WEREWOLF MULLIGAN

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Originally Posted by Instant Aces

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Originally Posted by Keith_MM

so is that convo still stuck on facebook or whatever and an address we can look it up on.Notthat I'm suspicious but that conversation could have just been made up and typed out.Give us a link where we check it and it will back you up.

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Isn't this outside the rules of the game since you wouldn't be able to look at PMs? I'd be all up for it but I want a confirmation from someone first.

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it would of happened in fb pm's, so no one else on fb can see, and screenshots of things like "know your role" where trip tells you whats going on is forbidden iirc.

my plane's about to land, yay delta wifi, so i'll be back to check this later

i'm not sure on the suspects list but we still have that gator problem!

If anybody else is still suspicious, a screencapture of the Facebook message thread seems like a pretty solid way to prove his innocence conclusively, if posted within a short enough period of time. (It's not exactly hard work for you, yaawn, and that way you can get everyone off your back 100%).

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Originally Posted by kiwiMark

If anybody else is still suspicious, a screencapture of the Facebook message thread seems like a pretty solid way to prove his innocence conclusively, if posted within a short enough period of time. (It's not exactly hard work for you, yaawn, and that way you can get everyone off your back 100%).

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Originally Posted by triptothehizzay

You must have 50 posts in order to participate in Werewolf

Do not copy/paste or screen shot/post PMs I send you.

Strategy - Some questions to ask yourself

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plus this really kills the fun

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Originally Posted by GatorJH

and honestly I have had PM's get stuck in my inbox before.

grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr - now what?

lynch rilla? Warpe? Bigred?

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Or gator.

wow wtf is going on

rescind yaawn

time to go out, may drunk post some strat later I'm sure that will clarify the situation for you all.

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Originally Posted by kiwiMark

If anybody else is still suspicious, a screencapture of the Facebook message thread seems like a pretty solid way to prove his innocence conclusively, if posted within a short enough period of time. (It's not exactly hard work for you, yaawn, and that way you can get everyone off your back 100%).

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Dude it's against the rules ?

rescind IA, lynch Penneywize for now. I'm not liking it as much anymore though, because Penneywize's posts today seem pretty convincing to me.

Who could be an alpha zombie and decide that it would be fun to NOT recruit rilla, spenda, or Warpe, instead trying to recruit others and outplay them? I agree with Warpe that the quiet ones might make for better bandwagon candidates, and it's curious that we've tried to get some steam behind badgers a few times with no results.

Also, I guess rilla could be a zombie, but I really don't like where that leaves us.

Posted before I realised there was a new page and read JKDS's message ldo.

That said, it seems even a copy/paste has b0rked the rules, but whatevers.

damnit, badgers

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Originally Posted by JKDS

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Originally Posted by kiwiMark

If anybody else is still suspicious, a screencapture of the Facebook message thread seems like a pretty solid way to prove his innocence conclusively, if posted within a short enough period of time. (It's not exactly hard work for you, yaawn, and that way you can get everyone off your back 100%).

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Originally Posted by triptothehizzay

You must have 50 posts in order to participate in Werewolf

Do not copy/paste or screen shot/post PMs I send you.

Strategy - Some questions to ask yourself

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plus this really kills the fun

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Should I delete my post? >< You idiots told me confirm timeline so if I get snap lynched it's all your fault for being so hasty. Kthx

actually, the timeline itself may be...but i think theres enough doubt concerning it that its not a big deal.

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Originally Posted by Instant Aces

Should I delete my post? >< You idiots told me confirm timeline so if I get snap lynched it's all your fault for being so hasty. Kthx

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i didnt actually read that rule until the question of images came up :(

i feel like such a dumbass.

Since anyone can type up a timeline and make up stuff like this, it seems like fair game to me. Screenshots are a much different matter IMO.

Hey guys, sorry I haven't been posting, my mom got rushed to the hospital for emergency surgery yesterday morning and I've been there or sleeping all day yesterday and today. I'll try to be as active as I can, but I can't promise much for the next day or so.

Lol yaawn. I PEGGED YOU IMO! Knew you were teh seer all along imo. :)

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Originally Posted by XxStacksxX

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Originally Posted by WillburForce

so lynch IAces

if this ain't correct we gotta start looking at the likes of Warpe/rilla etc

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this

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"this" makes no effin sense.

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Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla

damnit, badgers

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my thoughts exactly. he's one of my hiding in the weeds candidates.

this game tilts me hard

Seriously, after today's events - don't lynch me. This day has been fail-tacular enough as it is.

I still like a badgers lynch. Want me to repost the dachshund pic?

JKDS and DD - rescind your votes plz. I expect better from you now based on the information we have at hand.

Badgers, TLR, dranger - way too quiet imo. Excuses are excuses; but if you're going to make one, at least correct the issue by posting more when you are able to. Don't go quiet for days on end.


'rilla I saw you mentioned you were looking forward to my defense, so I'll type up more if you'd like to hear it, but it will have to come in about ~5 hours or so.

A key thing to consider is that we now have an entirely new village dynamic. For the first time we will have real - if entirely temporal - information to work off of. So far we know that boog was a villager on night 2, and Spenda and IA are the only confirmed villagers.

