Randomness thread, part two.

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Originally Posted by boost

If there are kids involved, I'd play nice for xmas I think. That or just don't go and do your own thing with your kids. I think family relationships are overrated and therefore people force themselves to be around people they genuinely don't like.

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"the kids" you speak of are me and my sister (she's 25). we can't really do our own thing, I mean I guess we could but we're not going to do that. long story I won't put you through but my sister and I have a good relationship.

my mom is with a terrible person yet they're having Xmas dinner with like fifteen people over...person my mom is with has been a huge dick to my sister the last week, even today Xmas eve, gonna be interesting tomorrow. I have already told Kate (my wife for others reading) that we will bounce the first sign of un-easyness and we will have Xmas on our own, with my sister and her boyfriend (I'm assuming they'd leave too).

Yay for me! New HP comp:

AMD Phenom ll X6 six core processor
8GB RAM
1TB HD
25" Monitor

The things I'll do to be able to load the lolpics thread.

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Originally Posted by Warpe

Yay for me! New HP comp:

AMD Phenom ll X6 six core processor
8GB RAM
1TB HD
25" Monitor

The things I'll do to be able to load the lolpics thread.

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This increased my anticipation for the next lol pics thread by 10x.

i have a request from one of the mods:

there is a hand history i am looking for but can't seem to find anywhere (i don't know the hand number). i believe it is in the old randomness thread which is in the trash bin.

the hand goes something like this: dealt AA, flop AA6 or something, turn is a broadway completing a flush, lots of bets and raising going on (villain has A-high flush), river brings the royal card. should be 2/4 NL for a ~$1000 pot or something. please post the hand in this thread, ty

please don't unbin the actual thread though, there's far more personal information in there than i'm comfortable with.

just search for, dealt to lukieplaya

I vaguely remember this hand. This disturbs me for some reason.

my fingers smell like barbeque sauce. I'm going to go wash my hands.

Homemade or store bought?

I've been buying Sweet Baby Rays for a few months

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Originally Posted by bigspenda73

Homemade or store bought?

I've been buying Sweet Baby Rays for a few months

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Actually just went to a bar/bbq spot with friends. 4.50 all you can eat bbq wings.

But ya, I am not really a fan of bottled bbq sauce ftmp. If I'm going to eat bbq sauce I normally prefer the thin, hot, vinegary kind over the thick, sweet, tomatoey kind. For what it is though, sweet baby rays is not bad though.

p.s. Now my hands smell of bbq sauce and soap.

mmm.....BBQ

Christmas night went well with the dysfunctional side of my family. Everyone played it cool. Almost too cool, as it was a really good time. I still feel that things are brewing for that side of the family, though, so we'll see how it shakes out over the next few days/weeks/months.

Kiddo has been rocking it asleep since 10pm, so almost three hours. I would have taken three hours straight of sleep for just about anything in the world the past three weeks or so. Little dude is so hungry, and has his days/nights flipped like most babies. That said, I'm awake right now....wtf.

Actually the wtf is this, my in-laws came over to hold and love the baby tonight. we ordered mexican food in, drank some beer and wine. I had literally three beers but then decided to pour ONE rum and coke.....caffeine at 9pm sounded ok considering little dude hasn't slept until midnight or 1am on most nights. low and behold he sleeps from 10pm-1am straight, still going. eh, live and learn.

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._4615876_n.jpg

my school played duke, 0-12 etc

That win gave Coach K his 880th career win, good for #2 all-time.

glad your xmas went well, george

lukie, i remember that hand too, but unlike boost, i am not disturbed

There's something like 2400 posts in that thread and 49 pages. I got to page 10 and gave up.

My FTR search skills aren't working today, this ain't it is it?

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Originally Posted by Lukie

goddamnit lee. fucking doom switch.

