i remember this working well in the 3rd grade, but haven't read the book or picked up anyone in 10 years so idk.Quote:
Originally Posted by griffey24
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i remember this working well in the 3rd grade, but haven't read the book or picked up anyone in 10 years so idk.Quote:
Originally Posted by griffey24
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Originally Posted by sil693
It's a pretty well known book, and it's pretty decent. Entertaining at least!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Game_(book_on_Pickup_Artists)
Ok a little update on the past week.
I have played probably 1200 total hands of poker. I'm like 3 buyins up on this computer and not sure about the other one though I know I am down something. I'm actually playing really well but I haven't been able to play much because I have been super busy this past week. Soooo let's talk about that instead:
First of all, I got Monday off of school but other than that I had a huge exam I studied for. I'm not positive but I think I did ok on it. I really really hope to get a B on it. Last thing I'll talk about school is that there were 4 robberies last night and 1 happened literally at a block away when I was outside walking. I have had basically all my friends tell me about being jumped and the other night I caught some dude sneaking up out of a really small alley. I will be completely surprised if I graduate without being jumped. Enough of that.
I have been texting/calling the girl from VA Tech a lot. It seems to be going well. But there's a twist. It finally snowed like crazy last sunday night and I got to play a lot in it especially with...the girl I truly truly like. We had a snowball fight with a big group and basically her and her best friend just targeted me and my roommate. This caused everyone else's interest to go away and they all left and it was just us 4. We hung out for a little bit and it went well. The next day her best friend then asked me if we could all 4 hang out again so of course we said yes. We decided to go sledding and had a really interesting/fun adventure. We wanted to make smores at the end but 711 was the only place open and they didn't have anything soooo boom they say let's do it tomorrow night! So of course we say yes and again I think that night went pretty well. We took a day off but then I texted the girl I liked if we could hang out before she left to FL for spring break. She said she was leaving at 3pm the next day so it didn't look promising. But boom, her and her friend said they had 11am-1pm free so I skipped class and obviously hung out. I also think that went pretty well but overall there wasn't really any too flirty stuff nor touchy stuff which kind of sucks but there was obviously some little touching. What sucks is she leaves to FL for spring break so now after all this she will be gone for a week. My roommate gets any girl he wants and I obviously think he can/will get with her best friend (who's super hot) and I am praying I have a chance with this girl. What's also is confusing is the VA Tech girl is going to be home like Tues or Wed and we are supposed to hang out and her friends = the girl I truly truly like's friends so I don't know if people are talking about me or what. Pretty confusing.
I am spending this weekend with my brother (who's gf literally almost just died to a drunk driver wtf) and we are going to go out and party and go to the CAA tournament to see VCU dominate. Should be pretty fun.
Everyone watch the VCU/George Mason bball game tonight at 7 EST on ESPN2. I've been on TV the past 2 games a lot as me and my friends go extra crazy so look out for me and watch VCU tear it up (hopefully). I'll be sporting a new mohawk in honor of one of our players.
Thursday I am hanging out with VA Tech girl and she is sleeping over yay.
Dont sweat it man go after whichever girl you actually like. On a side note you live like 30 mins away from me haha.
Bahhhhhh it's tough man there's a lot to it. If anything at all were to ever go wrong with the girl I truly like that would mean it'd be awkward all the time as her brothers, cousins, friends are like my best friends. One of my friends is going to talk to her about me in a non-obvious way so I'll get more info. on this deal soon. I was going to just ship the VA Tech girl but then this morning gave me hope with the girl I truly like again so it's an endless cycle.
You go to William and Mary?
I hear ya. No sir not in school ATM working on getting into the Aprrentice School at the Shipyard. I work full time at the moment selling auto parts at Napa.
Nice man, very good luck! Hang out with CTS sometime imo.
Ok so two things:
1. Check out this http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...90.html#850890 to see me and my friends after winning the CAA championship
2. I play BIGRED in the first round of the HU tournament. I will post interesting HH and all that stuff after it's over. We are playing tonight and not sure what time yet and not sure what site but I guess I will edit this because I think some people want to rail. I will be using no HUD.
Whats CTS my good sir?
Cole South. Extremely good poker player who loves in Williamsburg as well
Alright so played bigred last night and lost. I felt like we both played pretty well for the most part. I won't get into many details but I think I def. played some hands poorly but I do not have any HH. Not to sound like a whiner but I know I had a bunch of huge draws and missed every single time (over 10 outs on the flop). I do not think I ever had a FD hit once and had to bluff my way a lot. The turning point was definitely when bigred c/rai on a TTKX two toned board on the turn when I had a T and he had the FD and hit on the river, which was basically for all 400bb chips. I lost and was left wtih 66 chips. He ended up winning 2-1 when my AJ < KK. Gl bigred and I hope you don't think I think you luckboxed, you deserved it!
Tomorrow I have a prop bet with this girl haha but I won't go into details with that either so gl me.
lol yesssssssssQuote:
Originally Posted by kmind
all-in baby!
Well, I have to get back my buy-in for the HU tournament somehow :)
Interesting, most of the time a prop bet with a girl is one you intend to lose...
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Originally Posted by kmind
WTF is this? ^^^
Ok quickish update:
Wed. night I played in my first live cash poker game. My brother texted me that a few people from his work play poker regularly and they were going to have a cash game with a $20 buyin. I insta said ok and after his work we left to meet up with all of them. Everyone was very nice. They were also really terrible at poker. I only had $20 cash on me because actually my brother said it was a $20 tournament which kind of sucked so I only had one buyin. Also we didn't have many chips so the blinds were .50/.50 which extra sucks unless you're andy-akb. I go down early and my brother goes up a lot. I then almost triple up when I have 22 and everyone limps and I check in the BB. Let me first say that I was losing because I had AK twice and raised 6xBB and still got 2 callers both times, losing once to Q4o and once to another hand similar but I can't recall it. Anyways flop comes Q24. Gets checked to UTG who's a big bluffer and he bets out a few bucks. There's a caller and then my brother raises. I just flat, the bluffer gets out, other caller calls again. Turn is a blank, I check, other person checks and my brother fires out again. I just call given that my stack is soooo shallow and I want to get two stacks. The other caller folds. River is a blank and I just open shove and my brother has to call. I felt really really bad. After that I won maybe one other pot when I semi-bluffed and then another huge pot against my brother where I was drinking a bit and started calling a lot and called his preflop raise with QJo. He had a semi small stack and shoved the T98 rainbow flop :( . This brought me to over even again and probably around $30. One guy who was horrible kept getting lucky and then won a pot vs. me by hitting a 3 outter on the river. That was a huge hit to my stack. It was getting late and my brother (my ride) was out and I got 42o in the BB. I check behind. Flop comes A35. I check and the bad player who won that last pot against me starts firing out. He showed his cards every hand and was very aggressive and showed a tonnnn of bluffs. I elect to just flat him. He has me covered and I had about $16 or so to start off with. By the way, when they were betting they bet like 5x pot and stuff so at this point I was at less than a pot sized bet somehow (maybe someone else called, I can't remember). Anyways, turn brings an A and he insta shoves and I insta call. I ask if he has a boat and he goes "A3" which confused me because at first I thought he would just reply with a "yes" if he had it, so now I am scrambling to look at the board to see my heart broken. I'm out. On a better note there was a hot girl that lived there that I graduated with and we started chatting. She's a huge slut but wants to hang out. I'll pass because she really is extremely slutty. But back to the guys, apparently one of the guy's dad has tournaments every Fri. for $35 and like 30 people show up every week. I really think it'd be +EV for me to play but I doubt my brother would play so I will have to befriend these guys.