IA - I know that you have a hard-on for lynching me today. If, with the village's cooperation, I survive this day, I would suggest you forgo looking me up tonight. We need to find a wolf, and a wolf I am not. Put your trust in me and I will deliver.

Defense post coming later...

I tried getting a CBC lynch going before jumping on the IA train. I could do a Penney lynch as well but need to look through his posts first.

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Originally Posted by XTR1000

this game tilts me hard

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Shit, you're in this game?

bigred, badgers or gator anyone? No great reasons but I'm seeing a lot of probable villagers posting and these are the guys I have no idea about.

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Originally Posted by GatorJH

I tried getting a CBC lynch going before jumping on the IA train. I could do a Penney lynch as well but need to look through his posts first.

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You can't and will not.

Add XTR1k to that list of "no idea about."

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Originally Posted by Penneywize

JKDS and DD - rescind your votes plz. I expect better from you now based on the information we have at hand.

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im not rescinding my vote for you.

for now im sticking with warpe, I am also confident that lynching badgers will make the village happy.

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Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla

Warpe, we can't just lynch the quiet ones because we need to get the alpha and two quiet ones are now active and fighting for their lives.

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If you or I were the alpha we'd be active b/c that's how we usually play, but I doubt we'd be quite as active as usual b/c we'd not want to draw too much attention to ourselves so we'd find a happy medium. But that's us.

I have my doubts that the alpha is one of the active players right now...could be, but there's so many players it's easier for him to keep a low profile as spenda usually does regardless of role. My gut is on a low profile player that's posting the bare minimum for the alpha...bigred, badgers, ???... They don't seem too concerned with posting or even staying up to date other than to check in once in a while to see if it's night yet...

Like I said before, lynching a low profile is good default play for us. If they're not contributing then they are not giving us any information and are just raw convert meat for the zombies anyway.

I'm going with lynch badgers.

Warpe has me sold for villager, but I cant be sure he wasnt recruited last night. He would have been a pretty good target since I was obviously gonna be a lynch target again and I freely defend him a lot. And if I get lynched as a villager, that clears him.

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Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla

Add XTR1k to that list of "no idea about."

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Agree, although if it's not completely obvious to everybody that I'm a villager yet then I've gotta put people voting for me on my zombie suspect list.

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Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla

Warpe has me sold for villager, but I cant be sure he wasnt recruited last night. He would have been a pretty good target since I was obviously gonna be a lynch target again and I freely defend him a lot. And if I get lynched as a villager, that clears him.

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not really. conversion changes the game every day.

What do you guys think of the Angel protecting the Seer? The Seer is basically useless for growing a list of confirmed villagers in this game, but will help us eliminate alpha suspects. Only trouble is it exposes the Angel.

Anyway, my vote is in. Taking my lady out for our anniversary dinner. l8tr.

angel should def protect the seer. The wolves are going to convert every night, and if the alpha recruits the seer they both explode.

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Originally Posted by JKDS

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Originally Posted by Penneywize

JKDS and DD - rescind your votes plz. I expect better from you now based on the information we have at hand.

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im not rescinding my vote for you.

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but don't you remember the cold war game...? that was good times, no?

At any rate - I'm off for the next while. If any of you have any concerns about me you'd like to have addressed, elucidate them now and I will get to them upon my return.

Otherwise I will be covering, for the most part, DD's original post against me, and whatever other miscellaneous bs reasoning I see fit.

And yeah. I'll be in an advanced stats course so don't go thinking I am using this time to 'build my argument' or whatever. I have nothing to hide hurr.

Oh yeah. And for the sake of symmetry:

http://images.cheezburger.com/comple...1071471066.jpg

lynch badgers

Anyway can we look at the ppl who bandwagoned on me? Pretty sure most of the wws had to be on there since they would of put a nail in my coffin asap since getting to another night phase would put them soo far ahead.

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Originally Posted by Instant Aces

Anyway can we look at the ppl who bandwagoned on me? Pretty sure most of the wws had to be on there since they would of put a nail in my coffin asap since getting to another night phase would put them soo far ahead.

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Bro. You had been flailing around quite a bit; it is entirely reasonable that the vast majority of those who voted for you were just villagers following the best hunch they had. Optimal alpha strat is to lay back and let the village lynch another.

And to save myself the effort later - I did join your BW after it had already gotten started - just as I said I would ahead of time. Page 10 I think.

Back later.

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Originally Posted by Warpe

Only trouble is it exposes the Angel.

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Angel - May protect one (including yourself) villager at night, this villager cannot be converted to a zombie or killed during the select night phase. Cannot be converted. If Alpha Zombie attempts to convert both will die.

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Wouldnt this work out in our favour? I think the angel should probably protect the seer. And Im torn between the seer alpha hunting, or confirming rilla/warpe and then alpha hunting. I still cant shake the feeling we are being levelled pretty hard, and if it means we have some solid trustworthy leadership it could be worth checking, even if it just means we can trust what theyve said so far.

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Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla

angel should def protect the seer. The wolves are going to convert every night, and if the alpha recruits the seer they both explode.