PokerStars Game #4686228175: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2006/04/20 - 12:55:26 (ET)
Table 'Nikko' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: GLrebel01 ($254.45 in chips)
Seat 2: gizmomel ($323.70 in chips)
Seat 3: Scipio10 ($525.45 in chips)
Seat 4: Lukieplaya ($234.45 in chips)
Seat 5: kanlaya ($301.30 in chips)
Seat 7: racenut ($67.80 in chips)
Seat 8: 666 Higgi ($86.85 in chips)
Seat 9: lobojiji ($180.60 in chips)
kanlaya: posts small blind $1
racenut: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Lukieplaya [Ad As]
666 Higgi: calls $2
lobojiji: folds
GLrebel01: folds
gizmomel: folds
Scipio10: folds
Lukieplaya: raises $8 to $10
kanlaya: calls $9
racenut: folds
666 Higgi: folds
*** FLOP *** [9c Ac 9h]
kanlaya: checks
Lukieplaya: bets $15
kanlaya: raises $25 to $40
Lukieplaya: calls $25
*** TURN *** [9c Ac 9h] [9s]
kanlaya: bets $54
Lukieplaya: calls $54
*** RIVER *** [9c Ac 9h 9s] [Qc]
kanlaya: bets $148
Lukieplaya said, "if u have the 9 i'm just giong to cry, nh"
Lukieplaya: calls $130.45 and is all-in
*** SHOW DOWN ***
kanlaya: shows [9d 8d] (four of a kind, Nines)
Lukieplaya: mucks hand
kanlaya collected $469.90 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $472.90 | Rake $3
Board [9c Ac 9h 9s Qc]
Seat 1: GLrebel01 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: gizmomel folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Scipio10 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Lukieplaya (button) mucked [Ad As]
Seat 5: kanlaya (small blind) showed [9d 8d] and won ($469.90) with four of a kind, Nines
Seat 7: racenut (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: 666 Higgi folded before Flop
Seat 9: lobojiji folded before Flop (didn't bet)

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I searched a ton of ways in the thread but got nothing, sans a bunch of brutal beats. It may be in another thread or the tilt forum.

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Originally Posted by spoonitnow

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._4615876_n.jpg

my school played duke, 0-12 etc

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But how much did Duke lose?

hey jyms, that's not it, but thanks to you and warpe for looking.

oddly enough, i now vividly remember that hand as well. in fairness i have also had some epic suckouts too. i remember runner runner perfecting a straight flush with something like 64s against someone's quads, and i might have done it another time with QJs on a KKx board against quad kings all-in on the flop (3-bet pot)

basically, i used to play way too many tables at a time and saw a lot of really absurd shit happen.

which brings me to another point that is fair to make since i've been playing the last couple months. sometimes you get a hand where you have some sort of subconcious feeling where you know you are beat and where it would be unexplainable in writing against people not playing it. in those situations i'm convinced that it's far better to go with the gut feeling. that's going dangerously down the 'play by feel' route that gets dramatized by hollywood and the non-poker-playing public, but it's hard to explain.

going through my old workout log from last summer (i.e. the only one i've ever kept), and some of the numbers are a little depressing. i've nearly caught up in some (mostly benching and rowing type) but have a long way to go on most of the lower body stuff. Chins/overhead presses are about halfway between.

anyway the pages are set up like day___, date____, time____, cardio today (exercise+duration) then there's a big chart with exercises/set+reps then notes below.

so i flip to a random page and see cardio today: banged - long time

it gave me a good chuckle

/random

Worth it.

http://pics.kuvaton.com/bshit/cold_war.jpg

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Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla

Worth it.

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Lies!

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Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla

Worth it.

http://pics.kuvaton.com/bshit/cold_war.jpg

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Indeed, that would be pretty kick ass to show in class.

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Originally Posted by BennyLaRue

Lies!

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yeah you lost a lotta trust on this one

King Europe - Scandinavia and the World

Worth it.

The interesting thing is that Europe's more advanced culture is a partly a product of US military protectionism

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Originally Posted by wufwugy

The interesting thing is that Europe's more advanced culture is a partly a product of US military protectionism

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Seriously, if it weren't for America beating down Britain, we'd all be speaking English right now.