Anyways, back to Thursday (yesterday). The girl comes over at 11:30am and we insta watch "Summer School" and cuddle until like 2 when her friend picks her up to get a piercing. She says she wants to come back right after so she does around 4. I had to leave at like 6:30 to play in a basketball game so I wanted to use this 2.5 hours to make a move before I knew I would have to do it drunk since there is a big party that night. Well, short story short, she kind of keeps her head down at all times and I get tilted and we don't kiss. One of our friends gets pissed off at me when she picks her up. My roommate is also really pissed off at me because he came home to see me and her cuddling and thought we had obviously at least kissed. I go to my game (we win by 25) and get back around 9 and her and our friends have to go somewhere before the party which is fine because I have to shower. One of our friends tells me she has news on our situation as well as news on the girl I really really like. I finally get to the party and go talk to my friend and she tells me how the VA Tech girl wanted me to kiss her and I'm an idiot blah blah and then goes on to say that the other girl I really really like has always thought I was hot and would, in her words, "date me in a heartbeat" but she's still trying to get over her ex of 4 years or so. I completely understand and to be honest I don't really like her, I am just more interested in her if that makes sense. I get back to the action we start playing beer pong. There's a ton of people signed up and I am hoping that I can win because I'd face...VA Tech girl AND the other girl I am interested in. Yep, they signed up together. Sweet. Well, we win our game and face them. It goes pretty well but is kind of awkward. We dominate. We continue to dominate for the next literally 10 or 11 games. At this point we have our own fanbase. I am started to get upset because this is causing me not to talk to VA Tech girl. I say "We retire!" but my roommate/partner says F that and we play again. It gets down to 1 cup to 1 cup. They hit their cup and my roommate misses. It's up to me. We have the crowd around us chanting my name haha. I shoot...in and out :). Yep, that's a good sign. I end up having a good time and have fun with VA Tech girl at the party for awhile. There's also a really weird girl there I want to talk about but I won't because I am tired. But anyways, my friend (girl) says "ok so you kissed her now right". I say no. She goes ok f this I will kiss her before you. She succeeds. I get pissed at myself and ask VA Tech girl if she is ready to go back to my place. We head back and I notice my roommate isn't there and he sleeps in our neighbors bed a lot but it's comfortable so that's cool. I get on the computer for some really random reason I can't even remember and she insta sits on my lap. I'm like yayyy here we go and then boom she goes let's play the mixed CD I got you. It's in the other room so I have to get out of the chair and bring it back in. This time, she doesn't sit in my lap. Sweeeeet. She wants me to play a certain song and I can't find it and then finally I do. She's looking down at this point but fuck it I just go in for it and boooooom. She stops kissing for a little and goes "you know, Stacey got to me first". Another low blow. But that's fine, we continue to make out for like an hour. She's a virgin so I'm not expecting anything at all, which is obviously fine I really don't care at all and completely understand. We finally go to sleep and awake to the construction right outside my house that has been going on for over a year now. She's not used to it so it wakes her up. We finally go back to sleep until like 1pm. We wake up, talk some then make out some more. Her friend picks her up at like 2 and we kiss goodbye. It went really well and she's a really cool girl. We will hang out Saturday but it's going to be weird because she lives hours away and it will be the last time I see her for awhile I'm sure and I'm not really sure what's going on now. Should be interesting to see. I'll probably post some pics. I feel really really weird giving out all these details and am so scared that someone will get ahold of this blog that knows me and show everyone else. VA Tech girl does know I play poker for my "living" and she's literally the only one besides my family that knows. Not even my best friend. So hopefully she doesn't get in a google mode and somehow find this.
As for poker, I have played probably 1700 hands this month and am up like $200. Mostly at 50NL. I actually feel really solid with my game right now. I'm up like a half buyin in EV it says too which is cool.
WOOOOOOT!!!! Kmind you dog!!! BOOM HEADSHOT imo. Good work dude, way to man up and do it. That does blow that she lives a few hours away, but if its worth it definitely stick it out. You obviously like this chick if you are writing this much about her to complete strangers lol. (well SOME strangers I guess)
Nice work on the pokers, and good luck to you sir.
nh sir.
lol?Quote:
Originally Posted by kmind
you kissed a girl and you liked it
I just read the whole post. Quick my ass
but nh, sir. nonetheless :P
thanks guys trip report to follow i jhung out with ehr ntday i got lost on the way but it's ok she found me h erfamily was nice to me
Ok so Friday night I mapquest the girl's house and am dumbfounded to see she lives "2hrs 19minutes" away. I literally thought she lived 20 minutes away. Anyways, I text her to see if this was true and then felt more dumb as I think she probably told me about this before I just am bad with my memory. So she says well you don't have to come but of course I want to see her and I get prepared to wake up earlier the next day.
Ok so here comes yesterday. I leave at a decent time. I follow the directions for about 2 hours and then when I am semi-near her place the directions start making little sense (I suck at directions) and then I kind of guessed where to go. This lead me to her high school which was obviously a good sign. However, I was still lost. I called her and she was like "uhh my high school is actually 20 miles away" so I said f it how do I get there? She tried giving me directions but they seemed a little confusing since it was a lot of back roads so I said I'd just keep trying. I drove for like 30 minutes and then wound back up at her high school and asked if she could pick me up haha. I felt/still feel like an ass but she was cool with it and started apologizing herself. She picks me up, we head over to her work which is a bakery and she buys me a delicious cookie. We then head over to blockbuster and I finally get to pay and we get Milk and Role Models. We then proceed to drive around her town and all I can notice is how awesome of a town she lives in and how friendly every single person I encountered was and she reassured me that this wasn't just a random day but it's always very friendly. We arrive at her house and I am in awe. I have no idea how much land she lives on because I couldn't see it all. She lives on a farm and her land goes on and on and in the background there were mountains. It was a rainy day yet everything was beautiful. A complete difference to the downtown Richmond scene.