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I think you meant if the Alpha recruits the angel they both explode (I looked this up just to verify) which confirms with me that the angel should protect the seer. With all of the posting that has happened to date if the angel and alpha both die we should be able to piece together the rest of the puzzle pretty quickly.

As for who to lynch after Warpe's latest posts he is officially off of my wolf list. Rilla is still on the periphery but I am getting more and more comfortable with him as well.

I definitely agree with Warpe that the Alpha is laying as low as possible without laying low enough to draw too much attention to that. XTR and Bigred definitely fit those molds and I would lean toward Bigred because XTR has been quieter and I don't think the Alpha would take THAT big of a risk.

I am off to happy hour, but will check in again later with more analysis.

lynch badgers

JKDS
DD
Stax
Willbur
GatorJH
Keith
Penneywize
SDM
BooG690
Warpe
Badgers

Gator Rescinds
Keith Rescinds
Penney Rescinds
Warpe Rescinds
Rilla Lynchs?(An attempt to get the BW going again?)
Rilla Rescinds

I'm rly not that suspicious of rilla but Iunno maybe there's something to him
hopping on the bw.

JKDS rescinds
JKDS lynchs

Gator lynches/rescinds(irrelevent because he didn't get a chance to see my most important post)
JKDS rescinds
badgers rescinds
DD rescinds

Just posting this now so people can get a look at it. I'm going to try and come up with some type of analysis. Also I'd like to point out flomo hasn't posted anything since I made a claim that he could be a possible alpha(just trying to get him to talk or w/e). I don't know if this has any bearing on what we should do tonight or not.

And I would fully support a bigred lynch.

rescind warpe, hang badgers

InstantAces, you idiot!

Gator is a zombie exactly 0% of the time at this point in the game and keith is probably a zombie like never. JKDS wanted to see me good reasons not to lynch so I doubt(?) he's a zombie either. Also penney and SDM both post b2b lynch IA's. I don't know if this means they were congregating and figured that all my posts meant I'm possibly some important role and that they knew at this point so they wanted to try and end the day asap.

SDM has also been wayyyyy quieter then past games and he still hasn't posted a defense since I asked(he did post a lynch IA). For this reason I'm liking a SDM lynch...

So right now I'm liking a SDM, penney, badgers or possibly a flomo(?) lynch.

I'm actually really doubting flomo now even though he's become really quiet because he didn't hop on the bw...

Messages to InstantAces did get stuck somehow:

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/623/sstrixy.jpg

I was going to address this with an admin after the game.

THE RULES STICKY SAYS DO NOT COPY PASTE OR SCREENSHOT ANY PMs I GIVE YOU. DON'T DO IT!



I should just kill you off, but you are a n00b and the circumstances were a bit odd. InstantAces is THE SEER. Sorry wolves!

well thats settled at least

Whew I was scurred !

Um... Penneywise is officially an inconsiderate retarded fuck, and I'm barely keeping myself off his bw (for now) just for those reasons. My fucking mother is in the hospital, so I stop posting, and THAT makes me suspicious? PRETTY SURE I was more active than 95% of the village yesterday, and because I've "mysteriously" gone quiet makes me "wolfish?" Are you fucking kidding me? Sorry that you just happen to skip over my post explaining my absence. That's really cool dude. I think we have a Penneywise problem...

Trip's boldtalics turns me on.

You know what, screw it.

Lynch Penneywise soley on the basis of being an ass.

so it looks as though IAces is the seer then...

recind Iaces.

Lynch BAdgers

I admitted when I posted my theory that it was a shot in the dark. After Penney's posts today, I don't think he is a zombie anymore. rescind Penneywize

I think it makes a lot more sense for the zombies to be hiding in the group of quiet players. Badgers, XTR, flomo, WillburForce, CBC, bigred, TLR, etc. There have to be some wolves in there.

GatorJH seems like a villager to me. If Warpe was a villager yesterday, I really doubt that the zombies would recruit him after all the heat he got yesterday.

So, um.... lynch TLR seems like a decent start?

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Originally Posted by DoanDiggy

I admitted when I posted my theory that it was a shot in the dark. After Penney's posts today, I don't think he is a zombie anymore. rescind Penneywize

I think it makes a lot more sense for the zombies to be hiding in the group of quiet players. Badgers, XTR, flomo, WillburForce, CBC, bigred, TLR, etc. There have to be some wolves in there.

GatorJH seems like a villager to me. If Warpe was a villager yesterday, I really doubt that the zombies would recruit him after all the heat he got yesterday.

So, um.... lynch TLR seems like a decent start?

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Gator is definately a villager considering he rescinded so fast(Would be kind of stupid for a WW to be the first to rescind w/ 1 vote to lynch me)

Rescind whoever I voted for last

I'm not sure who I want to go after first. I'm still rly suspicious of SDM and Penney. I think we should figure out who we think is the most likely to be the alpha before we lynch someone.

My entire WW world has come crashing down these past 2 pages. I am now pretty convinced that Rilla and Warpe are villagers. The IA situation getting cleared up is an awesome thing for the village (but seriously.. How fucking suspicious can one seer act?).