YouTube - The Necronomicon

"If knowing the unknowable is crazy, I don't want to be sane."
"Heh... it's heavy."
"Yeah, with forbidden knowledge."

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Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla

Worth it.

http://pics.kuvaton.com/bshit/cold_war.jpg

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The best part was Canada in frame 4.

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Robert John Burck (born December 23, 1970), better known as the Naked Cowboy, is an American street performer whose pitch is on New York City's Times Square.[1][2] He wears only cowboy boots, a hat, and briefs, with a guitar strategically placed to give the illusion of nudity.
On October 6, 2010, Burck formally announced that he is running for President of the United States in the 2012 U.S. election as a candidate representing the U.S. Tea Party movement.

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wat

Dick Winters died. That guy was awesome.

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Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer

wat

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haha, yeah that last part about running for president through me for a loopo

i used to date a calvin klein model in NY (thinly veiled brag). i, of course, have the dubious honor of watching this man perform live. we may or may not have tipped him. :D

seriously though, it was the middle of winter (jan-feb) and absolutely freezing, and the dude still just had his undies, long hair, and guitar, nothing else. (besides the mob of 100 girls trying to get to him)

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PEDRO HIT SET

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5 year old thread on 2p2 got bumped the other day. here is the OP:

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Good drunken debate from a few nights ago.

The question: How many 5 year-olds could you take on at once?

The specifics:

- You are in an enclosed area, roughly the size of a basketball court. There are no foreign objects.
- You are not allowed to touch a wall.
- When you are knocked unconscious, you lose. When they are all knocked unconscious, they lose. Once a kid is knocked unconscious, that kid is "out."
- I (or someone else intent on seeing to it you fail) get to choose the kids from a pool that is twice the size of your magic number. The pool will be 50/50 in terms of gender and will have no discernable abnormalities in terms of demographics, other than they are all healthy Americans.
- The kids receive one day of training from hand-to-hand combat experts who will train them specifically to team up to take down one adult. You will receive one hour of "counter-tactics" training.
- There is no protective padding for any combatant other than the standard-issue cup.
* The kids are motivated enough to not get scared, regardless of the bloodshed. Even the very last one will give it his/her best to take you down.

I set my magic number at 30, but upon reflection, I think I could take on a few more. How many could you take on?

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What say you FTR? How many could you take?

Note: The specific rules in this case are such that the number should be considerably lower than the generic, "how many 5 year olds could you take?"

My take: I won't comment on myself directly but many of the responses in the thread seemed extremely high. For example, 30 seems too high for the average internet warrior. Answers that I saw ranged from high singled digits to hundreds.

Thoughts?

the cup gives us a huge advantage.

i'm only 5'9", buck fifty, i would set my line around 20. the trick would be to not let them gang up on you and try to take out 2-3 at a time. a 5 year old is about 3'6" and 45 pounds. one punch or kick to the head would almost certainly render them "out" or almost out. and i would be much faster than them. maybe even more than 20, i don't think 30 is too high for an average.

sure would be fun!


edit - granted the 5 year olds picked would be above average in size, but that doesn't do much.

'bout a thousand

YouTube - 30 hornets vs. 30,000 bees

It's an endurance test in disguise.

gmmbb is low balling himself. 20 would be pretty easy for the average man. There's not much that 5 year olds can do. They are light and slow, they can't jump, they can't climb, they're not that coordinated, they can't think quickly. You're not going to get "ganged up on" unless you're dead tired and on hands and knees. The only thing they will be able to do is run up to you flailing or trying to grab at most like 5 at a time as long as you're active. Virtually any body movement of a grown man will send them flying

It boils down to your gas tank. The real question, IMO, is would you rather be Dominick Cruz or Alistair Overeem. Both top tier fighters, the former at the highest end of endurance, the latter at the highest end of size and strength

I would kill none as I honor the serenity of all things. As we have nothing to fight over, we shall not fight.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ossCM-vPYF...255B1%255D.jpg

So, what I'm getting out of this thread is:

Hornets are assholes?

