I was wrong, jkds played last game.
Why do I feel like I'm building a case against myself?
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Inb4 I'm accused of spilling my subconcious thoughts into the game thread
I'm looking at you, ong
Wah? No, I was a shit wolf with baudib and kami, and the village practically sweeped.
New page, missed that you saw your mistake
BID what you think of rilla? Im still rereading, but Im really liking both him and ong as wolves.
Here's my #5secondhottakes on the new players
Beck – Contributing at a steady pace and asking solvey questions. Our third game together, He looks as good here as I’ve ever seen him. Villa
Dsaxton - MIA
Hifi – Decent start tone wise, leaning V
Kami – Could go either way. Either she’s pissed at drawing wolf again or pissed that she can’t self-vote
ShipItUp – peeked v N0
TheBrokenATM – hasn’t done anything yet that shows me he’s villa.
TopTierTom – very likely V. Active, engaged, thinking deeply.
@Luco: BrokenATM made this post thing about trying to get Kami to self-vote kill herself, then was like "shhh, dont tell her". That seems way more like a fun villager than a wolf deciding to be silly. (173). Agree with Tom
How confident are you with beck?
I had to go back to read his posts just now because I couldn't remember anything he posted.
He isn't impressing me this game but I don't know if it's role-indicative or if my standards of rilla are too high. I mean, almost all of his posts are short one sentence posts with not much in them. But nothing wolfy stands out. Whereas some posts are villagery.
So if I had to pick, I'd say villager. There's certainly more village posts than wolfy (0) ones.
@luco: maybe, i havent played with batm before, but wolfing involves lots of pressure and doing something like that (like if it succeeded) would create a lot of heat.
@BID: Im trying to figure out if he was super soul ready Rilla because hes just really good at reading baudib, you, and eevee (that shot coulda been random) or if he is just being lame now because hes wolf. Im up to 436 now, and hes not being how he was before and I'd feel like he'd feel invincible after 2 great villa games.
I agree with all of this except for the kami part.
Kami reminds me so much of bigred in that neither contribute in a significant way. Take the last game with kami for example. She did squat the entire time. She was a wolf that game but otoh I don't recall playing with her when she was a villager. I get the impression her input would be similar.
Add Rascal, Boog, and BR to the villa list. Aubrey is near confirmed villa.
Nah you misunderstand. I mean that if rilla rolled villa again, he'd be going for the hat trick and feel invincible. But if he rolled wolf, I think his confidence would change significantly.
Wolves: I'm clearly not a poisoner so don't nom me.
i'm willing to give jkds a day 1 pass. theres so many players. that excuse buys him exactly 1 day.
obv we cant give that to everyone but this one has some context
because you mentioned vig instead of poisoner?:
thats a decent deflection you make but i'm not giving you points for it since you included it as part of a joke. the "hahaha" part makes me question the intentions of the preceding sentence. sames goes for people who, contrary to normal posting behavior, add LOL out of nowhere
the "hahaha" increases the chances he was planning a fake future defense. (i know you guys probably have a better term for what im trying to say)
if it was legit slip saying "vig" i think its much more likely there is no "hahaha"
but it could mean he is actually the poisoner
JKDS in my villa leans
Whats the deal with Tom and Beck?
Ok this is like the third time drew has pinged me now. The early swing for inactives, the making shit up(tm) in his fight with ong, and now this weird soft defence of rilla. All mixed in with some very villagery posts though.
Is he really now. How likely is he to post something goofy as a wolf that would draw a ton of attention to him?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rascal
luco and jkds, i agree
I'm getting deja vu again
jkds last time we did this, you and I were V and the person I thought you were clearing light was also V, so in deference to that I'm gonna drop this discussion for now
I dont see your point. A risky post is a risky post, regardless of what attention it actually draws. Whether or not I bring it up now doesnt mean it doesnt garner attention tomorrow. Or the next day. Or the next day. Wolves dont want to do that. But if hes like ong, which rascal suggests, then maybe he does make such a post as a wolf.