I am all for a TLR, CBC, Penney, or BigRed lynch.

Also, I think Gator is very likely a villager. As well as JKDS to some extent.

Regarding the Angel protecting the seer... Yes obviously.

Regarding Pelion's post of whether IA should be alpha hunting or checking into some of the vets... Remember there are no "confirmed" villagers. So clearing say Rilla tonight, then having IA tell everyone he is a villager is not going to help us another night from now. So imo, def look into the players that are the most suspicious. If you snag a wolf, let us know, so we can string him up as fast as possible.

Bitch...I'm a confirmed villager. And how is it that I get back from doing all these errands and we're up to 14 pages? This is why it's difficult for me to go back and read all these posts. Maybe that's why I make a shitty WW player. :(

StillDeadMoney-Went quiet, definately wolfy(hopped on the bw near the end)
bigred-Quiet(didn't hop on the bw however)
BooG690-Confirmed villager as of night 2, could of been converted. He's been really quiet
badgers-Wolfy(11th BW vote)
JKDS-Villager IMO(First to vote for me but long b4 the BW really got moving)
a500lbgorilla-I'm not sure about rilla but I'm leaning towards villager
GatorJH-Definately a villager IMO(1st to rescind)
XxStacksxX-Wolfy
Keith_MM-Very likely to be a villager also(2nd to rescind)
TLR-Wolfy
dranger7070-Tried to start BWs on me early in the game so Iunno
bigspenda73-Confirmed Villager
WillburForce-bw'd me
chrisBCritter-Wolfy(But he didn't jump on my BW)
Warpe-Doubt he got converted last night so unless he was a wolf b4 night 3 then villager
Penneywize-Wolfy(3rd to rescind but at this point the bw has lost it's roll so he definately could still be a wolf)
Flomo-Wolfy(Didn't bw me)
XTR1000-Wolfy(Didn't bw me)
kiwiMark-Seems like a villager to me(Didn't hop on my BW)
DoanDiggy-Don't know what to think of DD yet
InstantAces-Seer
Pelion-Where the eff is this guy?(wolfy)

So potential wolves ranked are:
1.badgers
2.Penneywize
3.SDM
4.Willbur

and then we have stax,tlr,xtr,cbc,pelion(I'd put all these in a group

DD,rilla and warpe(The least likely to be wolves out of the potential wolves IMO)

Okay so I think we should list any of the 4 I listed as primary suspects. Does this list look good to u guys or am I missing something?

Lynch one of the 4 I listed as primaries***

dear lord! i hope you have some tom foolery in that post.

why do you keep putting out stuff for the wolves to work with for winning?

where the hell is spenda?
he is going to be pissed.

i just noticed that sdm posted in the other thread in this forum but not in here.

i'm going to stick with my initial vote for now.

oh yeah Rescind IA

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Originally Posted by flomo

dear lord! i hope you have some tom foolery in that post.

why do you keep putting out stuff for the wolves to work with for winning?

where the hell is spenda?
he is going to be pissed.

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Cuz I'm smarter then the wolves ;)

I'm not really quiet so much as WW is not complimentary towards my one liners (as gator would put it). I'd also go with SDM but I'll follow everyone's lead

lynch badgers

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right now IA is confirmed as seer I'm going to have to explain my actions regarding his lynching.

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my initial suspicion post was on page 3 when we had 2 wolves and Dawolfdiggy had posted that he was playing differently .Using DDs penney SDM theory DD wouldn't have been a wolf . Looking at the rules on page one unless we lynch alpha now alpha gets to recruit before Vig can shoot.

How about a variation on IA's suggestion. We lynch DD and if he's a wolf we shoot IA and if DD's a villager Vig shoots one of penney or SDM.

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I'm pretty sure DD is a villager.

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Now the language rilla used here made me suspicious that he was in fact the seer and had looked up DD and was leaving a clue in case he was lynched.
then he said penney and IA were "golden picks"...again had he looked them up so I swapped onto the IA train.when he came out I rescinded to get info but at that stage 1 more vote would have caused the lynch. Why didn't the wolves finish this off? was it because they were already on the BW.

going back to my DD alpha theory , theres no way that he would be last on the BW if he's the alpha .
my main suspects at the moment are Dawolfdoggy, rilla , penney,SDM and wilbur and TBadgers.

gonna stay consistent and lynch dawolfdoggy again and if he's a wolf i'd lynch rilla or badgers next.

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Originally Posted by XxStacksxX

Regarding Pelion's post of whether IA should be alpha hunting or checking into some of the vets... Remember there are no "confirmed" villagers. So clearing say Rilla tonight, then having IA tell everyone he is a villager is not going to help us another night from now.

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Yeah thats why im torn. It would be pretty handy knowing if we can trust what theyve said so far though... Although im not really sure if its worth it.

lol don't lynch me

I'm a villager imo

srsly


wpuld a ww be silnt for that long facing imminent death? I think not especially not alpha. I am villager imo

loldrunk badgers shall be lynched :)

I just looked through Badger's posts and I don't think he is a zombie because he has been tooo quiet. It has been proven that being too quiet is not good for a wolf. I think we should look at those who are posting a tad more than Badgers. Lemme look through things one more time and I will post my thoughts.