More on 5 year olds

I think most men will overestimate how tough the 5 year olds are, but underestimate how quickly they'll start breaking bones e.g. knuckles, elbows, etc on the kids skulls. A shitload of foreheads gonna be punched, and bones will start breaking very quickly, even on the first punch. I have very strong bones, but I've broken my knuckles twice just by punching a not-so-movable hard object with about 70% force, and the punches were well-aligned and all

Having said that, the 5 year olds are simply not going to be able to crowd you. In many ways they'll just be moving weight, and I would suspect quite a bit of friendly fire. Their best weapons would be a charging head ram, as that would actually do some damage, but it would also have them smashing into each other. Or maybe a better strategy would just be clinging on to legs and biting. Either way, kids don't have much power at all, and the only way they win is after you're no longer able to continue. They couldn't do things like drag you down or push you over because they don't have the coordination, reaction, strength, etc in order to focus energies and simply not get in each others ways

I'm 5'8" 240, in bad shape relative to what I could be, but in substantially better shape than the average 240 pounder. I'd probably put the number of 5 year olds I could beat up at maybe 100. If in optimal shape, maybe 150. The broken bones thing would become suuuuuch a bitch, and as endurance begins to drop off, it would start to plummet. The problem is that I don't know what level of intensity I would need to perform at. If it was actually high, then I have overestimated everything, but if I could get away with performing at like 60% then over a 100 would be piece of cake


A much better question IMO is could you kill a pit bull? I think I could. It would be the fight of my life, I would expect to possibly lose a limb later in the hospital, but I could do it. A bigger challenge would be a kangal or a cheetah. Now that's a question

An even better one is how many grown men would it take to kill a full grown male Bengal tiger? I dunno, I wanna say upwards of like 200, but possibly even a 1000 couldn't do it

15 years in the martial arts and I had a class of almost 50 kids under 10, could have taken them all out without even a sweat so I doubt a number under 100 would be even close. That said, the only way a 5 year old would even want to fight or stay in a fight would require some sort of enhancer or hormone, and to see a 5 year old that doesn't want to do something when a teacher or nurse tries to hold them down when they are enraged is a different animal.

The dog is a tough call, it's like trying to disarm someone, it's all about luck. If you make the right move, or grab the right spot it will be easy, but slip up and it's going to be a different tight.

the "how many 5 year olds" scenario is so awesome, I love asking people this. IRL people are normally taken a back, and possibly offended, but most eventually play along. Once they hear the idea, whether offended or not, they can't help but to explore it.

Anyways, I'm super skinny, and I think I could take on 80-100. I think many people are ignoring that it's an enclosed space about the size of a basketball court and that you can't touch the walls. I really think the range for all able bodied men would be pretty acute. The limiting factor is not so much your endurance or strength, but instead the size of the space. Without the "no touching the wall" rule, I think the number jumps quite a bit. Oddly though, I think a very large room with walls would be preferable to a wall free limitless space. Walls clearly work in the singular opponent's favor rather than the group opponent.

As for strategy, I would think that, because of the "no touching the wall" rule, staying as close to the center of the room would be ideal, with the converse being true if there were not a "no touching the wall" rule. For offense, body blows would be preferable to head shots, since the ribs are mostly cartilage and a torso punch or kick from a grown man to a 5 year old would probably do just as much damage as a head shot. Also, grabbing a kid by the ankles and flinging him into a group would probably be a very successful tactic at the beginning of the fight because it would preserve the durability of your fists and legs while dealing maximum damage.

p.s. if I was a billionaire, I'd def invest heavily in virtual reality in the hopes that a holodeck would be invented during my life time so I could run this scenario.

I think everyone here is WAY off as how many kids it would take. 20? 50? 100? Seriously? They are five years old with ONE day of training. Assuming these kids aren't drugged and/or psychos, I'm pretty sure that I could control upwards of 500+ of these kids. Think about it. Adult = authority figure, check. Adult starts murdering five-year-old kids. Check. How many of these kids are going to want to fight me after they see 10-20 get destroyed?