So with Ong
He tunnels, and when he tunnels the points he makes tend to be ridiculous. Hes done that against baudib in the past, and hes done that against me. Its entirely possible hes just stuck on BID because BID is wrong and isnt normally wrong on him. That same logic has been used by ong to go after me when it was v-v. So this is totally possible.
These people I'm still working out, everyone else I like as villager for one reason or another.
Ong
Rilla
Beck Novo
Dsaxton
Hifi
Kami
MadMojoMonkey
NightGizmo
ShipItUp
SuperMonkeyFace
Wufwugy
@Tom/Beck: Idk why you guys are sheeping each other this game, maybe you've already soul read eachother. W/e. Aubrey's a villager though, and the reason is because of her post 416 where she asks MMM what his name is. Thats not fluff, and it shows genuine wolf hunting. She aint a wolf.
wtf are cheeba chews, I want.
I started scanning the posts because nearly three pages. I see jkds is swinging for me already. Pretty sure last time we were v-v we misread one another.
As for why I didn't see something in a game I modded... I am more likely to read posts carefully when I'm playing, rather than modding. I scan for votes when I'm modding. I'm not hunting wolves.
JKDS, it's not that he didn't vote for me. It's that he voted for the person I started a wagon on while claiming I'm a wolf. That's my problem. I've made this clear multiple times.
Why is aubrey conf villager jkds? I don't like in her first post that she strongly assumes kami is a villager, and then later votes her.
gabe seems like his normal self, dunno why people are on his case for being out of sorts. gabe always has a weird tone to his posts, especially on d1.
I feel like we're letting drew get away with a wolf slip because people seem to think that drew is capable of making wolf pov slips as villager.
I still can't see how that comment of his comes from a villager.
YOU CAN COUNT ON THE HOOPMAN TO COUNT BITCHES!
Kami 4 (Wufwugy, TheBrokenATM, aubreymcfate, NightGizmo)
BankItDrew 2 (Hifi, OngBonga)
Aubrey 2 (Beck, Top Tier Tom)
TopTierTom 2 (Kami, ShipItUp)
Wufwugy 1 (Rilla)
Ongbonga 1 (BankItDrew)
not voting: Dsaxton, MadMojoMonkey, Super Monkey Face, lilrascal, Gabe, Luco, Boog, Bigred, JKDS
15 hours 22 minutes remain.
If you spot something wrong with the vote count let me know.
aubrey
d1 rilla lynch is reckless imo. I can't see that happening, don't feel it should happen, and feel that luco should know this and as such his voted is wasted.
There's no angel, there's every chance he's playing like this because he doesn't want to get nommed n1.
rilla is playing like he typically does as a wolf. He also knows the difference between his wolf game and his villager game. So if he is a wolf, why isn't he doing something about it? This is what is bugging me with rilla. I can't see him doing this again as a wolf.
Lynch BID
You didn't do anything to convince me I'm wrong about my read on you. I read you correctly last time you wolfed.
Heading off to work now. I'll try and check in at lunch, see you this evening, I bowl tonight so I won't be around a lot this evening.
30% of me wants to spite lynch kami. The rest wants to lynch bid.
i think bid looks wolfy but what's our d2 approach if he's a v? If he's a wolf? That's one reason I don't like a kami lunch. The result doesn't give us much in my opinion.
In what sense
He's a relatively new player who is getting better at the game fast and I respect the way his brain works because he sees things that I think "good" players see
We've played one game together except I was a wolf
Reading him villager here pretty strongly
I'm still not understanding why people think Drew is a wolf. Ong fell the hell off right after Drew got at him.
You hearing me Ong? Where you at. If you're a villager: be bold. Be fearless. Post something new. You're stuck in your same positions from 24 hours ago.
Something new? Like what? I see two good reasons why drew is a wolf. Do I need more to justify my vote?