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Originally Posted by GatorJH

I just looked through Badger's posts and I don't think he is a zombie because he has been tooo quiet. It has been proven that being too quiet is not good for a wolf. I think we should look at those who are posting a tad more than Badgers. Lemme look through things one more time and I will post my thoughts.

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I'm up for lynching any of the 4 I listed

exactly

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Originally Posted by dranger7070

Um... Penneywise is officially an inconsiderate retarded fuck, and I'm barely keeping myself off his bw (for now) just for those reasons. My fucking mother is in the hospital, so I stop posting, and THAT makes me suspicious? PRETTY SURE I was more active than 95% of the village yesterday, and because I've "mysteriously" gone quiet makes me "wolfish?" Are you fucking kidding me? Sorry that you just happen to skip over my post explaining my absence. That's really cool dude. I think we have a Penneywise problem...

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holy cow dude... my apologies. I don't care if you want to lynch me, just understand that I must have skipped over your reason for being absent, I was referring specifically to Badgers when I mentioned something along the lines of 'OK to be quiet and give a reason, but at least be more active etc'. He had posted to say he was binge-ing a few days back and then hadn't come back to say anything.

Looking back over the posts I can see that mine came a short time after yours, and I included your name, so you can't be blamed for thinking that. Believe me, I dunno what kind of sick bastard would value a game over the health of a family member, so my post was absolutely not referring to you as such. And sorry in case I offended. really dude. I feel like a fucking dick right now heh.

The only one we have in common for top 3 is SDM and I currently have him 3rd after skimming through the thread a couple of times.

My top 3 are as follows:

KiwiMark (take a look at his posts and tell me they aren't wolfish)
XTR1K
SDM

IA,Spenda, Rilla and Warpe - Take a look at the above 3 and let me know your thoughts. I could certainly get on board with someone else but am REALLY leaning toward a lynch kiwimark right now.

Aw don't be that way.

I love Werewolf.

First game: "SDM is talking a lot! Classic noob wolf mistake. He also joins at the end of bandwagons. LYNCH HIM!"
Second game: "SDM is still posting for some reason. LYNCH HIM!"
This game: "SDM is not posting all that much. Must be a wolf. LYNCH HIM!"

Rescind Instant Aces

Yes, I'm following the mob and I'm trying to blend in. Like rilla said earlier in the thread, I play to win, not to win any popularity contests.

Then again, part of me wants to get recruited because the wolves are on the brink of passing the point where their numbers are high enough to easily coast to victory, even if the village manages to kill off the alpha.

Alright, as promised, my long-awaited DoanDiggyDefense post. And yeah DD I realize you posted earlier that you're not thinking I'm a wolf anymore, but, better to get this all out in the open sooner rather than later.

words incoming

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Originally Posted by Penneywize

Hey if we're giving the entire ww game a mulligan SDM deserves one too, he was pretty much our MVP last game other than JKDS amirite

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Originally Posted by DoanDiggy

Would make a lot of sense if he was planning to recruit SDM. Then again, it makes sense regardless since they're friends.

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I believe I have covered this before - basically, given the events of our previous game, SDM had a high risk of being lynched during the first few days. It just seems a little basic and weak-minded to begin defending a potential night 1 recruit, when it's plainly obvious that an alpha would not want to recruit someone he's already quite openly diverting suspicion from.

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Originally Posted by bigred

comon this is taking foreverrrrrr

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just pick ur recruitment target and we good

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Originally Posted by DoanDiggy

That was the 2nd-to-last post before Night 1 ended, about 1:15 before lolzzz' post. Weak timing tell?

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I believe I've made allusions to my knowledge of Warpe's soulread game, as well as timing tells in general... I'm not exactly sure how I'd play this as a wolf - there is a clear leveling opportunity here "well they can't think I'm a wolf if I just post carelessly during the night". But I think you'll agree, especially given the nature of the post, that it smacks more of an unconcerned villager than anything else.

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Originally Posted by Penneywize

So here's my thinking on alpha wear-wolfs

And yeah, I'm aware that vocalizing this strat may or may not defeat the purpose of it..

Let's start out by weeding out the tougher players who could potentially strengthen our adversaries.

The upside to this is as follows:

1) if our alpha selected a vet, which is probably more likely than the selection of a less experienced player, our chances of hanging a wolf are better than average;

2) if our alpha sees this deliberate strategy, he is less likely to select a vet, which works out in the village's favour

Sorry if this all sounds familiar, I pretty much set out the same strat in the last ww heh.

So, with all this in mind, I'd be up to lynch any of the following:

JKDS
Bode
Warpe
rilla
GatorJH (qualifies as a vet by now imo)

thoughts?

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Originally Posted by Penneywize

bleh

I should probably note that I intentionally left spenda off that list, after last game's events would he rly be recrooted first? I think that..... no.

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Originally Posted by DoanDiggy

These two posts are awesome because they totally steer the village. It fits perfectly if he recruited spenda or SDM on the first night. Note that he didn't actually suggest a lynch, but a few posts later jumped on the first suggestion (JKDS, by BooG).