I may have missed it, but unless you're putting cyborg crazy/psycho kids with me, I think I've got this. Even then I think 100 is shooting low unless they have a ridiculously awesome teacher that teaches them how to fight like Romans.

EDIT: Put me in a room with 500+ kids like my own, and I crumble. Little dude has reflux and gas like you wouldn't believe, mommy and daddy are not sleeping well!

Instead of answering for me I'm going to answer for average internet warrior (AIW for short). AIW represents what a typical 2p2 posting in the thread might approximately be. Here's the profile:

- adult male in early 20's
- 5'9 165lb, on the skinny-fat side (certainly >20% BF)
- little to no experience in fighting or mixed martial arts, likely does not know how to throw a proper punch, much less any other strike
- goes to school or works an office/computer type job, certainly not manual labor. trolls 2p2 and watches porn in his free time.
- weak and out of shape by any athletic standpoint but there's nothing about his physique or endurance that would stand out in general society.
- AIW, as per the rules, has a cup which helps significantly, although it doesn't make the area invulnerable.

here's the profile for ANT, of which there will be many:

- ANT is between 5 years, 0 days and 5 years, 364 days old.
- is or is what appears to be in the top 50% of fighters among a random selection (excluding cripples) for his/her age group. i'd expect this group to mostly be boys, even at the prepubescent age.
- has received one day of specialty training. this shouldn't be completely written off. surely they will receive specialty ways to attack one adult which may include biting, scratching, clawing, going for the legs, etc.
- the kids are motivated regardless of the bloodshed. i take this to mean that they are fighting to the death as well as a group of 5 year olds could understand it.

the arena is the size of a basketball court and in the thread as i understand it, the combatants are scattered randomly at the start of the fight. this, coupled with our inability to touch any walls, effectively means that we WILL be swarmed and there's not a lot we can do about it.


earlier i made the comment that essentially said that 30 ANTs would take down 1 AIW. I stand by that. Here are a couple observations/predictions/comments that I want to make:

- as wufwugy correctly pointed out, AIW's endurance is going to be a huge factor. As a former wrestler, I can say that most people have no idea how long a 2 minute round is for an untrained person. AIW might literally be exhausted after a minute fighting with dozens of ANTs. I'll admit that I don't know enough about the adrenaline system, but it isn't going to last us through the fight.

- a common theme i have seen is something like, 1 hit, 1 kill, or something to that effect. I don't buy it. Our average internet warrior likely has little skill or experience in this department, ANTs skulls are extremely hard, and they are motivated enough to keep fighting despite pain and bloodshed. i doubt AIW scores many 1 hit knockous, except perhaps at the beginning when fresh and not swarmed.

- ANTs' strategy is probably something to the effect of, swarm AIW, kick scratch, claw, and BITE at the lower body, bring AIW to the ground. Once AIW is to the ground ANTs are the heavy favorite. ANTs win at a lower number than expected because they have the will and energy and endurance.

- if I'm AIW, I would go the power route and wear my heaviest, hardest steeled toed boots. however, i assume something like this is outlawed and we'll say AIW is wearing normal tennis shoes. I really think AIW gets his legs wrapped easier than we realize and AIW is going to have a hard time throwing consistently debilitating punches. the strong-side elbow might be the ace in the hole. (it will be such close quarters that it should typically preferable to a punch).


I'm going to set the line at 25 for AIW. Honestly I'm only going that high because it seems that I'm at the extreme low end of estimates that I'm probably overestimating how strong ANTs are (and believe me, I'm not giving them much credit. They are freaking 5).

edit: bolded the profiles since someone will inevitably miss something important about one of my assumptions

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Originally Posted by jyms

15 years in the martial arts and I had a class of almost 50 kids under 10, could have taken them all out without even a sweat so I doubt a number under 100 would be even close. That said, the only way a 5 year old would even want to fight or stay in a fight would require some sort of enhancer or hormone, and to see a 5 year old that doesn't want to do something when a teacher or nurse tries to hold them down when they are enraged is a different animal.

