of attack always been to lynch the suspicious ones (i.e. Warpe, me (apparently), whoever) and then shoot the confirmed wolves? You're preaching at everyone to use their heads and stuff, well you on flomo's wagon need to use your's imo.

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so lets examine what IA was advised

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the vig has 2 bullets now, right? we gotta start identifying some targets.

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agreed

I also think there is merit to NOT revealing the lookup immediately. Let's get some discussion going and if it gets to a point where IA can reveal a name AND it leads to some clues then we reveal. At that point we lynch the "maybe" and Vig shoots the wolf.

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Meh, if u found a villager I'd just try to protect him from any bandwagons by being persuasive, no need to reveal would could be next night's zombie.

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[in this type of game, there is an immense need to hide those revealed. one strat i suggest

-if villager: stop his bandwagon before he dies, point fingers at ppl on that wagon. if nothing happens, keep it to yourself.
-if wolf: have a nice long day and see what he does. does he buddy up with ppl? ignore ppl, attack etc. if you find something, out him shoot him and lynch the suspect.

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look at the highlighted advice and then compare that to how IA has acted with regards to the warpe BW , he's tried to stop it and to suggest others. The fact that the wolfy suspects are piling in to try and get warpe speaks volumes

as for who to shoot

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The Alpha Zombie will be able to recruit villager N on night X if vigilante shoots alpha zombie on NIGHT X. Alpha zombie will not be able to recruit villager N on NIGHT X if vigilante targers villager N. If vigilante targets alpha zombie on NIGHT X who plans to recruit vigilante on NIGHT X, both will die.

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so alpha recruits unless its the angel or Vig he targets and then they both die before he gets shot, so if we think we have a wolf who's possiblythe alpha its better to lynch them and then if he comes back as a wolf target another possible wolf

And where exactly have i been preaching in this game that we need to use our brains? At least I am thinking , rather than slamming in half assed lynchings on people who turn out to be llagers without letting them defend themselves then laughing about it and saying I seem so wolfy now lol. (yeah thats because you are a wolf) .

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lynching me, is lynching another villager and setting us back further in finding the wolves and winning the game.

We can not listen to Instant Aces, he has no clue as to what he is doing in this game. He wants to lynch another villager for no reason at all. Let him tell us when he finds a wolf and then we act accordingly.

Warpe has no soul reading abilities, so lets let that myth die.
He is most likely a wolf just hoping to get a quick day by pointing to me and hoping Instant Aces will keep up going after me for lno reason.

so other then the old wolfman fool and the clueless seer fool , can we come up with someone who is a wolf


lynch warpe

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flomo, you've presented no logical defense here, just insults, which makes me think even more that you're wolfy. If IA had looked you up last night then you'd already be hanging, I think, but he seems to have a good read on you anyway and I share it. If we're wrong, we're wrong, but I don't think we are.

-largest village in the past 4-5 WW games
-lowest initial wolf count in past 4-5 WW games
-alpha game, much harder to find wolves using logic

its not obvious how people can miss a wolf 3 times in a row?

you guys are seriously oversetimating us. the flomo day 1 lynch in that other game was LUCK. this wasnt some epic soul read by the village, they stumbled on something and gambled. notice how in that game...WHERE THERE WAS A HIGHER W:V RATIO, the village missed hitting any of the other wolves until 5-6 days later.

like seriously, you people are claiming that not lynching warpe is faulty logic but ALL of you want to lynch him only based on him being a soulreader and not reading souls when its obviously incredibly more difficult in this game.

hows aboot you give him a fuckin chance to soul read and not join the warpe bandwagon that the wolves have been trying to finish since day fucking 1.

Do you really believe that a wolf would behave in this manner? Flailing about and acting like a tard? Like, REALLY?! I slammed it on badgers for the reasons I stated before. He was useless as a villager so theres no real loss if he's gone as hes been posting meaningless, misleading stuff, and there were plenty of others who agreed that he was a likely wolf target.

I see where you are coming from on the Warpe/flomo lynch thing, and I think it would be best if IA came out and said if he looked up flomo or Warpe (not necessarily who he looked up if its someone else) and if so, if he was a villager or a wolf. That alone will save a lot more confusion. If he comes out and says "flomo is a wolf" I'll obv change bw's, as I'm sure many others will as well. If he comes out and says "Warpe is a zombie" I would expect others to do the same.

Actually JKDS, I've been actively pushing an IA lynch from Day 1. Soul read for the wolves LOLAMIRITE? Too bad he outed himself one vote too soon. :(

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And where exactly have i been preaching in this game that we need to use our brains?

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Best defense one-liner in the history of WW?

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Actually JKDS, I've been actively pushing an IA lynch from Day 1. Soul read for the wolves LOLAMIRITE? Too bad he outed himself one vote too soon. :(

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excuse me?

You got more nerve endings in your guts!

Can we string up someone quiet then? There's a bunch of players lying very low letting us active people hang each other.

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Originally Posted by bigred

You got more nerve endings in your guts!

Can we string up someone quiet then? There's a bunch of players lying very low letting us active people hang each other.