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I could probably make the argument that any time a villager posts his thinking on other player's actions or lynch strategy, he is "steering" the village in a similar manner. A few posts ago, Gator listed 3 players as suspicious and singled out Kiwimark as his lynch target. Is that an attempt to steer the village? I would say yes, but that doesn't imply anything about Gator necessarily. Nor would it anyone under those circumstances.

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yeah, I get where you're comin from, and yes my reasons are thus far very level 1. Don't take this to mean that I'm not capable of anything deeper than that though.

What we've got to work from is as follow**s:

Someone was randomly picked to be the alpha, and the alpha selected someone to join the zombie side. With this as the only information we have, I think lynching a vet on day 1 is our best option, for the reasons I stated.

I don't want to lynch a vet on day 2 and 3 and 4. I am working on the assumption that by then, we will have more info to work off; maybe our seer will look someone up, maybe a wolf will blow his cover.

basically - we can't realistically hope to get a wolf on day 1, as we might in classic WW. Therefore, the next best solution is to pick a vet to hang because our chances are better than average (I am assuming this), and we preclude the possibility of that vet joining the wolves for now.

If you have some better strat to follow, for day 1 I mean, I'd definitely entertain other possibilities..

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This post just seems very.... I don't know, careful? to me. Also, if he's the alpha it seems to pave the way for him to recruit vets in the next couple of days ("I don't want to lynch a vet on day 2 and 3 and 4"? WTF? After he just gave solid reasoning for lynching one on day 1?)

He had another uninteresting post that I'll skip, then this one:

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I'm not sure why this would come off as sounding 'careful' as you put it, essentially all I did was construct my rationale for a vet lynching on day 1. Still seems pretty good to me. Wouldn't it be kinda nice if we had one of Warpe or 'Rilla out of the way right now? heh

The bit about not lynching a vet on the next 3 night was based on the assumption that we would have better information to go on than the "lets lynch someone because they would be dangerous later on" mindset. I thought this was implied in my post. Guess I should have been clearer

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Warpe --

Only thing I'm eager about is to execute a day 1 strat that makes sense. If you're getting wolf vibes from me then you're way off, old man. Try again imo. If you're not sure about me, look up my prior performance in the cold war thread; I think this should shed light on my playstyle. I'm not the "under the radar" type.

Granted I would play this way if I were a wolf as well. But take my word for it, k? I want to lynch a vet today because, at this juncture, it's the best we can do for the village.

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This post seems uninteresting to me except for "you're way off, old man." and "But take my word for it, k?" I don't know if that really means anything, but it does stand out to me. I remember someone (last game?) saying that when someone tries to inject humor into their posts it can indicate a wolf.

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I think that is a pretty vast generalization and probably doesn't hold a lot of water. Some people write humourously, others don't. I actually don't find anything funny about what I wrote there anyway tbh :/

Other than that, seems I was pretty straightforward with my reasoning there.

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Originally Posted by Instant Aces

I'm suspicious of a few people atm but making this day so short is only gonna benefit the wolves, we need some more discussion before we go off lynching people a couple hours after a day starts...

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rare noob insight?

We've got another 30 or so hours, let's make use of it.

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Seemingly pointless post. Makes a lot of sense if Penney and IA are both zombies?

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Well I guess we can toss that one out, huh?

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lynch the pennies!!!

He'd be my first recruit, and he sounds really wolfy.

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I'm honoured?

No I am not a wolf but thanks for playing...

Badgers has been uber quiet; in previous games, as a villager, he was a constant regular contributor, actually producing useful analysis on most days. This time around? Quiet as hell, not trying to get in the way of other BWs and avoiding suspicion.

As for bigred. Yeah. He's kinda tough to get a read on isn't he? heh. As of now, I don't have any strong enough vibes to merit a lynch. I am still of the opinion that he would not be terribly dangerous as a wolf. Skip for now.

Instant Aces / Kiwi Mark - All I can say is that I would not be picking either of these guys to recruit if I had any pull in the matter. Maybe in a few WW games. For now, they're wet behind the ears and liable to make noob mistakes in the mid-to-end game.

Bode - write moar plx?

Anyhow, for now I am liking a badgers lynch. Time to wake up, bud.

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Wow, makes a lot of sense if IA is a zombie. It also instantly deflects a bandwagon from him onto someone that already has a bandwagon going. "I don't have any strong enough vibes..."? Seriously?

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Again, doesn't really apply because we know IA's the seer.

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I'm not feeling a rilla lynch guys. Again, you guys should be going over previous games before deciding someone sounds "wolfish". Hunches are for idiots imo. If you're going to say someone sounds wolfish, quote the text they wrote that made you feel that way or at least cite some of their behaviour that worries you.

Anyhow, obv I'm sticking with a badger lynch for now, but I'm increasingly suspicious of bode. It may soon be time to set a fire under him.

As for rilla, we can string him up tomorrow after our zombies start to think he's evaded all suspicion. ;)

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"Hunches are for idiots imo." It's hilarious after he just said something about his "vibes" in his last post. Also, he seems to steer us towards a rilla lynch on day 3.