The dog is a tough call, it's like trying to disarm someone, it's all about luck. If you make the right move, or grab the right spot it will be easy, but slip up and it's going to be a different tight.

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you are the type that i would put the number much, much higher (you're a big dude, plus 15 years in MA).

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Originally Posted by boost

the "how many 5 year olds" scenario is so awesome, I love asking people this. IRL people are normally taken a back, and possibly offended, but most eventually play along. Once they hear the idea, whether offended or not, they can't help but to explore it.

Anyways, I'm super skinny, and I think I could take on 80-100. I think many people are ignoring that it's an enclosed space about the size of a basketball court and that you can't touch the walls. I really think the range for all able bodied men would be pretty acute. The limiting factor is not so much your endurance or strength, but instead the size of the space. Without the "no touching the wall" rule, I think the number jumps quite a bit. Oddly though, I think a very large room with walls would be preferable to a wall free limitless space. Walls clearly work in the singular opponent's favor rather than the group opponent.

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I'm not sure that I follow here. I'd much rather have wall free limitless space as the lone fighter here. Kiting ftw

beyond that, in limited space, I'd rather be able to use the wall than not, so we agree there.

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I think everyone here is WAY off as how many kids it would take. 20? 50? 100? Seriously? They are five years old with ONE day of training. Assuming these kids aren't drugged and/or psychos, I'm pretty sure that I could control upwards of 500+ of these kids. Think about it. Adult = authority figure, check. Adult starts murdering five-year-old kids. Check. How many of these kids are going to want to fight me after they see 10-20 get destroyed?

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Dangit UG, read the assumptions

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I may have missed it, but unless you're putting cyborg crazy/psycho kids with me, I think I've got this. Even then I think 100 is shooting low unless they have a ridiculously awesome teacher that teaches them how to fight like Romans.

EDIT: Put me in a room with 500+ kids like my own, and I crumble. Little dude has reflux and gas like you wouldn't believe, mommy and daddy are not sleeping well!

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while i'm not confident in my 25-for-AIW line, i am confident in this: 500 dedicated top 50% five-year olds would epically destroy you

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* The kids are motivated enough to not get scared, regardless of the bloodshed. Even the very last one will give it his/her best to take you down.

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fuck I missed that assumption

so are we dealing with cyborgs/psychos or real five-year-old kids? that changes things I guess. fuck.

still going with 100+, maybe not 500+ now

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Originally Posted by Lukie

while i'm not confident in my 25 line, i am confident in this: 500 dedicated top 50% five-year olds would epically destroy you

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This made me laugh. I'm thinking of instead of those bumper stickers that are like "my kid is an honor student" I wanna see one that says "my five-year old is in the top 50%"

Oh and you should know that UG doesn't read details now that he has a little bundle of joy

<3 bundles of joy

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A much better question IMO is could you kill a pit bull? I think I could. It would be the fight of my life, I would expect to possibly lose a limb later in the hospital, but I could do it. A bigger challenge would be a kangal or a cheetah. Now that's a question

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hmmm, you'd be heavy underdog vs a pit bull and wuf over the cheetah would be the upset of the century

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An even better one is how many grown men would it take to kill a full grown male Bengal tiger? I dunno, I wanna say upwards of like 200, but possibly even a 1000 couldn't do it

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no idea lol

meh I feel like if there 100 of them in the basketball court with you you're just gonna end up running round in circles till you get tired and they swarm you and you suffocate or get crushed or whatever. there's just not enough time to dispatch them individually before they're so thick around you that you can't send them flying any more because there's tens more behind the front ones pushing them forwards.

fwiw I play around with my brother in law's king doberman, but if he were to actually attack me, he would crush my arm in one bite. I can't imagine how I would win the fight. maybe 2 hands to the neck with all my strength, definitely a long shot.

or back up and foot stomp

Honestly, I think that AIW would tire himself out much more quickly than he should. He'll do things like pick them up and throw them or drop heavy punches when in reality he should probably use a lot of knee strikes at mild capacity. Keeping a decent moving pace while kneeing any as they get in front of you. The last thing you wanna do is start wrestling them. There's a reason why boxing matches are several times longer than wrestling matches