I fell right off when he hit me? Did I? Why don't you take a look at how long it took him to respond to the sig thing? Who fell off?
Lilrascal beck and wuf all looking villagery
So sassy
going through p1 again, there's only kami's hifi vote that stands out to me really. tom and hifi look good, everyone else null.
p2, rascal enters and takes a swing at luco. beck joins us with a wall of analysis, feels good. gizmo joins talking about vote format, defends wuf, points the finger at kami, votes for her shortly after. drew does his ong is a wolf vote kami thing. jkds dives straight in with a vote for tom, and then some blah about not rushing into d2. rilla's opening two posts lack any kind of enthusiasm.
So far, feeling good about hifi, tom, mojo and beck. drew remains my prime suspect, with rilla gizmo jkds kami pinging for one reason or another.
p3, batm enters a bit spazzy and votes for kami. luco accuses kami of playing against her wincon, still pings hard. Now drew and I start throwing shit at each other. tom sheeps drew. monkey joins, excuses himself for another day.
p4, gizmo starting to look better. rilla moves into second gear, but it doesn't feel particularly enthusiastic.
I'll read the rest in an hour or so.
tl;dr -
villagers - hifi, tom, mojo, beck
wolfy - drew, rilla, luco
less wolfy - batm, jkds, kami
null - everyone else
What?
Asking a player what their IRL name is genuine wolf hunting? And once she finds out that his name is in fact not Tom, what would she do with that information? Does that make him a wolf? Or a villager? I think you're making up an excuse on her behalf and it does not look good on you. How can you honestly assume that she's an obvious villager based upon only two to three mediocre posts?
And I'm not sheeping Tom. I respect his play and believe he's a villager, but every vote of mine has been supported by original reasoning of my own. It just so happens to be that we're on a similar wavelength.
tuesdays are busy for me so i won't be around much until like an hour or so before EOD, maybe i'll poke my head in just after lunch but no promises
Oh right, jkds thinks aubrey is a villager because she asked mojo's IRL name? Do me a favour. JKDS isn't bad enough to think that what he's doing there is effectively hunting villagers. I call bullshit.
ProbablyNotAWolf is subbing in for DSaxton
Please don't talk about substitutions.
Grrrrrrrr...
Thats pretty cool
Luco is curious, he wants to figure it out
Ong wants to figure it out
Kami dont care
Tom wants to figure it out
Woah, Beck is on the offensive, and doesnt care at all
Now ong is on board too.
This is really interesting. Its the same spot as when a PR outs and people either wait and see what happens or immediately get suspicious. Now I just gotta figure out whether wolves are more likely to hear me out or ignore and attack.
Regardless, heres why.
These are posts 407, 408, and 412.
I immediately wondered why the fuck TTT just called MMM Tom. I dont know MMM's name, I dont think TTT and MMM have ever talked to each other outside this thread, and MMM didnt say his name in this thread. So how's he know his name?
Aubrey thought this too. Its the kind of paranoid thought that villagers have.
Lets pretend she was a wolf instead and also somehow saw and made this connection. This little line isnt how it'd go down. Instead, we'd get more along the lines of "OMG, how you know his name is tom, /lynch". Instead, we see her trying to figure out whats going on.
Shes villa.
JKDS, I'll follow your lead on aubs and agree with you.
Who do you find wolfy?
Rilla and ong so far. Rilla mostly, but I was kinda hoping he'd post some before I woke up. I got a whole list of players I have no clue about though and need to reread specifically them.
Yeah ok I'm buying that explanation from jkds.
Can you elaborate on your wolf read on me please so I can duly remind you that you have failed to correctly read me as villager when I'm villager since I can't remember.
Villas(in no particular order):
Hifi
TTTom
MMMonkey
beck
gabe
ong
BATM
Wolfy:
aubrey
jkds
monkey
kami
I think kami is totally in her wolf range but I wouldn't be shocked if she flips villager.