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Covered this earlier - the short version is, that I was referring to "hunches" that were posted with little to no reasoning to justify them.

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Hi

SDM and I play in the same hockey league. Sometimes he gets in on a home game I play in.

Are y'all done being retarded yet. This was cleared with lolzzz prior to the game, so, really, myofb. Which of you are IRC regulars again? I won't be addressing this further.

Anyhow, I've caught up on the more meaningful discussion in this thread, and I find badgers' excuse for his inactivity strangely convincing. So I'll rescind badgers. His aching brain / liver will punish him adequately enough for now.

As for Warpe, 'rilla and bode.

I'm not going to pretend to be sharp enough to figure out what angle Warpe is playing, but until I see more (namely, the results of tonight's lynch, for starters), I am not ready to string him up.

My opinion on 'rilla has been stated before; up until recently, his behaviour and general demeanor in this thread had led me in the direction of him not being a wolf. However, he went out on a limb and requested that our angel protect him tonight. I am severely tilted by this for obvious reasons.

Would a villager really ask for this if he was just a villager? Wouldn't a wolf want to do this to assert his supposed villagerhood?

At any rate, I am willing to wait and see tonight's lynch result before pressing any further inquiry in 'rilla's direction.

Which brings us to bode. lynch bode.

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That is, he didn't see a need to post until there was some heat on he and SDM, which would obviously be bad if they're both friends. Otherwise the post seems to be that of a villager. If you read closely, though, he avoids really making any meaningful accusations or points. Maybe he's just trying hard to seem like a villager? It kind of seems like he's doing his best to give "fake" insight.

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I guess that's more of an indictment of my rationale in that post than anything else. Pretty solid / straightforward overall though, imo. Given the information at hand, it's a fairly reasonable thought process.

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I'm a little distressed that bode's not all "Arooooooooo mother fuckers" after the vote was clinched. Tomorrow should be interesting.

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Can we get a lock and / or count going on here pls.

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Would a villager have any reason to make the first post? The 2nd post is like, "GOGOGO night! I'm bored with this long day."

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1: Yes, a villager that's a little distressed that bode didn't confess his wolfness after the vote was clinched. People do that every now and then.

2: I asked this because if the vote in fact hadn't been clinched - there was a little uncertainty as to the count - I probably would have rescinded, given the new information. Not necessarily to prelude bode's chances of being lynched, but at least to buy time and allow everyone the opportunity to consider what had just happened. It seems we could have made a better decision there.

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On Day 3, SDM comes in with an insta-"lynch rilla" which totally makes sense if he's one of Penney's minions {ETC - this was covered}

His posting today confuses me a bit. He's kind of all over the place, but the thing that actually sticks out to me the most is that he's willing to accept the fact that I'm a villager without much resistance at all. He's even willing to follow my advice? I can understand rilla and JKDS and others trusting their wolfdar enough to be confident that I'm not a villager, but Penney doing it just seems to me like he has more information than your average villager.

In the end this is still something of a shot in the dark, but it's the best I could come up with. I'm interested in hearing opinions, but for now I'm pretty happy with a lynch Penneywize bandwagon.

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Well. I think you've read in to things a bit too much if you thought, based on my post, that I had you as a confirmed villager and was willing to blindly follow your advice. IIRC, 'rilla tossed up the challenge for you to come up with something, and I had posted shortly thereafter. I didn't want to hijack that challenge, so I was going to wait and listen to what you had to say.

The badgers lynch choice was, and possibly still is, a fairly decent one. Compared to the competing rationale on other suspects, it seemed to have at least a marginally better foundation to it.

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Alright. As for what's going on right now. I am still going to stick with my pick of badgers. Since when can a three line post totally derail a bandwagon? From what I've seen, it seems that those who wake up after a few lynch votes and post exceedingly short defenses with little rationale turn out to be wolves, with a surprising degree of frequency.

These types of defenses are twofold: the posts themselves tend to explain their absences; their brevity and unassuming nature paint a picture of a villager without worries, calmly knowing that they are in no real danger.

I am pretty much going to stick with this until I see a better thought process to follow.

Any thoughts.

Any thoughts.

TLDR

Some random thoughts from skimming through most of the info

1. 'rilla and Wrape are either both villagers or both wolves that are leveling us big time, I tend to think they are villagers for now
2. Angel should protect the seer for now, since the seer identity is known we need to discuss not only who should be lynched but also who should be looked up by the seer, the decision is of IA of course but we should give him input to work with
3. SDM is indeed very quiet, given his performance in previous games I would be surprised if he is recruited so he may be the alpha
4. Something do not sit right with me about Keith's posts, can't really put my finger on it
5. Flomo seems wolfy to me, havent played enough with him to compare it to past games, XTR also seems kind of wolfy
6. Spenda is probably a prime candidate for wolves recruit right now, is has been very quiet and has been confirmed as a villager so far
7. CBC is usually quiet at early stages of the game so I am not reading his non posts as a strong sign of zombizm

My thoughts:
lynch SDM

Seer lookup list:
Flomo, XTR, Wrape/rilla

my post had 4 lines

zombies can't count

jesus, badgers is getting derailed again, there´s very little chance he actually is a villager. Lynch him ffs or DD

dd?