Get somebody who trains Muay Thai and the number is going to blow up. He'll have endurance and understand how to deliver knee strikes at low enough intensity to keep it up for a very long time. Elbows are good, but they're going to be pretty tiring as they will require a lot more torso movement and expenditure than expected since the kids are so short. Kicks are not going to work well because they will kill balance and unless you train them you wont have accuracy. Even if you do train them you would have to put too much power behind them in order to get enough speed to cover the long distance so as to not miss the spazzing child, and that will tire you out extremely fast

Knees are the pound for pound strongest strike possible WRT energy expenditure and power output. I don't know this for a fact, but that's my guess based on some observation. Maybe something like a hook is better against an adult, but not against short kids and what all that means.

how awesome would it be to grab one by the ankles and discuss toss that mother fucker? spin around 3-4 times and let him go. sure, not optimal, but absolutely necessary. and yeah, after the discussion i definitely think i i lowballed the number too.

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hmmm, you'd be heavy underdog vs a pit bull

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I'm not sure about that. A big reason I chose pit bull is because they're smaller. They are the greatest game dog ever bred, but one primary reason for that is a particular leverage they have against other dogs. An 80 pound pit can down a 150 pound kangal because the kangal's throat is at the right level. Against a human, however, I think a pit bull would be a bit easier than a kangal simply due to weight advantage.

Probably the way you'd wanna beat a dog is to make sure his attacks are not on your throat, get him off his feet, and jam your fingers through his brain by way of eye sockets. Or maybe fist-down-throat type of thing. Killing a dog like a pit with fist strikes or an arm choke is a pipe dream.

But a dog kills you by getting your throat, and they have only one mode of attack. They are very fast, but also they're not bred to go for the kill on humans that well. Most likely, a dog will latch onto your arm, and that will allow you to work other areas. Granted, the amount of force in tug and shake coming from a game dog like a pit or rottie will be surprisingly huge, but I think I could protect my vitals and get him off his feet. Whatever limb the dog gets at is fucked though. After the dog is off his feet, just put weight on his neck and he's fucked. Dogs are not physically capable of getting off their side without neck rotation. So just trapping the neck on the ground will take away most of what its got

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and wuf over the cheetah would be the upset of the century

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For sure. I chose cheetah because they're smaller than you'd think, don't have striking capacity in their claws the degree other cats do, and they're built for speed to such a degree that they're not nearly as tough as other cats in a "wrestling" match.

In order to even have a chance, I would have to be in peak shape and have ample training with how to actually kill that kind of game though. Some people have killed leopards and I think lions bare-handed. So it is possible, but they know what they're doing too

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no idea lol

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I wouldn't be surprised if a 500 pound tiger has enough in him to kill humans for 36 hours straight. Those things can drag gaur hundreds of feet, kill elephants, and wrestle-fuck grizzlies. One swipe of the paw across the face at 5-10% power and a grown man is done for.

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Originally Posted by Lukie

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hmmm, you'd be heavy underdog vs a pit bull and wuf over the cheetah would be the upset of the century


no idea lol

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quoting myself here. i have no idea where to start in regards to wuf vs pit bull. can someone point me in the right direction?

i'm convinced in tiger vs hundreds of humans.

i'm somewhat convinced in wuf vs pit bull, although end result very well could be death to both without medical treatment afterwards.

wuf vs cheetah, no way :D

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Originally Posted by kiwiMark

meh I feel like if there 100 of them in the basketball court with you you're just gonna end up running round in circles till you get tired and they swarm you and you suffocate or get crushed or whatever. there's just not enough time to dispatch them individually before they're so thick around you that you can't send them flying any more because there's tens more behind the front ones pushing them forwards.

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They'd be tripping over and piling all over themselves.