I meet her parents who are super nice as well as her twin brother who is a lot scarier than I first imagined. All went well there, I think. We head to her basement and start Milk. Her other brother comes down and I have my arm around her and insta-push it off but she kind of reassures me it's fine and he seems really nice so I just say f it. He leaves and we start watching the movie. I won't really go into detail about the movie but it was pretty good but a lot of guys kissing each other which is kind of uncomfortable for me. We had a few makeout sessions which was very nice. We then proceeded to start Role Models but we just kind of made out for 20 minutes instead and got hungry. We then decided to go out to a diner which was awesome. The food wasn't the greatest but it was like less than $7 total for the both of us. She tried to pay again but I am sly. We had a great convo during all this and was really glad I got to know her more. We kind of know it's our goodbyes so she drives around the town for a little and shows me some stuff as we talk. I really really envy her town. It makes me think, though, if I lived there maybe the beauty would fade? So maybe I should just be a regular visitor. Anyways, she drops me off to my car and I follow her to her house as it's easier to get home starting from her place. We hug and kiss goodbye and she asks when she'll see me again and I say when do you want to blah blah and she says soon I get excited inside but try to act cool you know how it goes and she says she wants to hang not this weekend as she has a wedding but the next one. I agree to it. By the way, at this point my phone battery is dead so going home is iffy. She offers for me to stay over but I can kind of see her being reluctant to ask for some reason so I decline nicely. Long story short, I get home in good time and I got "lost" once at the very end but I ended up taking a road that probably lead to me getting home faster so all is good. I call her to say I'm home safely and we say goodnight.
To my surprise, my roommate, downstairs neighbor and old friend who I haven't seen in awhile are awaiting me. My old friend is the craziest kid you'll ever meet and I'm always a little nervous to hang out with him. He asks the inevitable question: "So casey, you drinking yet?" I open up a Miller Lite and say yessir. He's in shock. He probably has 10 or so PBRs down at this point. He demands we go to this one party, a bar or my friends' house who he doesn't really know. The one party turns out they didn't want him to go (because of how crazy he gets haha) and then I'm scared to go to the bar because his goal is to just get me plastered. I quietly insist we go to my friends' who has bought a keg each night for the past week. My roommate and friend want to obv. get with girls but there weren't really any single ones there so they are getting mad and want to go to a bar and I'm still nervous. I finally agree and we head out to a bar right behind my place. It's last call so I cross my fingers for some reason they just won't serve us. Keep in mind I've already started drinking a tad but I'm still new to this so I'm sure I can't keep up with the others. Well, the bartender is more than happy to give us shots. We take a shot of Tequila, Jameson, and a Jagerbomb. I don't really feel anything TOO much at this point. When we head back to my place it kicks in. I don't really know what my friends are saying and I start yelling stuff randomly as the room is spinning for some reason. They want to look at something on the computer so I oblige. I try to start talking but can't make it and just kind of pass out on the bed. My friends wake me up and leave and I say thanks for buying my shots and goodnight. I then am like, wait I've never been this drunk and I don't believe people who are drunk and can't write right at FTR. So I try to type honestly. I end up backspacing a ton but can't really make it and try to hit submit as fast as possible so I can just sleep. I semi-remember posting but completely forgot what I said and it doesn't make sense so I apologize. I also texted my brother, the girl and one of my friends. I woke up to seeing a lot of "what?" texts so I'm sure what I said didn't make sense. I wake up at 10:30 and am still spinning so I just go back to bed until 1. I now feel alright.
School starts tomorrow again which sucks so much. Even though I didn't do much this spring break as far as traveling I have to say it was a success. Selection Sunday is tonight and I have a $5 bet that VCU will be an 11th seed as my friend says a 12 seed. Griff texted me yesterday and is having fun in London which I completely jealous about. Alex is there as well as others.
Here's some poker hands that I lost. I played 300 hands today ended down a half buyin but EV wise I was basically even. I think I played 2 hands really poorly in 3bet pots.
In this hand I think I should have raised less preflop and probably just c/f flop. I have no reads but a 5xbb raise interested me as he had an ironman icon too. I just think he's never folding on the flop and he's raising a bunch but in the hand I was like ahhhh I don't want to c/f and get bluffed but I think it just has to be done:
Full Tilt Poker Game #11155214626: Table Kennet (6 max) - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 15:15:53 ET - 2009/03/15
Seat 1: LineWooD1 ($58.90)
Seat 2: savicevic10 ($138.15)
Seat 3: SuitsUs ($50)
Seat 4: cknight82 ($52.25)
Seat 5: stefdinho ($54.90)
Seat 6: lfc33 ($22.80)
savicevic10 posts the small blind of $0.25
SuitsUs posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SuitsUs [Ad Ks]
cknight82 raises to $2.50
stefdinho has 15 seconds left to act
stefdinho folds
lfc33 folds
LineWooD1 calls $2.50
savicevic10 folds
SuitsUs has 15 seconds left to act
SuitsUs raises to $8
cknight82 calls $5.50
LineWooD1 folds
*** FLOP *** [4s 6d 3d]
SuitsUs has 15 seconds left to act
SuitsUs bets $11
cknight82 raises to $44.25, and is all in
SuitsUs has 15 seconds left to act
SuitsUs has requested TIME
SuitsUs adds $19
SuitsUs folds
Uncalled bet of $33.25 returned to cknight82
cknight82 mucks
cknight82 wins the pot ($38.75)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $40.75 | Rake $2
Board: [4s 6d 3d]
Seat 1: LineWooD1 (button) folded before the Flop
Seat 2: savicevic10 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 3: SuitsUs (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 4: cknight82 collected ($38.75), mucked
Seat 5: stefdinho didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: lfc33 didn't bet (folded)
This hand is a bit different. Villain seemed pretty loose from stats so far 37/24. Not really sure if I like the bet or not. I think it's not as bad as I thought:
Full Tilt Poker Game #11155683326: Table Ellsworth (6 max) - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 15:42:05 ET - 2009/03/15
Seat 1: erol_erfurt ($31.40)
Seat 2: alwhy2Aze ($50)