I think aubrey first post saying there is a wolf on the kami wagon is super wolfy. I think its weird she's pushing those people without even saying anything regarding Kami's alignment. Then later when she call kami villa, if kami actualy flips villa I really think this is a TMI slip. I think aubrey can be a wolf in the world where kami is a villa and in the world where kami is a wolf.
I peeked BATM
I only have 5 posts because of restrictions, I will be following the thread and I will expand upon my reads throughout the day
lynch aubrey
Vote count
Kami 4 (Wufwugy, TheBrokenATM, aubreymcfate, NightGizmo)
Aubrey 3 (Beck, Top Tier Tom, ProbablyNotAWolf)
BankItDrew 2 (Hifi, OngBonga)
TopTierTom 2 (Kami, ShipItUp)
Wufwugy 1 (Rilla)
Ongbonga 1 (BankItDrew)
not voting: MadMojoMonkey, Super Monkey Face, lilrascal, Gabe, Luco, Boog, Bigred, JKDS
9 hours 44 mins to EOD
let me know if you spot any mistakes
Baudib, your vote count is off. Luco voted for rilla as his first post. Kami recently voted for Aubrey. Rascal recently voted for drew.
other than that it was correct? oops
Otherwise looks good, yes.
Vote count
Kami 4 (Wufwugy, TheBrokenATM, aubreymcfate, NightGizmo)
Aubreymcfate 4 (Beck, Top Tier Tom, ProbablyNotAWolf, Kami)
BankItDrew 2 (Hifi, OngBonga, lilrascal)
TopTierTom 1 (ShipItUp)
Wufwugy 1 (Rilla)
Ongbonga 1 (BankItDrew)
a500lbgorilla 1 (Luco)
not voting: MadMojoMonkey, Super Monkey Face, Gabe, Boog, Bigred, JKDS
hifi- I think she was generally excited to play this game with dwatson and I read that as villagy. I think her early posts were good but she has fallen off since then.
Tom- I think he is the person who is trying to figure out the game the most and I have him as my top villa. You could say he is my top tier villa(HAR HAR HAR)
Ong- I like his posts, i think he is being game-solvey
MMMonkey- I really liked his opening where he was analysing hifi's opening. I thought he was really trying to figure out her alignment so he got the villa read.
Beck- I think beck is my number 2 villa. I like his reads and I like where he has put his votes.
Gabe- probably my thinnest of villa reads
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Kami- I hated kami plopping a vote on hifi. Her interactions since then and her willingness to aggressively read the thread as little as possible put her in my wolf list.
supermonkeyface(listed as monkey in first wolf list)- I hated how he plopped in yesterday saying he is going to be afk until today. Then he came back last night saying it was an interesting read, to which I think he meant the thread, but hasnt posted any of his thoughts.
Aubrey- I stated already where i'm at with her.
Shipitup- He is also on my wolf list, i think his vote on tom is terrible because I think tom is actually contributing to the game.
jkds- I disliked his opening and nothing he's done since then has made me want to flip this read
lynch supermonkeyface feels like a good placeholder
something is up with BID
I like the new guy and certainly agree with his village reads, although gabe remains null for me.
The aubrey vote is solid and is much more compelling than jkds' reason for thinking she's a villager. I do like jkds' post though, at the very least he's convinced me that he's looking for villagers.
I'm happy with aubrey or drew lynch. I prefer drew, his flip will do more for me, so I'm happy where I am for now.
As for finishing my read up, I'm playing poker. Cry about it.
http://i.imgur.com/zfpV0O9.gif
Spoiler:Helena is Ukrainian, but whatever
Why is BID not on the top of everyone's wolf list? These two quotes have my spidey sense tingling. BID has been consistently inconsistent (from about page 6 onwards).
Lynch BID
For the record, TTT is on the tippity top of my villager list with JKDS at a further second.