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I THOUGHT YOU WERE MY ROCK. =(

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Originally Posted by bigred

You got more nerve endings in your guts!

Can we string up someone quiet then? There's a bunch of players lying very low letting us active people hang each other.

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how about your buddy flomo?

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Actually JKDS, I've been actively pushing an IA lynch from Day 1. Soul read for the wolves LOLAMIRITE? Too bad he outed himself one vote too soon. :(

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excuse me?

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You said the wolves have been trying to string up Warpe since Day 1, which seems false to me, and I was making a pretty obvious joke that I had been going after IA; obviously tying in that Keith is all horned up that I'm a wolf.

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Actually JKDS, I've been actively pushing an IA lynch from Day 1. Soul read for the wolves LOLAMIRITE? Too bad he outed himself one vote too soon. :(

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excuse me?

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You said the wolves have been trying to string up Warpe since Day 1, which seems false to me, and I was making a pretty obvious joke that I had been going after IA; obviously tying in that Keith is all horned up that I'm a wolf.

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JKDS was just all like "wait dranger's not one of my wolves I'm confused"

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Um, did u just out urself as the angel?

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think they know, lol. Outing yourself as the angel would be pretty dumb because the wolves would just avoid you and win. :?

This game is a clusterfuck.. I've lost quite a bit of interest.

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Or maybe they know I'm the angel?

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Um, did u just out urself as the angel?

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think they know, lol. Outing yourself as the angel would be pretty dumb because the wolves would just avoid you and win. :?

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HOW THE FUCK WOULD THEY KNOW!!!?!!!

lol wtf is happening here?

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Um, did u just out urself as the angel?

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think they know, lol. Outing yourself as the angel would be pretty dumb because the wolves would just avoid you and win. :?

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HOW THE FUCK WOULD THEY KNOW!!!?!!!

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that 'think they know' was not an abbreviated "I think the wolves know I am the angel" it was meant as a correction of statement "maybe the wolves know I'm the angel" -> "maybe the wolves think they know I'm the angel".

this is either a massive wolf level to try to out the real angel or the worst angel ever.

bout to take my gf out for dinner (she's takin forever to get ready) but here are some quick thoughts on today:

- 'rilla and Warpe - I feel these would be / have been pretty terrible recruitment candidates for our wolves. They're always at the center of attention and have to fend off lynches every single day. A good wolf strat would be to keep these two alive, in order to deflect suspicion from themselves. While this is probably more effective in a regular WW game, it's always in the interest of the wolves to allow difficult-to-read or otherwise suspicious villagers to go unrecruited.

Basically, we should avoid lynching these two for now. I'd put them at about 80% village likelihood each at this juncture.

- SDM. I have no idea wtf he is pulling right now.. Though, given his 'accidental' revealing of his protection candidates last game, which turned out to be a level against the wolves, I am thinking he wrote what he did deliberately. So, if we assume he's likely not the real angel, what motivation does he have to lie about it? He could be a wolf trying to out the real angel. Or he could be just trying to avoid being recruited - which would be odd, since he's said before that "part of him" wants to join the wolf side.

Or not. It could have just been a mistake as he said. Really, I have no idea what to make of it.


I'm pretty much up for following Warpe / 'rilla's rationale for today though. Did either of em pick out a candidate for today? I'll have to re-read a bit.

SDM, I can see no benefit to the village whatsoever in you outing yourself as the angel. If you are, in fact, the angel, the only way we can get the alpha now is by lynch or vig shot. WTF were you thinking?

Wow this is a mess. IA, dranger and SDM are all confusing the hell out of me. Actually after the last couple of pages I wouldnt mind a dranger lynch if flomo turns out to be a wolf. And I would have said SDM too but... fubar.

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Actually JKDS, I've been actively pushing an IA lynch from Day 1. Soul read for the wolves LOLAMIRITE? Too bad he outed himself one vote too soon. :(

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Wrong thread postaments? Why is this post getting no mention?

Also, I'm pretty sure SDM is not the angel.

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Actually JKDS, I've been actively pushing an IA lynch from Day 1. Soul read for the wolves LOLAMIRITE? Too bad he outed himself one vote too soon. :(

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Wrong thread postaments? Why is this post getting no mention?

Also, I'm pretty sure SDM is not the angel.

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oh wow, can it be that simple?

dranger said it was a joke, but yeah, weird.

SDM is the Special Olympics Angel.

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Actually JKDS, I've been actively pushing an IA lynch from Day 1. Soul read for the wolves LOLAMIRITE? Too bad he outed himself one vote too soon. :(

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Wrong thread postaments? Why is this post getting no mention?

Also, I'm pretty sure SDM is not the angel.

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oh wow, can it be that simple?

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omfg it would make sense since dranger is on a lot of ppls wolves list and the last game I read JKDS leveled the village super hard(Even though he may have been only been recently recruited). If this holds any water we should lynch flomo and shoot dranger?

if the seer was converted would triplolz post that we lost our seer or would it look like he is still a villager?


shouldn't we lynch dranger and shoot JKDS if this holds water?