Seat 3: inTR4NCE ($45.55)
Seat 4: DETAILINGDAN ($26.95)
Seat 5: GOLDRUSH80 ($48.80)
Seat 6: SuitsUs ($50)
SuitsUs posts the small blind of $0.25
erol_erfurt posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SuitsUs [Ks Ah]
inTR4NCE has 15 seconds left to act
inTR4NCE raises to $1.50
DETAILINGDAN folds
GOLDRUSH80 folds
SuitsUs raises to $5
erol_erfurt folds
inTR4NCE calls $3.50
*** FLOP *** [6h Js 3d]
SuitsUs has 15 seconds left to act
SuitsUs bets $7
inTR4NCE raises to $40.55, and is all in
SuitsUs adds $12
SuitsUs folds
Uncalled bet of $33.55 returned to inTR4NCE
inTR4NCE mucks
inTR4NCE wins the pot ($23.30)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $24.50 | Rake $1.20
Board: [6h Js 3d]
Seat 1: erol_erfurt (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 2: alwhy2Aze is sitting out
Seat 3: inTR4NCE collected ($23.30), mucked
Seat 4: DETAILINGDAN didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: GOLDRUSH80 (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: SuitsUs (small blind) folded on the Flop
Here's me messing up:
Full Tilt Poker Game #11155314835: Table Lingo (6 max) - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 15:21:27 ET - 2009/03/15
Seat 1: SuitsUs ($53.45)
Seat 2: xxANYWAY ($63.65)
Seat 3: alarue ($16.90)
Seat 4: Vova54 ($15)
Seat 5: KingTut01 ($12.90)
Seat 6: howie5 ($15.50)
alarue posts the small blind of $0.25
Vova54 posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SuitsUs [7c 7d]
KingTut01 calls $0.50
howie5 calls $0.50
SuitsUs raises to $2.75
xxANYWAY calls $2.75
alarue calls $2.50
Vova54 folds
KingTut01 calls $2.25
howie5 calls $2.25
*** FLOP *** [5s 3d Kd]
alarue bets $14.15, and is all in
KingTut01 folds
howie5 folds
SuitsUs has 15 seconds left to act
SuitsUs has requested TIME
SuitsUs calls $14.15
xxANYWAY folds
alarue shows [Td Kh]
SuitsUs shows [7c 7d]
*** TURN *** [5s 3d Kd] [4h]
*** RIVER *** [5s 3d Kd 4h] [Ts]
alarue shows two pair, Kings and Tens
SuitsUs shows a pair of Sevens
alarue wins the pot ($40.45) with two pair, Kings and Tens
SuitsUs adds $13.45
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $42.55 | Rake $2.10
Board: [5s 3d Kd 4h Ts]
Seat 1: SuitsUs showed [7c 7d] and lost with a pair of Sevens
Seat 2: xxANYWAY (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 3: alarue (small blind) showed [Td Kh] and won ($40.45) with two pair, Kings and Tens
Seat 4: Vova54 (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: KingTut01 folded on the Flop
Seat 6: howie5 folded on the Flop
do you ever get into a rhythm playing these short sessions?
First two are spots I dont like. I've taken to c/f'ing a lot without a specific reason/read not to. It really sucks being OOP here, but only other option is to flat. Definately interested in thoughts on it.
squeeze size is way too small in hand 1. Thats a good 3bet size IN position, but you're OOP and its a squeeze. $10 to go since he raised 5bbs to start.
Meh....I seem to start out hot and then lose as time goes on for some reason. Probably just in my head but this is why I usually do a bunch of quick sessions.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigspenda73
this is in your head. trust me, i used to do the exact same thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by kmind
fwiw i now play ~1000 hands sessions and it feels like i always start out down a BI or 2 and try to win it back. Still in my head, but i know where the feeling comes from.
Thanks guys, I used your advice and played a lot of hands the past 2 days. Well, a lot for me (2k). I ended up 2.5 buyins but should be around 5 with EV. Oh well...I feel like I am playing very solidly and am making spot on reads and really trusting my gut. I am falling victim to a few "hero calls" to make sure my read was right and lost (meaning I was right) which is really making me realize how much more I would be up if I trusted myself. I never trust myself with anything but I am learning.
As for life, I am driving up to Philly to see my VCU Rams play UCLA. I'm really nervous but regardless it should be a toooon of fun. I won some lottery thing at my school giving me a really good ticket price and 2 of my friends won too so we are driving up there tomorrow at 2:30 (5 hour drive) and then coming home after the game (starts at 9:50) so that will be kind of crazy. If we win then yeah I am staying up there.
I hung out with the one girl I "really like" last night and that went pretty well yet I think it's just a lost cause which is a sigh/fine. We somewhat flirted but I think she's just not ready. As for the Tech girl, I got kind of drunk and embarrassed myself with her last night with texting but all is good. She is actually trying to travel to my place Saturday night which I hope works out because I easily want to see her and her making this effort to see me makes me feel good.
Great news on the girl Casey!
I made a post a month or two back about calling for information. I felt if I could see what they had, that note would be worth a lot (and it often is worthwhile having), but both DaGoat and Griffey told me off for it and told me to get my information by letting other people call.
So VCU lost and had a chance to win on a last second shot :( . It was a lot of fun though regardless of driving 6 hours there (with traffic), watching the game for 2 hours and then driving 5 hours back and finally sleeping at 6am. Me and my 2 friends were like the only ones really going crazy and we all wore black paint on our bodies/faces. It was pretty fun but we had to paint ourselves in my car on the way there so some paint is on the seats and I still have yet to clean that up.
VA Tech girl surprisingly was able to take her roommate's car this weekend and visit me for all Sat. Because of this my Friday went a little differently than planned. I went to my friend's bday party and I haven't seen like any of these people in a long time and they all seemed really happy to see me, esp. now that I drink? Anyways, an ex and girl I "talked" to last year (who has like a huge black/football player bf) were there and they actually were all over me all night. The ex has a new bf but was all over me instead, making her bf jealous. I tried to play it off but she wanted to talk privately and stuff but I knew that would be bad news. Then the girl I used to talk to kept bringing me to her room and like kept kissing my neck and stuff and then repeatedly told me she broke up with her boyfriend and for me to stay the night with her. I kindly avoided this knowing I don't want to f things up with VA Tech girl. My friends were pissed at me for this and told me to throw my morals out of the window but I couldn't. Anyways, I also started talking to some girl who later told me she was a stripper and she seemed to be digging me and said "hold on, I'll be right back" and I just walked away to avoid her. There's a tad bit more to the story but basically I just made sure to go home empty handed.
