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Some prominent MI6 dude is claiming they knew weeks ago that a contract had been put on Prigozhin from within the Russian "business community". Of course it's a former head of a secretive government organisation speaking publicly, so take that for what it's worth.Quote:
Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey
That's not intelligence, that's common sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
Gravestones of Wagner's dead are being removed from gravesites, and gravesites of Wagner dead are being cemented over.
... but Prigohyn's plane being "shot down" was an "accident."
I'd be surprised if there's a single person on the planet who believes that was an accident.
Whether Putin ordered it is another matter. Prigozhin had many powerful enemies and this would have been a good time to take him out while having it look like Putin did it. So it's not a given that Putin ordered it. But still, probably.
Definitely not an accident though.
Oops. Probably should have checked his record before giving him a standing o.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b2418001.html
We'll just keeping saying Ukraine doesn't have a problem with Nazi ideology. Someone just didn't do their due diligence, nothing to see here.
I fail to see how such a person can end up in a parliament, being called a "hero" and getting a standing ovation, without the person who invited him there and addressing him with such praise knowing who he actually is.
"Hey guys, check out this hero guy, no idea why he's a hero but let's all give him the respect of parliament". Nah, not buying it.
I certainly believe there were a ton of people applauding him that didn't know his history. It's embarrassing for Canada and others. But it's more than just an embarrassment for Ukraine. It's a problem.
Reading ong's reply before the link, I expected someone from Azov got appointed to Ukrainian gov't. Read the link and got an actual WWII Nazi stood up in front of the Canadian gov't. and cheered for.
Pleasantly disappointed I think is my response. My original guess was far more worrisome.
Biggest embarrassment is for whoever actually was involved that got that guy on that stage. One more fucking question was all that was needed.
This Ukrainian-Canadian guy fought in WWII. Should we stand him up as a war hero for an easy PR stunt?
He fought in WWII you say... for which side?
One fucking question.
SMH
lazy
I assume (just guessing) that no one else in the room actually knew who that was aside from what they were told on the spot.
I would hope not.Quote:
Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey
In my more tinfoil-hat moments, I might suspect this was a plan to undermine support for UA. The war's dragging on now with no end in sight, and more than a few countries are starting to reconsider whether they want to keep sending aid to Ukraine. I think Poland's already said they were going to cut off the tap. So, maybe Trudeau thought "here's a good way to create an excuse for us bailing as well."
Then again, it's probably more likely someone in the civil service just fucked up when they were asked to find a Ukrainian war hero.
Did Poland say that?
That explains why Biden was kissing Poland's ass so hard the other day. Something like, we're the bestest friends ever and I'm gonna give Poland a bunch of millions of USD dollars to replace their military stuffs 'cause we're besties like that. Like we've always been. Forever.
There's only a vocal minority of US politicians who are against funding the war in Ukraine. Old money politicians in both parties remember the cold war and know how much value we're getting for our money in this. No US lives at risk, and still making Russia look like they are trying to figure out what a war is for the first time in history.
It appears so.Quote:
Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...xports-dispute
What an argument. They're drowning and seeking help from anyone, so fuck them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Poopadoop
Nevermind the flood that is drowning them will be on your doorstep if they sink.
WTF.
Putin's Russia is not going to go away if they manage to steal a bunch of land successfully. Fuck, it's not going away if this plan fails. Putin will go away sooner or later, but the political and economic system he inherited and bolstered will not go away.
C'mon Duda. You're talking doodoo.
got 'im
Poland is cutting aid because they're spending large amounts of money on defence. Poland knows it is vulnerable due to its geography. I know the days are gone where large armies march across open plains but what we're seeing in Ukraine is a war of attrition, and geography plays an important role even today.
Russia is highly unlikely to invade Poland, due to the fact Poland is a NATO member, but if Russia ever gets to the point where they think "fuck NATO" and go balls deep, Poland is the first to get bogged down in a land war.
Also, that article makes clear that Poland has already donated what it can and this statement is "largely rhetoric", probably intended for Polish people.
It's easy to be critical of Poland but they're not as wealthy as the likes of USA and UK, and they took in the vast majority of Ukrainian refugees, which comes at significant economic cost. And given their Soviet history, you can't blame them for being concerned about Russia to the point they want to increase defence spending.
If Russia do decide to invade NATO territory, the Baltic states (Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania) will capitulate quickly. That won't even be particularly bloody, save for some brave but futile resistance. Poland is where it gets messy.
It won't happen though. To invade Poland, or the Baltics, is to declare war on NATO. I don't see how Russia can hope to win a war against NATO. All it can do is end the world as we know it if they want to be remembered as the worst regime in history, worse even than the Nazis.