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Some random thoughts from skimming through most of the info

1. 'rilla and Wrape are either both villagers or both wolves that are leveling us big time, I tend to think they are villagers for now

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2. Angel should protect the seer for now, since the seer identity is known we need to discuss not only who should be lynched but also who should be looked up by the seer, the decision is of IA of course but we should give him input to work with

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Disagree, IA should decide who to look up else it gives alpha a clear run at a succesful recruit. Alpha acts before seer

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3. SDM is indeed very quiet, given his performance in previous games I would be surprised if he is recruited so he may be the alpha

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Agree , he's been too quiet

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4. Something do not sit right with me about Keith's posts, can't really put my finger on it

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I'm playing this the same way that I did in all my other villager games I still can't believe dawolfdoggy is avoiding any more heat since his early wolves den comment. If he's looked up at least and comes back a wolf we have a 50:50 chance of getting the alpha because of the timing of that comment.Also rescinded as soon as IA came out to help prevent a wolf railroad on him whilst we considered whether it was desperation or true.

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5. Flomo seems wolfy to me, havent played enough with him to compare it to past games, XTR also seems kind of wolfy

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only thing against flomo being recruited would be how rapidly he got outed before.

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6. Spenda and boog is probably a prime candidate for wolves recruit right now, is has been very quiet and has been confirmed as a villager so far

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Agree, added boog as he's been relatively quiet and posted to say that he's going to tampa again so likely to remain quiet

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7. CBC is usually quiet at early stages of the game so I am not reading his non posts as a strong sign of zombizm

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Agree that he's usually quiet but that would make him an ideal candidate for a recruit , plus he's also had recent experience as a wolf which would be helpful to a noob Alpha, but not necessarily to experienced players

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My thoughts:
lynch SDM

Seer lookup list:
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my priority would be Dawolfdoggy. Now the angel has to protect IA , rilla and warpe become prime recruitment candidates if they haven't been recruited already. They have managed to steer the village the last couple of days and I'm wondering if we should be starting to think about how long the village can afford to keep them in the game.

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2. Angel should protect the seer for now, since the seer identity is known we need to discuss not only who should be lynched but also who should be looked up by the seer, the decision is of IA of course but we should give him input to work with

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Disagree, IA should decide who to look up else it gives alpha a clear run at a succesful recruit. Alpha acts before seer

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I said that IA should decide, however with 3 wolves already out there if there is a strong suspicion on someone IA should be aware of it and look him up, the benefit of identifying one of the wolves is much greater then the 1 in 20 chance of alpha recruiting the one the seer is looking up

fuck

instant aces was the seer but was recruited. That explains how his posts seem so genuine and so wolfy at the same time.

pure guesswork/speculation. Anyone agree?

badgers, you may be useless. Why would they recruit Instant Aces last night?

idk I haven't done all the research yet.

what if he was recruited on the first night?

here's a quick hint. When frantically searching to shift blame, don't go for the guy named the seer by the game admin. Today.

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idk I haven't done all the research yet.

what if he was recruited on the first night?

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Question to trip : what if the seer/vig is converted do they stop being a seer/vig and it shows on the inventory at the end of each day night phase as no seer/vig and an extra wolf or do they become a wolf version so that the seer can keep looking for special roles and vig can then keep villagers?

Btw, it seems like several people are high on Badgers and since he isn't THAT far off of my wolf list I can go that way as well.

what if.....

instant aces is the alpha and they've recruited the seer (but the seer isn't ia). There are so many possibilities and it's not just me who hasn't been convinced by the seer thingy.

jfc

Trip has announced and shown pm's saying IA is the seer.

Im sure that if he was recruited, it would no longer say that we had a seer. We should be past this

rescind penny i think

lynch badgers

Damiit maybe I should reed the threead first. I'm on my phone atm and can't really go through it properly but I'll take a look later...

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what if.....

instant aces is the alpha and they've recruited the seer (but the seer isn't ia). There are so many possibilities and it's not just me who hasn't been convinced by the seer thingy.

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IA is the seer. If the seer were recruited, the night phase would read "the village lost a seer, the werewolves gained a wolf"

WTF badgers. I don't know what kind of drugs you are on, but you really have no idea what's going on.

I was going to stick with my current SDM vote, but lynching badgers seems too profitable at this point.

FWIW, I'm suspicious nearly every game, that's just the nature of the game. That and I play bad.

We don't have time for morons

rescind fruitman (aka kiwimark)
lynch badgers

I just did a quick "glance" count and think we are at 11 or 12 for badgers. I have to go to a mtg and won't be back for a bit. Can someone confirm?

lynch badgers

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http://cdn3.knowyourmeme.com/i/12570...ng-rabbits.jpg

SDM's WPP: 519
this has to be a record.

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SDM's WPP: 519
this has to be a record.

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isnt wugwuffys like 10^9th or something?

WPP is bugged by posting images.

Sorry to disappoint.