So Sat. comes along and she gets in town around 6 and texts me. We decide to go out for dinner. Apparently our mutual friends think this is our "first date" or whatever and decide it'd be cute for a group of them to visit us at dinner unexpectedly. They also sit directly next to us. Very awkward but I just laughed. We both sat with them after we were done and her girl friends were like "so we're going to blah blah blah are you coming with us or what?" and she responded with "well, I think I'm going wherever Casey goes" in a good way. Instasmile. Her twin brother is also in town but decides to hang out with other people...whew. So we head out to some parties and we seem to have a lot of fun regardless that the parties were kind of lame. We head back to my place and she stays over. We make out a lot blah blah but we also get in a good discussion about our past and past relationships and stuff. I am encouraged when she says she really never does "random hookups" (besides one time with someone I know which really succccks because he's creepy). Anyways, we wake up make out blah blah and she tells me she has a really good time. We pick up her brother and I'm scared to kiss her goodbye but I told her this so when we pick him up and then they drop me back off she says she'll walk me to the door. We get our kisses and she asks if I'd visit her this weekend. I accept knowing it's a 4 hour drive. Her roommate is gone all weekend too she says which is cool. Since she's left we've had good texts or whatever and I'm officially just liking her now. This is also pissing my roommate off because he's finally single and just wants to go out with me looking for girls.
As for poker, I have been messing with RangeStove. Google it if you haven't heard of it but it gives you equity with every hand vs. certain ranges. It's kind of allowing me to see what I should call with in certain preflop spots as well as forming 3-betting ranges, both for value and as bluffs. I lost like 3 buyins recently but was playing really really well, forcing my opponents to make big mistakes and then suckout so I can't really complain. Today I am up over 4 buyins, though only up 1.5 buyins in EV. I really only had one suckout with JJ > KK vs. a 50bb stack. The rest were coinflips and I just won all of them.
Guess who hasnt been on msn for the last week or more?
YOU!!
Ahhhhh BEN! I'm going to write a report about my last week soon but basically poker just isn't cutting it for me though I'm doing ok at it. I'll post results and some more summaries of the gal/life/poker/etc
Ok so here goes. I'll post my poker stuff first so if you don't want to read about my other stuff in my life you can stop.
I barely played any poker this month due to just being somewhat frustrated with it/busy with other stuff. The only reason I am frustrated with it is that I keep trying to plug leaks/change stuff and it's just getting ridiculous as I should be able to get the very basics down. Some topics that I want to work out and don't really know where to start are basically preflop ranges such as 3-betting/3-bet calling/4-betting and what exactly should I be calling with preflop, specifically my ranges (flatting/3betting/etc) vs. stealers. I should probably make a nice long post on my thoughts about it as I have a ton. Anyways, at the end of the month I decided to play strictly 100NL because I'm sick of just staying at 50NL and my roll is beyond good enough even with withdrawing a ton. I'm also thinking about padding my roll by playing more FR unless the 6max games are good. At FullTilt, it amazes me how tight/reg infested the tables are at 6max for 100NL. This leads me to either want to play 50NL 6max or 100NL FR. Anyways, this graph does not include losing $100 to the HU FTR tourney, $75 in rakeback, and then another 200 hands on another computer for $50. I ran like $70 over EV which is obviously very nice and I am extremely happy and content with that I won't lie.
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/6984/marchfinal2.png
Let's talk about the other stuff now. I have been slacking in two major areas. 1. Getting on AIM/MSN. I want to stop this but my life just seems a lot more busier now and I find myself off my computer (wtf?!) a loooot more than in the past. This means school + other activities. 2. School. Yeah I have been busy with it but I really don't attend lectures anymore unless I absolutely have to. This is bad because 2 of my classes take attendance randomly yet I just, for some reason, don't go. This needs to stop.
Last Thursday my church basketball team won our division championship tournament and got this sweet trophy. I felt good because I was able to make a key steal and layup when the game was tied at the end. This sounds completely like a brag which I hate. Everyone else on the team did really well too. We then played a championship game Friday against the other division which consists of players dunking a lot/former D1 players/etc. We were completely mismatched and undersized and only had 6 players. The gym was also a lot bigger. We trailed by only 8 at halftime and ended up losing by 24. That seems horrible but I was actually pleased with our effort. On Saturday and Sunday I visited Lauren (VA Tech girl). Saturday we ate lunch with her and her friend, watched Animal House, had dinner with her and a mutual friend and then "pregamed" for a party. I also have to mention I saw a few people there, 2 who I was never really friends with in high school and they pretended to be interested in what I was doing. I appreciate the politeness but cut that shit. Another group I was happier to see as I used to hang out with them some. But yeah we pregame in her friend's room before some party. We miss the bus and then finally get there. The only drink they have is a mixture of lemonade, natty light and rum. Gross. But I drank it anyways. I got pretty drunk and "embarrassed" the crap out of Lauren but made her friends laughed and I really didn't care. Lauren also didn't really care she thought it was funny (I think). We get on the bus back home and everyone is drunk and the whole bus starts a VA Tech chant. I insta chant V-C-U! V-C-U! V-C-U! Some gross drunk girl isn't having any of that and bitches out of me. I understand why but it was like way out of line. Anyways, while laying in bed we have a good talk and things go well with that. Wake up late, get some lunch and then I head out. It was a lot of fun and she wants me back next (this) weekend and I bend over accept the whip and say "of course!". What's better though is she was worried her roommate was going to have her fuck buddy there so it'd be awkward, (but she still wanted me there) so she found a ride with a random person to come here Saturday and leave early Sunday. Also, my roommate and her friend are starting to talk and not sure how it's going but if it works out with them then this whole situation should be good...obv. until something bad happens.
As for April, I'm not really sure what I want out of it. Maybe get back on track with priorities such as school and eating/drinking healthier. Again, not going to post a certain amount of hands but I just want to keep me afloat again but at 100NL instead of 50NL. Once I get 100NL down again I'll be very pumped. The major 3-betting is still messing up my confidence as I feel so lost when really I shouldn't. I mean last year I was beating the games. Blah, oh well. I'm also nearing asking Lauren out officially. And by nearing, this weekend might be it. We talk a ton daily and we've talked about how we like each other/long distance isn't an issue/other stuff dealing with this soooo...
I'm down like 4 buyins in 500 hands or less at 100NL. I literally cannot beat this game. Why is this?i hit the top of everyone's ranges everytime
fuck that 5 buyins in 400 hands. i seriously want to withdraw everything. every fucking try
edit: ok so do i keep playing with 37 buyins or do i move down? i withdraw like $600 a month and i barely play
Post some hands. Put a whole bunch up on weaktight if you like.
Thanks, Ben probably will in the morning. I just can't believe I am down over 10 buyins at 100NL this year.
I also want to give a huge shoutout to certain people for all they have given me. I appreciate it so fucking much. You should know who you are.
Also video's please!
6max is so frigging swingy that it's sometimes very hard to keep playing!
Yup, Ben's last suggestion is very good. Do a video so that we can have a look.
dude, check sillystring's post in the march results thread. Swings vs your edge in the game you play.
And volume in April
and enjoy that girl/being a b.ball superstar!!!