A five year old can't hurt you by hitting you, can't break skin with the teeth that easily or at all, can't climb, is slow, is weak, all that stuff. Play it right and most of them will be in each others' way while you dispatch them one by one. After one trips, ten more follow

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A cheetah would be pretty epic, but they're not like the other cats. Most grown men will survive a cougar attack, but that's far different than a death match. Leopards will just rage kill you in no time, lions and tigers much easier than that.

I'm not saying I'd be even close to a favorite, but I think there might be something to be said about a top 1% heavyweight human fighter vs a cheetah. Most of what I think is unknown though. Things like I do know that their claws are quite duller than normal cat claws, but they might still be sharp enough to bleed you out in no time. Also, they're a very specific and unique species that isn't that adaptable to new things. For example, you can dump a leopard almost anywhere and it will survive, but dump a cheetah in most places and it will die. The population has bottlenecked recently, and their super speed has hurt them in many other ways

One thing to keep in mind about dogs is that they have huge strengths and huge weaknesses, and they're mostly pack killers. A dog will never get tired, it's incredibly strong when it has planted feet and a directed posture, but it can't claw and it can't wrestle for shit. Even if it's got a death grip on your arm, you have a free hand to grab one of his legs and wrench it out of sync with his spine. If you do that to a cat he's just gonna say "homey don't play that game" and twist around and fuck you up, but a dog's power is mostly in his ability to keep his spine and limbs all planted and all working together. They can't do much other than tug from one position and shake from two positions (albeit the power in those positions is incredible), and I don't think the bite force is enough to tear off an arm

I think they should make a super offensive video game about this topic

I don't see how anyone using the logic for 100+ 5year olds vs a human can think it would take 200 men vs a tiger

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A five year old...can't break skin with the teeth that easily or at all

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Not true. Little kids have very sharp teeth as they haven't been worn down from many years of use. What they lack in power they have in incisiveness.

What nationality are these kids? I can take more French or British kids than American kids, ldo, simply due to a lower centre of gravity on the part of the USA. But the American kids would have nothing on, say, Malaysian kids - it would be like the difference between little pugs and velociraptors.

To take a dog like a pit bull you basically have to be willing to get bit. You feed him your weaker arm and hope he goes for it. When he does, you need to get on top of him with your body weight then choke him out or gouge his eyes out with your free arm. Your other one will likely get broken or crushed but it will heal.

I was afraid I'd have to fight one at the dog park a few weeks ago. It went after my jack russel. First it shook my dog in it's mouth, he had her by the scruff of the neck. Then he went back after her while she was lying on the ground a little stunned. But before he got his jaw on my dog that's when I managed to get there and boot him super hard in the ribs before he managed to clamp down. I expected to get fucked up but I was lucky as it just yelped and rolled onto it's back going submissive. If it chose to fight though I know I was going to be in world of hurt.

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I'm not sure that I follow here. I'd much rather have wall free limitless space as the lone fighter here. Kiting ftw

beyond that, in limited space, I'd rather be able to use the wall than not, so we agree there.

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Well I think kiting along the wall in a very large room would be best. Always having something to prop you up in case of temporary exhaustion would be crucial I think. I have a feeling that if you go down and don't bounce right back up, you'll be done as they will just pile on you. Aside from being able to prop you up, a wall also eliminates 180° of vulnerability. Even if surrounded by a mob, with your back it'd be much easier to break free.


Also, I get super tilted by people who participate in these and ignore the stipulations. No, you cannot take on 500 or 1000 of them. 500+ 5 year olds would barely fit in a basketball court, they would be jam packed. Your ankles would be gnawed through in a matter of minutes.

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rofl, the giggle is gold

it's a fucking dog Gala, jesus no way I could have that much attachment to a pet to get fucked up by a Pit Bull

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rofl, the giggle is gold

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damn, video removed

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Originally Posted by bigspenda73

it's a fucking dog Gala, jesus no way I could have that much attachment to a pet to get fucked up by a Pit Bull

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you obv have never had a pet

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damn, video removed

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^^^^^ Who's the old guy with outrageous tastes in women?

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I know this one. Larry King!

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