Thanks guys. It's getting fucking worse though
Full Tilt Poker Game #11485523716: Table SABUR0 (6 max) - $0.50/$1 - No Limit Hold'em - 13:15:31 ET - 2009/04/03
Seat 1: SuitsUs ($105)
Seat 2: imeanttoo ($65.70)
Seat 4: pez gordo ($156.20)
Seat 5: get off me dawg ($100)
Seat 6: filsdupatron ($115.35)
pez gordo posts the small blind of $0.50
get off me dawg posts the big blind of $1
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SuitsUs [Qh Td]
filsdupatron folds
SuitsUs raises to $3.50
imeanttoo folds
pez gordo calls $3
get off me dawg adds $1
get off me dawg folds
*** FLOP *** [Th Qs 3h]
pez gordo checks
SuitsUs bets $6
pez gordo raises to $19
SuitsUs has 15 seconds left to act
SuitsUs has requested TIME
SuitsUs raises to $44
pez gordo raises to $140
SuitsUs calls $57.50, and is all in
pez gordo shows [3d 3s]
SuitsUs shows [Qh Td]
Uncalled bet of $38.50 returned to pez gordo
*** TURN *** [Th Qs 3h] [Js]
*** RIVER *** [Th Qs 3h Js] [5s]
pez gordo shows three of a kind, Threes
SuitsUs shows two pair, Queens and Tens
pez gordo wins the pot ($208) with three of a kind, Threes
SuitsUs adds $100
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $211 | Rake $3
Board: [Th Qs 3h Js 5s]
Seat 1: SuitsUs showed [Qh Td] and lost with two pair, Queens and Tens
Seat 2: imeanttoo (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: pez gordo (small blind) showed [3d 3s] and won ($208) with three of a kind, Threes
Seat 5: get off me dawg (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 6: filsdupatron didn't bet (folded)
Full Tilt Poker Game #11485661220: Table SABUR0 (6 max) - $0.50/$1 - No Limit Hold'em - 13:26:32 ET - 2009/04/03
Seat 1: SuitsUs ($105.10)
Seat 5: get off me dawg ($102.50)
SuitsUs posts the small blind of $0.50
get off me dawg posts the big blind of $1
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SuitsUs [As Ad]
SuitsUs raises to $3
get off me dawg calls $2
*** FLOP *** [Js 5d Td]
get off me dawg checks
SuitsUs bets $4
get off me dawg calls $4
*** TURN *** [Js 5d Td] [Ts]
get off me dawg checks
SuitsUs bets $10
get off me dawg raises to $28
SuitsUs has 15 seconds left to act
SuitsUs calls $18
*** RIVER *** [Js 5d Td Ts] [3h]
get off me dawg has 15 seconds left to act
get off me dawg bets $38
SuitsUs calls $38
*** SHOW DOWN ***
get off me dawg shows [Tc Ah] three of a kind, Tens
SuitsUs mucks
get off me dawg wins the pot ($145.50) with three of a kind, Tens
SuitsUs adds $67.90
get off me dawg is sitting out
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $146 | Rake $0.50
Board: [Js 5d Td Ts 3h]
Seat 1: SuitsUs (small blind) mucked [As Ad] - two pair, Aces and Tens
Seat 5: get off me dawg (big blind) showed [Tc Ah] and won ($145.50) with three of a kind, Tens
River is a fold in last one. First ones close, but theres boards so wet I think you played it right.
Why you playing HU? Tell me table only just broke down!
1st ones std
2nd one fold turn, and fold river
Table just broke up, Ben. As for hand 2, I literally cannot win a hand to save my life so I have to keep them honest...amirite?! fml
I want to force myself to take a lot more time analyzing hands and hopefully post them in my blog to make sure I am doing it right. I also want to get somewhat better with stoxev (maybe) and write articles on my thoughts on certain concepts so you guys can rip them apart. I also want to create some videos.
Do you guys think I should stick to 100NL for a little bit with 37 buyins or should I move down to where I feel more comfortable?
Thanks again guys. There's so many fucking insanely nice people on here. Much love FTR.
Looked for you this morning to see if we could try some sweating. You should look to do that as well as some videos.
Tough call on the BRM Casey. My inclination is to give yourself a 30 buyin movedown point, but this is your living. Your call. Keep trying to hop on msn through the weekend, we'll at min chat, hopefully get a sweat session in.
I want to fill you in on my last week but still busy/it's 3:45am and we just had a party at our place.
Short version: I have a girlfriend now since last Sunday. Yay. Though I say stupid shit to her sometimes that needs to stop or else she won't continue it I'm sure.
Also, I am thinking differently again about poker and vow to play this way for my next 10k hands and see how it goes unless it really starts going shitty. I'm also going to only accept an Internal Locus of Control and never check my EV in HEM until the end of the month.
Yey for GF, hopefully yey for poker thinking. Lets catch up about it on MSN!
Thank you! Up 3.5 buyins in just over my first 1k hands. Can't say if I am running poorly or not because I won't look at my EV until the end of the month.
I really want to play more again and go back to my healthier ways as I have really gone downhill since Feb.
Sigh I had to look at my EV today in my quick before I go to bed session to keep sane. I'm running horribly of course :(. Even though I finished down $65 I'm up $25 in EV so that's ok I guess. I really think I played some hands poorly too so wanted to make sure that even with my mistakes I was still playing profitable poker and didn't tilt too badly.
This hand was against a TAG playing like 20/18 but was verrrry aggressive on flops and almost always checked turns. I thought he couldn't rep. really anything so my 88 was possibly good. When the A hits on the river I go ahead and bluff as I think his now 99/TT auto muck. I thought for sure I would win this hand no matter what by betting.
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
MP ($20.35)
Hero (CO) ($63.30)
Button ($10.60)
SB ($88.20)
BB ($45.55)
UTG ($47.35)
Preflop: Hero is CO with 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif
2 folds, Hero bets $1.75, 1 fold, SB calls $1.50, 1 fold
Flop: ($4) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $2, SB raises to $7, Hero calls $5
Turn: ($18) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks
River: ($18) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $12, SB raises to $33, Hero folds
Total pot: $42 | Rake: $2.10
oh yeah was up over 6 buyins in the past two days which is really encouraging. I'd assume I'm up a good amount with EV adjusted. I'm basically looking at reads more and trying to exploit postflop tendencies, which can be adjusted preflop too. I'm also finding good spots to 3bet bluff/4bet bluff too.
lol, f'ked if I know what he has. Who the heck check raises flop and checks turn only to c/r river? Some kind of weird 67 is the only thing I can think of unless he's just over the moon in love with c/r'ing his monsters and it doesnt occur to him to actually bet the turn with his set.
Heh I know! I put him squarely on 666 but still that's tough to do. Should have just called and seen wtf he had but he raised river semi fast.
Tbh, I think the bet on the river was bad. 99/TT is such a small part of his range, I'd take the free showdown. Your 8s could be good, but he doesnt fold many better or call with many worse. I think you tried to overthink the situation there.
I dont think it does a great job of representing the ace either, after you checked the turn. Its definately in your range, but not the only hand.
Holy... why are you betting that river?? Just check back 100%... it's not like he's folding Jx too often anyhow.
oh and also... not sure how I missed this...
running hot in life > running bad in poker!Quote:
Originally Posted by kmind
I just don't see how he would play a Jx that way by raising the flop and I don't see him calling preflop with 76, Ben. I'm not saying I am happy with my play but these were/are just my thoughts.
And thanks Griff! Hopefully variance doesn't set in when I ask my parents about my potential plans this summer.
None of his play makes sense, but neither does betting that river.
Hey pal, glad to see you're still at it. I'm thinking about getting back into it myself.
gl
I don't know dude.. I think lots of ppl c/r JT-AJ type hands for protection.. and now check the turn A since they are afraid.. but will prob c/c riv.Quote:
Originally Posted by kmind
FWIW I've been doing more of the exploiting their tendencies as opposed to really balancing my ranges/representing too much because these guys just don't give a shit.
Thomas - wtffffff what's up man? Def. come back! You can do the comic site plus poker imo...
But enough about that hand, I agree with you guys. I just thought by betting it allowed for the rare times he has 99/TT to fold but yeah it's bad.
Anyways, tried to grind back up from last night but lost a few at first and then went up 5 buyins in my last 200 hands. I ran really really sick hot. Didn't suck out, just hit sets and made a huge call in a 350bb HU pot (biggest of my 50NL career I think at least) so that was fun. I am up over 7 buyins in my past like 2.5k hands maybe? Me likey my new style. I started 8 tabling but that was too much for me, I need to cool it and stay at 6. I suggest reading some strat articles on this site. I understand things a lot better.
Niiice.
Now get on msn so we can chat about all this stuff you're doing ;).
check river behind. You are not representing much either
someone who has learnt that c-r flop lead turn is an incredibly strong line that will result in many folds. FWIW, that makes c-r flop lead turn a great bluff line vs some regs - be careful thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by bjsaust
Whilst that might make sense, its kind of silly. The whole point of a c/r for value is to build a big pot, so why then miss an entire street of betting? Let alone potentially miss 2.
Hahaha. The comics were horrible. It didn't quite pan out.Quote:
Originally Posted by kmind
I'm a bit lost right now. All I know is that I still have about 1.3k in my Stars account. I might have a little bit in FTP, but I'll have to check. To transfer funds, I think I was using ePass? I don't know if that site exists anymore. I had purchased copies for both PokerTracker 2 and Hold Em Manager, but I'm on a new computer now. I'm not sure if there's any way of getting them back. Did HEM have a HUD? Was I even using a HUD last year? Lord, my memory is terrible. On top of it all, I'm probably rusty as hell, and I think I was a loser at 50nl to begin with. I'll probably have to reeducate myself at 25nl for a while.
In short, there's a lot to sort out before getting back on my feet. If you ever get a spare minute, hit me up on MSN or AIM. I thought you'd be crushing 400nl by now. :P
Yeah man wish I could just run less bad. I'm not great but for fuck's sake I'll be damned if I shouldn't have a shit ton more money with EV. Fuck this game. Enjoy the swings.
I made some mistakes today but not many imo and get shat on constantly. Down 4 buyins again in EV JUST on this computer. I know at my other one I'm down a ton there too. Yep I broke my "don't look at my EV until the end of the month" rule. Would have SWORN there was an "it all evens out in the long run" rule. Well, fuck time to play 10 million hands.
edit: I won't delete the previous stuff but come on man when can I catch a break? Now I am of course doubting the new way I'm trying to play. Fuck man, I can't get this shit right EVER. Everyone who I talk to who I haven't in awhile ask "wait what the fuck you are still at 50NL?!" Fuck this. I'm not cut out for this game I'm starting to believe. Been playing way too long. Fuck one session can fuck with your mind. I'm playing 10k more hands like my new way of thinking and if I'm fucking up then fuck me.
Maybe just not check results in HEM at all for the rest of the month? Literally just start the import running then minimise it. Never even click on the Cash tab.
New styles been working for you. Up 7, down 4, still leaves you up 3. You've been consistantly beating 50nl. Even when you're running below EV and getting pooped on, you're still churning out positive months at it. 100nl, bleh, we'll work on that, but keep in mind you're a winning player.
Thanks a lot Ben. The thing with not looking at my Cash tab is that I have to withdraw every other week anyways so I always am looking at my cashier anyways :(Quote:
Originally Posted by bjsaust
Yeah, cant avoid that, but you're not monitoring it as closely.
http://www.holdemmanager.net
NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Full Tilt Game#11726887732
lionne_34 ($29.15)
MarcelProust ($44.30)
15tribefan ($27.10)
SuitsUs ($71.30)
buffybegood ($62.95)
itisabadmonk ($3.50)
lionne_34 posts (SB) $0.25
MarcelProust posts (BB) $0.50
Dealt to SuitsUs As Kh
15tribefan calls $0.50
SuitsUs raises to $2.25
fold, fold,
MarcelProust raises to $5
fold,
SuitsUs raises to $13
MarcelProust calls $8
FLOP ($26.75) Jh 2c Ks
MarcelProust bets $31.30
SuitsUs calls $31.30
TURN ($89.35) Jh 2c Ks 6d
RIVER ($89.35) Jh 2c Ks 6d Tc
MarcelProust shows Ad Qh
(Flop 16.9%, Turn 9.1%)
SuitsUs shows As Kh
(Flop 83.1%, Turn 90.9%)
MarcelProust wins $86.35
I don't really care too much right now...I like that. Really thinking about ranges lately. Hopefully will write a post maybe early next week on my thoughts
scratch that I'm tilting like crazy hahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhahahahah
fuck you lock the thread fuck this shit i guarantee you this isn't supposed to happen not just allin pots but jesus christ no way do they show up wtih flushes here every fucking time
whoa wtf i just made 2 buyins at 100NL!!!!!!!
in 2 hands...thanks carl!
anytime!
lol, story time!
Bad naughty kmind!!
:( ...never again! So tilted though.
50nl HH....
and $100 flips....
hmmm.... BR management?? :)
I'll smack you in vegas :P
Btw, I hope you know this, and I know its hard, but when you're this tilted, please dont play :(. Go get some exercise or something.Quote:
Originally Posted by kmind
BR management ftw grifffff!
ben - I like to play late late (like 3am late) because that's when I get a lot of fish and that's when I'm free so can't really exercise and can only sleep but when shit like that happens I can't sleep either.
Well, do something else. Watch a vid or something.
Btw, I really do think you should be doing a vid and sharing with a few of us.
I plan on at least writing a pretty big article sometime this week. Basically, I am finally starting to understand certain concepts, have talked to the creator of said concepts, yet am still not producing results thought I admit to some tilt/bad play on my part. I just want to make suer my line of thinking is correct because everything seems to make a lot more sense.
Since I know what you're talking about, I think its worth talking about how to apply those concepts to the games we play. Either msn or maybe I'll put some thoughts together myself.
Completely agree which is in fact why I am going to decide to write it. I think some concepts can only apply to higher limits but most of them can apply to like 50NL and below...probably more 200NL below but I have never played at 200NL so only going by others how it plays similary to 100NL. I just think some of the stuff has been overlooked by most who have read it. Basically, I am hoping to come up with an article on how to play early streets in micro/small stakes games.
Yeah, you know I really think I should have phrased it differently. Its not a matter of applying them to the games we play, its a matter of making adjustments for certain types of villains, we just happen to run into more of them in our games. Sounds like a good plan though, you write it up and we can review it.
This shit is ridiculous haha. My EV doesn't do justice at all when I get hands like this:
Full Tilt Poker Game #11791164117: Table Coolidge (6 max) - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 20:29:43 ET - 2009/04/20
Seat 1: SuitsUs ($50)
Seat 2: papanorth ($32.70)
Seat 3: Ibelive ($87)
Seat 4: nulcheck ($64.60)
Seat 5: En El Banco ($50.45)
Seat 6: JimDMay ($37.60)
JimDMay posts the small blind of $0.25
SuitsUs posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SuitsUs [Ks Ah]
papanorth raises to $1
Ibelive folds
nulcheck folds
papanorth: nh
En El Banco raises to $4
JimDMay folds
SuitsUs calls $3.50
papanorth calls $3
*** FLOP *** [5s Tc Kd]
SuitsUs checks
papanorth bets $12.25
En El Banco has 15 seconds left to act
JimDMay: TY
En El Banco adds $3.55
En El Banco folds
SuitsUs calls $12.25
*** TURN *** [5s Tc Kd] [Qh]
SuitsUs checks
papanorth bets $16.45, and is all in
SuitsUs calls $16.45
papanorth shows [As Jh]
SuitsUs shows [Ks Ah]
*** RIVER *** [5s Tc Kd Qh] [3d]
papanorth shows a straight, Ace high
SuitsUs shows a pair of Kings
papanorth wins the pot ($66.65) with a straight, Ace high
SuitsUs adds $32.70
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $69.65 | Rake $3
Board: [5s Tc Kd Qh 3d]
Seat 1: SuitsUs (big blind) showed [Ks Ah] and lost with a pair of Kings
Seat 2: papanorth showed [As Jh] and won ($66.65) with a straight, Ace high
Seat 3: Ibelive didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: nulcheck didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: En El Banco (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 6: JimDMay (small blind) folded before the Flop
Down 4 buyins today and finished up 5 yesterday. The funny part is that I admit to SOME bad play for sure but the coolers are endless. My style is dominating.
Sounds like you're still winning overall?
Less posting beats/coolers more posting interesting hands!
And videos.
And getting sweated.
And do that article you mentioned.
If you're not going to cold 4bet pre, then definitely definitely shove flop. There isn't enough behind to just be flatting anyhow.
Griff - that's the thing, at these stakes you see people bet/folding with ridiculous odds which is why I just flatted. I'm basically pricing myself in when I know I can get his stack easier.
ok at the same time... at those stakes aren't ppl calling shoves with draws.. withOUT the correct odds?.. in which case we should shove....? hmmmQuote:
Originally Posted by kmind
I think flatting here is just some form of FPS really... also when he's donking way too many draws like QJ/AJ/J9 etc are possible here.. which I doubt they are folding on flop.
Hmm, I missed that, I thought it was the PFR who bet flop, not the guy who called the three bet donking. I go with Griff in that case, get your TP in.
ummm.... get it in whoever it is!... I don't care if its the dealer who decided to make a bet... still get it in :P Fold If I'm betting though.. cause I always got the nutssQuote:
Originally Posted by bjsaust
I figure the PFR is more likely to have a weaker hand he'll shove turn (or river) with, but would fold to a shove. I've seen some crazy b/f plays with a lot less behind than this. Obv shoving flop is fine but I dont think calling is a particularly bad mistake.
Once the other guy shows interest in the hand though its an easy shove on flop.
All I'm doing there is allowing myself to get his stack 100% of the time as opposed to the chances he folds to my raise on the flop. I see this happen a lot in my games. I wasn't really trying to get feedback on it. I also elected to flat pre to keep the bad player in. I had reads.
Anyways, down another 1.5 buyin in about 30 hands. AK < AA yay.
Booo, and get on msn!
Imo, you should DEF c/r that flop with AK given stacks. You don't want him to pot control a hand like KJ or QJ on turn since you're OOP thru all the hand, which hes stacking on flop anyway... I'm positive he would have called ur shove with AT/AJ u dont think?
I don't really see how its close either, the assumptions would have to be wayy to extreme and unlikely. But u had a sick read :)
Better luck in ur next sesh though, and see u in Vegas maybe??
I hope to God. I'm asking my parents this week as it's my birthday week.
I just played live poker again against idiots. I got 1 from the money with AA < TT on a T63tt flop to guys who go apeshit with bottom pair. I cannot win for the life of me.
haha waiting till your bday week.. sneaky sneaky!Quote:
Originally Posted by kmind
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NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Full Tilt Game#11824867100
montecalvok ($70.65)
dirtydorker ($62.80)
Slyfoxed ($57.25)
lololisuck ($126)
SuitsUs ($50.60)
drpavee ($50)
montecalvok posts (SB) $0.25
dirtydorker posts (BB) $0.50
Dealt to SuitsUs 7c 7h
Slyfoxed raises to $1.50
fold,
SuitsUs calls $1.50
fold,
montecalvok calls $1.25
dirtydorker calls $1
FLOP ($6) 5h 7d Jc
check, check,
Slyfoxed bets $4
SuitsUs calls $4
montecalvok calls $4
dirtydorker folds
TURN ($18) 5h 7d Jc 4h
montecalvok bets $28
Slyfoxed folds
SuitsUs raises to $45.10
montecalvok calls $17.10
Villain is a donk but not many hands to tell how aggro he is. The way I'm running I hate to see the 4 on the turn. Should I raise flop?